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Zil, I know your not the type who gets jealous, but it seems like you better keep a close eye on the gator. Are these two women part of the tribe, or are they hidden extras?

Zil, I know your not the type who gets jealous, but it seems like you better keep a close eye on the gator. Are these two women part of the tribe, or are they hidden extras?

That sounds like the kind of thing that an LD Stalker would do.

I think I'd prefer Mormon Pub - you know, a place where friends gather to meet and talk.

Be careful my friend 2 Nephi 9:34

I wonder if Adam and Eve, or at least Eve, knew what posterity was and how to go about the process of making posterity. If they did know but hadn't yet started the process, then they had already disobeyed God's commandment to go forth and multiply, even before they broke the commandment not to eat the fruit. If they did not know what posterity was or how to go about creating it, then this would weaken the idea that Eve knew what she was doing when she partook of the fruit.

I haven't read all the posts, but I think the counsel President Uchtdorf gave his address during the Priesthood session of April General Conference may be relevant here A Society of Disposables I think another reason this tender scene has stayed with me for so long is the contrast to some of today’s attitudes. In so many societies around the world, everything seems to be disposable. As soon as something starts to break down or wear out—or even when we simply grow tired of it—we throw it out and replace it with an upgrade, something newer or shinier. We do this with cell phones, clothes, cars—and, tragically, even with relationships. While there may be value in decluttering our lives of material things we no longer need, when it comes to things of eternal importance—our marriages, our families, and our values—a mind-set of replacing the original in favor of the modern can bring profound remorse. https://www.lds.org/general-conference/2016/04/in-praise-of-those-who-save?lang=eng

I've known one or two females who could be considered as rather broad, and they would surely bristle if I ever mentioned that.

I'm fine thanks. I'm from Australia. Which mission did you serve in and when were you there? My nephew finished his mission in the Philippines earlier this year.

I haven't read all the posts, so what I am about to say here might have been said already. If you can recall what you were doing that led to you having the spiritual experience with the Book of Mormon and coming to feel that it is true: whatever led to that experience, do you think you could also do the same thing in relation beliefs about God and understanding His true nature?

Those who believe that women are somehow the lesser or the weaker sex because they first succumbed to temptation would do well to keep in mind that she was tempted by a male. (Pearl of Great Price | Moses 4:4 - 6) And he became Satan, yea, even the devil, the father of all lies, to deceive and to blind men, and to lead them captive at his will, even as many as would not hearken unto my voice. 5 And now the serpent was more subtle than any beast of the field which I, the Lord God, had made. 6 And Satan put it into the heart of the serpent, (for he had drawn away many after him,) and he sought also to beguile Eve, for he knew not the mind of God, wherefore he sought to destroy the world.

For some reason I can only log into the forum on this device. When I try to log in on my desktop and phone, it always says I am using the wrong password and doesn't et me in. Can you suggest what I should do about this please?

True - I served in the mid 80's and the temple was dedicated 2011 I think.

We had our honeymoon in our mission area, only four months after my wife finished her mission. Her last companion was still in my wife's last area when we passed through.

I missed out on the opportunity, but my wife and daughter attended the dedication. I thought you were from Northern Luzon?

I started my mission in the Philippines Cebu Mission but while I was serving, the mission was split and I finished my mission in the Philippines Cebu East mission, At that time, all the missions in the Philippines were classified as English speaking even though many of the people where I served could not easily understand English. I learnt little bits of several regional languages - Illongo, Cebuano and Wary Wary, but never mastered any of them, and almost nothing of the national language.

Thank you Jane, this makes things clearer to me in a way that I have not understood before.

I have no idea what a 4th cousin 7X removed is. What exactly does this mean? I'm not good at all on family history stuff and don't have a clear idea of what removed cousins are.

Gator are you developing a stutter?

I like to think that I'm a great physical body with a great spirit Would that it were true!

Thank you Jane. Your sign is noted and your reminder is appreciated,. I think new ideas and understanding can and sometimes should be generated by speculation, but such ideas and understandings are definitely not of the same quality or reliability as knowledge gained through revelation. It should always be remembered that the insights and understandings generated through speculation should be considered as ideas, and not as truth. although sometimes those ideas might be true and that the truth will always have a value higher than an idea.

I'm just suggesting that if we ignore the idea that nothing travels faster than light, (and there is reason to consider that God and other heavenly beings have found a way around that idea) then yes, its possible to see something that happened a long time ago. When you see something depends on where you are in relation to the observed event. And lets not overlook the possibility that Christ saw God's atonement, if there was such an atonement, on the heavenly equivalent of a DVD rather than as a live event. I'm not suggesting that either possibility is likely or unlikely, just possible.

Maureen Maureen you've raised an interesting question. In response, I offer a completely uninformed view based on speculation. Astronomers see events all the time that happened millions of years before they were born because it has taken millions of years from the light of the events they see to reach their eyes. We see something when the light of that event reaches our eyes, not when that event happened. You've also made me think of something I hadn't thought of before. Some interpreters of LDS theology claim that Christ's atonement covered all peoples, times, places and worlds that were, are and will be. This might or might not be true. But if it is true, such an atonement would completely obviate the need for any other atonement, including any possible atonement that might have previously been made by God in some other life. Or if God had previously made some sort of atonement, it must have been limited in scope, and in that sense, lesser than the atonement later made by His Son. So either: the atonement made by Christ does not cover all time and all places, or God the Father did not make an atonement, or God the Father's atonement, if there was one, was lesser than the atonement made by His Son, and therefore another atonement was needed or Some people, times, and places are covered by more than one atonement. I'm not sure which of the above possibilities are true or false, but they can't all be true.