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Didn't catch that at all-I deduce that the person who made that sign is a Baptist Teetotaler Republican.

Mommy! Goodness, she is just 2.5 - let her go knickerless- just make sure the drapes are shut and the doors are locked.

Yep Maureen, you are going to hell in a hand basket, right along with me- because I too, believe the same thing you do - - , only I would quantify it with 90%, not some. Some is too mere. 90% is more accurate. I am so sick and tired of the masturbation posts. For crying out loud -do a search, and spend the next 6 weeks reading all the previous posts and if you are still breathing, masturbating won't be a problem. Hey, how many of the post starters are around for more than 5 or 10 posts??? And for those who have cheated- you know you did wrong, Man up and admit it. OR Woman up and admit it. Heck, ADULT up and admit it. Again, do a search, and spend the next 6 weeks reading all the previous posts. (Echo) (dé·jà vu) How many of the post starters are around for more than 5 or 10 posts?? Maureen- Dahling - thank you so much for starting this Going To Hell thread- it is just what was needed. air kisses right (smooch-smooch)- air kisses left(smooch-smooch)

You are welcome. I first discovered this site, shortly after they started. They have added so much more than just the Standard works. Think I just may sign up for Ensign conference issue - yeah, I know that is at lds.org, but this is sent to me via my email.

I'm not overly fond of the on-line journal idea either. I bought a program for my computer. I downloaded it from the site, but also requested they send me the CD. It is Personal Historian; http://www.personalhistorian.com/I really like it. What sold me on it was that you could back it up to a CD, or flash drive or on-line.

Are you cheating? No, not at all. I find that I retain more when I hear, then when I read. I subscribe to an online service that sends me daily scripture readings. You can read them from your email, or go online to read or listen or both. I do both. For anyone who may be interested in this service - here is the link to their site: LDS SCRIPTURES | Read The Scriptures

Oh, okay. I still prefer putting in the freezer for several weeks.

The last one should really have had an equal (=) sign in front of it, just to make your post a bit more clear.

Why oh why can we not do Laugh and Thank You button at the same time?

She wasn't argumentative, it was as if I was saying oranges are apples, and she was saying No, they are apples. She is the least argumentative person I know. I don't attempt to convince really, I would rather prove. Like hand her a Book of Mormon with Mormon and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints highlighted in yellow on the inside pages. Or giving her a pass along card with Mormon.org either highlighted on the card, or handwritten on it.

Not all the time, and dry ice is hard to come by. Can't get it here in my county. Can in Corvallis- but you have to order ahead and they won't sell you small quantities. My HT/VT gave me a 5 gallon bucket of flour- they did the dry ice thing, and when I opened it, the weevils were alive and kicking, 4 inch layer on the top worth of wiggling, very much alive weevils. The entire bucket of flour got dumped because the weevils were so many and it smelled gross. That is why I put my 5 pound maximum bags of flour and un-ground wheat and grains in the freezer first, for a minimum of one month for that weight, then vacuum seal them to store in a cupboard.

They come in small - postcard size small - Mormonads - LDS On line Store and at $0.50 a set, free shipping in the US - they are a great buy. You could also get him a subscription to either the Era or the Ensign. A one year subscription is $8.00. You could save that as a Christmas or birthday gift. To Slamjet: Before you go to Deseret Book, check out lds.org on line store first. It is always cheaper and there is no shipping costs in the US, and I believe minimal shipping to other countries.

Sorry Dahlia, but they do come from the cardboard boxes and bags. They also love the glue in wallpaper, and in plywood. What I learned from the dude at the Home Extension dept at the county courthouse:To insure that your bags of flour are free of weevils. Put the bags in your freezer for 2 weeks per 3 pounds. I have a small freezer besides the freezer in my refrigerator. So I freeze my 3 lb. bags of flour for 2 weeks minimum, then I vacuum seal them and store in my cupboard. I transfer my bags of sugar and put them into rubbermaid cannisters. The seal has to be good. Similar to Tupperware. I just recently bought eight 5 lb. bags of sugar. One bag went into the container, the other 7 got vacuumed sealed. Also got salt at a fantastic price. Vacuumed sealed them too. About the only thing I don't seal is bars of body soap. Those I want to dry out. They last way longer in the shower when they have super dried out. We are using bath soap I purchased 4 years ago! Put a new bar of Dial in the shower three weeks ago. It is now 2/3 gone! Two people showering once a day. I grew up with my Mom and her Mother making everything from scratch. 17 loves of bread made every Monday. Cakes, cookies. Grandma's specialty was pies and donuts. Cake donuts, mmmmm good. Mom bought flour in 100 lb bags. Mom also made her own noodles. Surprised me no end when I discovered noodles in the grocery store when I was 16! She bought macaroni- but made all the rest. We got an infestation of bugs. Weevils, and other bugs. Daddy took out the drawers under the counter next to the stove and installed a tip out bin that he lined with sheet metal. There was no way we could afford to toss the flours. Yep, flours. Whole wheat, buckwheat, rye(s), and the 100 lbs. of white. So we double and triple sifted it. All bugs were collected by Grandma and she put them in those little paper bags that the corner grocer put penny candy in. Then she would take the bag outside and burn it. The larvae, well, that remained in the flour- but when you think about it - it couldn't do us any harm, every thing was baked or grilled. From that time on us kids NEVER ate raw cookie dough again. Chances are you do have bugs, you just don't see them. Me, I paint the inside of my cupboards, drawers and closets white. Washable white. Once or twice a year, I remove everything from the cupboards, scrub & rinse the insides and wipe the contents down. When you store food in closets, garages, etc., there are bugs in those places too. Boxed food whose contents are not enclosed in foil, waxed paper or plastic are prime targets & a buffet for insect infestations. Boxed cereal will last longer in storage if you vacuum seal it. So far I haven't found vacuum seal rolls or bags that can handle a box of cereal, so I transfer the cereal into portions. I use the largest bag that Food Saver makes, and fill it with cereal. I paid around $100 plus for my Food Saver vacuum sealer. I have an attachment to vacuum seal cannisters too. In the three years I have had it, it has more than paid for itself. When we moved, I vacuumed sealed all of my incense, glade air freshener candles, potpourri sachets. NOT all in one great bundle, individually. To keep them intact, and to help them keep their scents. I also vacuumed sealed all of my kitchen knives. The cleaver, my chef's knives, etc. Those were done individually- for safety sake. Be careful when you vacuum seal lasagna noodles. I didn't stop the machine fast enough, the noodles cracked and became coarse crumbs:cool:. I can't make lasagna with them, but I can use them for tuna/chicken/beef noodle casserole. Keep the yeast in the fridge in an air tight glass container. I have a two quart canning jar with the glass lid. Bought a new rubber gasket seal for it. Have had the yeast for 4 years, and it always proofs up beautifully! Measure out the amount you are going to use, let it sit about 15 minutes before you add it to the warm liquid. Even if I use foil packet yeast I have just purchased, I ALWAYS proof it. It takes 10 to 15 minutes and it guarantees success.

That is what I was wondering. Hopefully with her visiting the mormon.org site, we shall find out.

Yep, that's it!!

I don't know how computer savvy she is. Nearly all of her Daily Specials are done on a computer. Don't know if she surfs the internet. But I will tell her about mormon.org. If she asks any questions after that, then I will follow up with wikipedia, and lds.org. Okay, acted on a hunch- she and her husband have facebook accounts. Her business has a facebook account. SO she is internet savvy. She is in Spokane, WA until the first of the month. Her mother lives there, and not Springfield OR. Don't know her mothers last name- of her 17 friends, none of them are her mother. I am going back before the first of April, I think.

Came across this website- Mocavo - The Largest Free Genealogy & Family Tree Search Engine About Mocavo The world’s largest free genealogy search engine, Mocavo.com, provides genealogists access to the best free genealogy content on the web including billions of names, dates and places worldwide. Mocavo.com seeks to index and make searchable all of the world’s free genealogy information... I have spent a few hours searching this site- very impressed.

I had a guy do that to me too, only he was persistent and just wouldn't take no for an answer. First time I politely refused, said I appreciated the offer, but I was happily married. Second time I politely said No. Third time, I said NO. Fourth time I sighed and said: Okay, fine, where do I meet you for dinner? He named a restaurant, I showed up with my husband. I found out he was married- so when the jerk asked me a fifth time I accepted and told him I was treating him to lunch. Then I invited his wife, her parents and my husband. He never asked me out again. I always had customers asking me out - they knew I was married - didn't seem to bother them. What they didn't know was I knew they were married. Come on, the town only had a population of 850! I also countered with: Should I call "Mary" and set up a date and time with her, she will have to get a babysitter.

I actually had to refrain from doing the FacePalm! I told Husband of my conversation- we both looked at each other and THEN we both did the FacePalm I was raised and educated in Seattle WA. Graduated in 1970 with a 3.8 gpa (started off with a gpa of 1.8 as a freshman). Moved to this town originally in 1978- bought a tavern with first husband, and proceeded to hire and fire bartenders on a regular basis. It didn't bother me that the majority of my employees could not do basic spelling. BUT it was vital that they know, comprehend and carry out basic math. The cash register will do the adding for you. It will also figure the change amount if you input properly. Our machine was an old, two drawer NCR. We insisted that all employees put in the amount tended, so that there was a record of that AND for them to know how much money to give back in change. Makes it easier to trace back when a customer claims they gave you a twenty and only got change for a 10 or five. We seldom got anything larger than a twenty- and refused to take $50 & $100 bills while the banks were still open- up till 5 PM. After that, the bartender was to call us at home and we would come into town and make the change. After a week of not complying with all the "House Rules", you were terminated. After three years, we finally had a crew that followed the rules. Nearly all of the people we hired were graduates from the local HS. EVERY single one of them could not spell. EVERY single one of them was dependent on the machine telling them how much change to give back. I also insisted that they count the money back EACH and EVERY time. Taught them how to do it, and they got fired if they were not doing it. Husband knows this story about the illiterate High School Graduate employees. His comment to me after I related the Mormon/LDS conversation was: Is she a graduate of the local HS? Yep, she is.

I was at the local burger joint. It is owned by a gal who has had it for the last 22 years. We were talking about my returning to town, my ex (who she knew of) and how I met my new husband. Told her I met him on an LDS based dating service. She asked me what LDS was. Told her it was short for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Her: Never heard of that Me: They are also known as Mormons Her: No they aren't, my mother is Mormon Me: She is, what is her name? Her: She doesn't live here, you wouldn't know her, she lives in Springfield (Oregon) She is Mormon, not LDS. Me: What is the name of her church that she goes to? Her: I just told you, Mormon Me: Mormon, LDS, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, are one and the same. Her: NO, I said she was Mormon. Me; Okay, can you find out what Stake she belongs to? Her: Sure, not a problem. I will be talking to her this next week, it's her birthday, so I'll ask her then. Strange - so next week plus one day from now, I will go back, get a burger and fries and find out what Stake she belongs to. Perhaps in the meantime I can figure out a way to prove that Mormon, LDS and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints are the same, without getting In Your Face about it.

Before I moved to AZ 6 years ago- I dehydrated vegetables and stored them in vacuum seal bags. I never thought to rehydrate and serve as a side dish. Though, when I re-hydrated them in soups and stews, they had the same flavor and consistency as frozen. I dehydrated frozen vegetables. At the time I bought them on sale for $0.50 a one pound bag. They are already blanched - you just need to thaw in hot tap water (NOT cook, just thaw - until they are barely cool to the touch, not cold). Drain, dry as much of the water off with a kitchen not-terry cloth towel. I sectioned the servings on the dehydrator - one serving = 1/2 cup, so that when it was dried, I could easily put into bags and seal. I also did 1/4 c portions for use in stews and soups. I also dehydrated fresh mushrooms, green & red bell peppers. Bought at seriously marked down price because they were old and "Ugly". Dehydrated fresh onions too. Started out in the kitchen and after 2 hours moved it into the shed outdoors. The fumes nearly killed us! It did kill all the bugs in the shed, and the mice! Do you eat pasta? Then you need flour to make it. I still need to purchase the pasta attachment to my Bosch mixer. I have the meat/food grinder and the grain grinder. I also grind rice into flour and add it to my bread. As soon as Hard Red Wheat is available, I am purchasing that, then going to the cannery. #10 cans of wheat will store much better than 5 gal buckets of flour. I have the closet in the guest bedroom, where I will store the grain in cans. It has two top shelves. The upper most is shallow- just deep enough for #10 cans! My husband and I prefer bread made with home ground flour. I don't grind the flour as fine as what you buy in the store, thus the bread is coarser. Dahlia, there is just my husband and myself too. When we lived in AZ, I knew that was not going to be our permanent home- so I didn't store more than 3 months worth of foods. I did buy items to try that would be good for food storage. Found that we didn't like most of them. The Good Choice brand of single serve dishes - just add water and cook ones. They are okay- need to be spiced up~add extra vegetables, etc. But the Armor brand cook and eat- they are tolerable, but they are horrible a month after the 'Use By' date! They were stored in a humidity free home- the average indoor temp was 78. Don't know how old they were when I bought them- didn't bother to check out the 'Use By'date- they were on an introductory sale, looked good and I was hun-ger-y. Velveeta Shells and Cheese- use caution after the sell by date- the cheese in the foil container turns. Before you start cooking the shells, open the foil packet and check the cheese. I had to toss 8 boxes- well I tossed the cheese, kept the shells. Now I just buy jars of the store brand equivalent of Cheese Whiz, and use the spiral pasta I bought on sale. Multi-colored that the locals refused to buy. I got it for $0.48 a one pound box. When I got it home, I vacuumed sealed each box into a bag of it's own. Did the same with boxes of Rice-a-roni. The rice inside is NOT in it's own bag. The bugs have a field day feasting on the contents. So, I vacuum seal each box individually. They won't stand on their own in the cupboard, but they do fit into plastic containers, and the containers can be stacked. I detest powdered milk- I store canned evaporated milk. Only purchase it when it is on sale for $0.78 or less. Last time got it for $0.55 a can- bought two cases of it. I use it all the time. Only have three cans left! My sister loved powdered buttermilk and powdered butter. She baked a lot and used both in cakes, pancakes, waffles. I was raised on powdered milk. Mix up two quarts of powdered milk, refrigerate over night, then add 2 quarts of whole milk to make one gallon. Serve. When my older sisters mixed up the p. milk, it was always lumpy. So I made sure I made it. Used the electric hand mixer to insure no lumps! Mom also used it when she made bread. She added it with the flour. She made 17 loaves of bread a week to feed her family of 7 children and 3 adults!

We have the time, just not the skill to build. Either one of my brothers are skilled though. I just need to ask, and give them a gracious way out if they so choose. They live 326 miles north of us. If either of them declines my request, then I will see if anyone in my Branch or the next Ward can do it. Or I will find a handyman in the area. We also have the money. I just can't justify spending that much on something that does NOT utilize the entire cupboard. By the way, does anyone store vegetable seeds?

Walmart has them. Got mine in AZ, and found them here in OR also.

Who can afford the dang thing? I bought one - just one for a single kitchen shelf. Cost 30.00 and only held 1/2 my cans of tuna. Had nearly 30 cans. Took more space then the cans without. It isn't very deep at all. Once upon a time I found on line a pattern for making a wood dispenser for canned goods. Wish I had book marked it. I am ready to buy the pattern and have my brother build it for me. I FOUND IT!CanRacks.com If it is going to cost more than getting the roll out shelves, then I will get the shelves. Rollout Drawers :: Rolling Drawers :: Rolling Shelves I am buying some of the roll outs for my lower cupboards - BIG, cavernous holes. Have my blender, electric. mixer(s), hand meat grinder, moulenex, etc., all stuffed in it. On the opposite side, have mixing bowls, serving glass bowls, quart, 4C and 5 one cup measuring cups/bowls. Along with pie plates and only 1 loaf pan . I like to cook and bake in glassware. Lost 7 glass loaf pans. My sisters used to store wheat in bulk, rice, etc. Then when they moved into a shared house, and AFTER moving all the food- discovered the wheat was infested with weevils, the rice was moldy, 5 lb bags of sugar in 30 gallon plastic garbage cans were 5 lb bricks. The 3lb bags of flour were bad. Only two food items were usable. The salt and the honey. Oh, and the jars of pickles (watermelon, bread & butter, dill and sweet) and the jams that Mom had put up in 1969, 18 years earlier and two moves across many states later. Every one should have honey- whether you eat it or not. It is an antimicrobial, it is a natural anti-inflammatory, antibacterial, & antiseptic.

We talked about this the other night at RS. One thing was mentioned- ID. Put your drivers license in your jeans or pant pocket. I am thinking of having a necklace or bracelet made up. I am diabetic and should have one that says that, but I also want my pertinent info on it too. About half of our Branch members are in the tsunami alert area. When they heard the sirens and got the call, they had two hours to evacuate. They left in plenty of time, getting dressed (it was 4:45 to 5:15 AM alarms & calls), taking 72 hours kits for those who had them, grabbing extra blankets, pillows, and food out of the fridge and freezer for those who were going to members homes on higher ground. They all forgot important things. A few of the sisters were upset that it would have taken half a day to get their genealogy information packed and moved to higher ground. You know, I have been through three major moves. This last one, I did the tossing and the packing, but the two previous ones my ex packed, tossed and moved. IF it wasn't his, it got trashed. Yes, including my clothes! Yes, we were still married. He even trashed & burned my personal family photos. So I have lost material things. Irreplaceable things. But THINGS non-the-less. Lives are so much more important. I not only have block gel ice in the freezer, I also have two quart zip freezer bags full of flour, two of lentils, two of navy beans and two of long grain rice. I use them for ice packs. If the bag of flour is really full, then it holds the cold for longer than a bag of ice. I have not yet tested out the lentils, beans or rice. BUT the thing is, they will keep my extra insulin cold, are easier to stuff between boxes of pen insulin in the thermal bag I have. PLUS when they warm up, they can be cooked and eaten. Freezing and thawing really doesn't hurt them, there is no moisture inside the bags. Anyway, remember your ID, family names and phone numbers (email addy too) List of medications you take and the dosages. In your 72 hour bag, toss the hair conditioner - takes two to three X as much water to rinse out than shampoo. Notice in the Humanitarian Hygiene bags there is NO shampoo or conditioner or mouthwash. They are not essentials. We put together those bags the other night, and all of the women were wondering why just two hand towels? How in the world can you wash up/bathe with just two small hand towels. NOT one of the sisters knew how that would work. I was the only one who knew. You wash with soapy water with one, wring the soapy towel out real good, and wipe down with it. Then rinse off with the other and then wring the rinse towel out REAL good and then dry off. Don't put the soapy cloth into the water. Use your hand to scoop water onto it. When you wring your cloths out, wring them into an empty catch bowl. Same with the rinse cloth- wring it out into the catch bowl, and scoop fresh water onto it with your hand. When I was growing up, we didn't have bath sized towels. We had hand towels and wash cloths. After our bath, we wrung the wash cloth out real good, wiped down with it, wringing it out as it collected more water. Then we scrubbed dry with the hand towel. I preferred my fathers shaving towels (Tea Towels), they are bigger than the 10"x10" or 12"x12" wash cloth, but smaller than the hand towel. I could wring it out easier than the wash cloth. Could also wash more area with it too. I also told them that I would show them how to wash their hair & bathe with just two quarts of water, saving the bulk of the water to flush the throne with after wards! ~ , ~ Done rambling :)