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  1. Grunt
    The missionaries were very clear, though, that we will become the same as Him and have what He has. We discussed it for awhile, then they said they wanted to go back and study before discussing further.
  2. Grunt
    As I mentioned above, I read quite a bit today. There is a LOT of scripture regarding the plan for salvation, most of it (that I found) in the D&C and other items in essays and conference talks. I need to write my thoughts down when I get home and organize them, then find a missionary to harass.
  3. Grunt
    I did quite a bit of reading on my 5 hour flight. Help me with this: Not everyone becomes a God. Others become angels. If you make it to the Celestial, you can still progress within that, but if you don't, you're stuck where you're at. I also read something (I'll try to remember where, you can read a lot in 5 hours) that said God assembled other gods to lay out his plan. If there are multiple gods, and some of us become gods, then why aren't Mormons considered polytheistic? We worship both God and Christ but not the rest, and Christ is a god, then wouldn't that stand to reason?
  4. Grunt
    Maybe. Maybe I'm duller than others. I agree that the inspiration comes from the Holy Ghost, but my PERSONAL experience has been the Spirit speaks to me while I'm studying, or more often, talking to the missionaries. Maybe that's why I stalk them so often and in so many different places. I need to have a basis for my discussion and prayer, hence the study first. Then I talk through the roadblocks with someone until I receive inspiration or (more often) just come to accept. I frustrated the Sisters last night so we tabled our discussion. They said maybe this is something I need to stick a pin in for later, but I can't do that at this time.
  5. Grunt
    I really do value what you all post and I honestly note most of it then reference and research it. It just takes awhile. I don't want you folks to think that I don't appreciate the time you take to reference and respond. I'm not trying to be argumentative, I'm trying to learn. I ask questions, then research the responses, then ask MORE questions, wash-rinse-repeat. It's harder now since I'm moving past what I consider "the basics".
  6. Grunt
    Thanks! Since my flight is in a few hours, I've spent most of the night reading and referencing. Since most of the doctrine to support this belief is from revelation, which I still have difficulty accepting the accuracy or permanence of, I'll have to ponder it. It's going to take awhile to get through it all. Mostly, I'm reading the essay someone linked to earlier and backtracking from there. I'm on D&C 88 currently.
  7. Grunt
    And there I was, arguing with the missionaries..... "No, we become heavy breathing, some girl on the internet said so...."
  8. Grunt
    This makes a little more sense. It's still a major stretch for me, but I'll keep reading. I already missed supper anyway, AND I have a 15 hour trip tomorrow on which to study.
  9. Grunt
    So not EVERYONE will reach "godhood". There are angels who didn't receive exaltation?
  10. Grunt
    I just called the missionaries on this and had a good talk. It came to a stalemate, though. They said that there was doctrine that established we will become Gods, but they are looking it up to send me. Someone else said the true doctrine was "exalted" with no further explanation and the rest is supposed, then THAT I can accept. If the doctrine is we will become Gods, then that is something I would need to read the doctrine on and ponder.
  11. Grunt
    I agree with all that. I must have been unclear. I apologize.
  12. Grunt
    Mine must have fallen out of my bag. MAYBE it fell out at home, but I doubt it.
  13. Grunt
    I did. It’s gone.
  14. Grunt
    I don’t view my relationship with God the same as my parents. It’s not the same to me.
  15. Grunt
    I Lost it on this trip!
  16. Grunt
    Super excited when I left. I always feel bad when they can't answer my questions. Then I told them to stop agreeing with me if I'm wrong. They try so hard to be nice.
  17. Grunt
    I'm sure I drove the sisters at the Temple CRAZY yesterday with my questions. I woke up this morning thinking I'd go back tonight but changed my mind. That's borderline stalking and someone would likely call the cops.
  18. Grunt
    My brain hurts. Im not smart enough to be Mormon.
  19. Grunt
    Thank you! Even reading those, either I'm not fully understanding the belief or it's not what I believe at this time. Ill go look at the essays.
  20. Grunt
    That's what I don't believe and seem to get conflicting answers from Mormons. I believe I will always be lesser than God, and Christ to a lesser degree. Is their doctrine or scripture that answers this directly?
  21. Grunt
    Now THAT I understand. In my mind, “God” is specific and individual. I believe we will be better and eternal, but I believe there is only one God. The same with Christ. Edited to add: By "same with Christ" I mean he is more exalted than we will become due to his perfection, but he is not God either.
  22. Grunt
    Thanks! At this point in my journey, I don’t really believe that. I’ll research it more.
  23. Grunt
    I understand, but I know many people who are worthy of praise. I guess this is where I get confused. If we aren’t his peer, and I agree with that, then are there lesser Gods?
  24. Grunt
    To me? Revere. Honor. Give praise.
  25. Grunt
    So, if LDS believe that all three individuals in the Godhead are Gods and that we will also become Gods, then why do they worship God? Why does Jesus worship the Father? Sorry if that comes across as accusatory, it's offered in sincerity. I'm having a hard time understanding this.