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  1. Grunt
    I didn't read it that way at all. It can't remain stationary, so even though the question said it was designed to I found that to be irrelevant.
  2. Grunt
    I believe you're operating under the fallacy that we believe the plane will remain stationary. I do not believe the plane will remain stationary.
  3. Grunt
    I'm confused, too. As I read his statement and that website, I believe he just proved himself wrong.
  4. Grunt
    Nothing, beyond the friction of the hubs on the wheels. You would have to make assumptions not presented to assume the plane would not fly, ie: hubs generate enough friction to retard forward movement or engines aren't powerful enough to overcome the minor increase in friction generated through increased wheel speed. The scenario assumes and takes strides to convey, that unnatural impediments at the wheels don't exist.
  5. Grunt
    Of course, it will take off. Why wouldn't it? The medium upon which it sits is irrelevant.
  6. Grunt
    Blossom76, I've been studying feverishly for almost a week on this and talking to other members/Bishop/Stake President. As an investigator myself, take what I say with a grain of salt. However, this is where I am in my study: 1. I believe Mormon Culture and Doctrine are two different things and don't always compliment each other. Mormon's typically don't talk about many things in front of investigators because they recognize this (or at least that it sounds insane to people unknowing and/or without the Holy Spirit to guide them). IE: Spirit Prison 2. Mormons (culturally and doctrinally) use the word "god" sometimes carries the same meaning as we understand it and sometimes doesn't. This is all founded on doctrine, but like all doctrine, it is written and interpreted by man, who is imperfect. To believe, as I do, that God is more exalted that Jesus and Jesus is more exalted than us is a belief some may challenge, but that doesn't mean they are right. 3. As someone above stated, there are passages in the Bible to support most of the "whacky" ideas discussed in this thread. These are often clarified in the Book of Mormon or D&C which is why those are often cited in support. It is ALWAYS beneficial to use the footnotes to follow back, then search LDS.org for essays on the subject. 4. ALWAYS keep in mind what I said earlier. Man is imperfect. One thing the President told me last night that stuck with me later (I wish it had at the time and I might have remembered it verbatim) "People, our spirit, and the Gospel are pure and great, but held in an earthen vessel". Even when the Holy Spirit speaks to us, earthly ears must interpret it. 5. Probably the most important thing one of the missionaries said to me was that I won't always understand things that some lifetime members don't understand. We can pray for understanding, but more often it is better to pray for peace on the topic. I've done this, and thankfully that prayer was answered. My personal beliefs are still at odds with some things that I've learned, but I think I'm OK with that at this point.
  7. Grunt
    He would never give you the answers, though. Only just enough to ease my mind and point me in the right direction. He said he gives me his "seal of approval" if I decide to join. He was one of those people who just make you feel better being around him.
  8. Grunt
    I didn't want to come right out and say it.
  9. Grunt
    It was this evening. President Holland is our Stake President. It went well. We didn't talk about specifics. Just general philosophy, how words can get in the way, and some advice and wisdom. He's very nice.
  10. Grunt
    It helps. President Holland spoke about it tonight with me. His explanation helped a lot.
  11. Grunt
    I apparently didn't understand it.
  12. Grunt
    Do you have a Topical Guide or Bible Dictionary? Ive found it to add to my confusion at times, but also contain references to the Bible. Try John 21:20-23
  13. Grunt
    Where is he?
  14. Grunt
    The Apostle John still roams the earth? Where is that written?
  15. Grunt
    Pick your battles, son. That advice will serve you well throughout your marriage.
  16. Grunt
    Since it's new, have you tried to restore, update to latest, then download your apps again?
  17. Grunt
    I'm not baptized. Sorry, I didn't mean to allude otherwise.
  18. Grunt
    I’m out for now. This has far surpassed my current understanding and belief.
  19. Grunt
    You believe Jesus created Adam and Eve? I don’t believe that.
  20. Grunt
    dupe
  21. Grunt
    SO Mormons believe we all become a part of God? Im really confused and frustrated. It seems like you all say different things.
  22. Grunt
    But words MEAN something. If doctrine is one with scripture, the words need to be defined. When they aren’t we are just discussing theory or opinions. The more I study the more I start to think Mormonism has a very narrow baseline of doctrine. The rest is branches of theory and suppositions based on undefined or unanswered scripture or revelation. People state and defend these branches as doctrine and I can’t tell the difference.
  23. Grunt
    That doesn't make any sense to me. They are individuals. One is the Father, the other the Son, same as us. Of course I can honor one without the other. God is the Creator. He SENT Christ to atone. This is seeming more and more off the rails to me.
  24. Grunt
    WHAT!?!?!
  25. Grunt
    I know, but it very specifically says “God”. Sadly, my search now has me reading “Jesus the Christ”. This is going to take awhile.