DennisTate

I personally am a Messianic Gentile who feels called into politics and I was so glad to read what near death experiencer ...... and good friend of Mrs. Betty EAdie, author of Embraced By The Light wrote about this question. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betty_Eadie Here is the reply that Christian got when he asked about this:

The amazingly gifted Charismatic Catholic and / or Pentecostal visionary Pastor Rick Joyner had a dream of heaven...... and "hell" back in 1995 that reminds me of a near death experience in many ways. He actually met a deceased Christian friend of his in this state.... and they reported something like a rather scary or negative life review......... that in some senses might remind one of the scary and negative first near death experience of Dannion Brinkley, author of "Saved By The Light??????" In Pastor Joyner's book, "The Final Quest" there is a heading..... The Judgment Seat of Christ......... These comments are down about twenty paragraphs after that heading...... Whether or not Pastor Rick is an off the scale Christian literary genius up there with the best of them....... or if he actually had a genuine visionary dream of heaven back in 1995.... is a question far beyond my own Security Clearance Level with Messiah Yeshua - Jesus...... but if this is for real........ this explanation would help all of us to understand the amazing comparisons between modern near death experience accounts and the ancient Roman Catholic doctrine of Purgatory....... and modern Christian visions and dreams for that matter as well?????

So true..... she is astonishing....... and my own personal testimony reminds me of this man: Mark 5:15 And they come to Jesus, and see him that was possessed with the devil, and had the legion, sitting, and clothed, and in his right mind: and they were afraid.

It is very interesting that you mention this........ because at the last L.D.S. service that I was at.... in New Glasgow, Nova Scotia, Canada, we went through: https://www.lds.org/manual/gospel-principles/chapter-14-priesthood-organization?lang=eng Priesthood Organization “Chapter 14: Priesthood Organization,” Gospel Principles (2011), 72–80 ... and I decided to remain quiet even though I had a lot on my mind that related to this topic. I felt that perhaps I should talk about how my wife..... .six months before she met me...... was somehow shown to fast and pray for me for 35 days. For four weeks, for three days / week she ate no solid food..... drank only fruit juices..... and for the fifth week..... .seven days in a row...... only fruit juices and I was 3000 north north east of her...... basking in the most off the scale Shalom / peace of mind that I ever had in my life....... I remained silent because my astonishingly gifted wife is not an L.D.S. yet....... and is not likely to become L.D.S. because she does not enjoy reading.... (she uses special contact lenses)...... I have the impression that women..... tend to hear the voice of Messiah Yeshua - Jesus somewhat more clearly than perhaps ninety percent of us men....... Of course there are many exceptions to that general rule.....

I personally voted "Approachable" but I may be somewhat biased.......... because one of my first major online contacts was Sanhedrin Rabbi Yeshayahu Julius Hollander who is arguably one of the greatest Ambassadors on earth at this time.......... Also.... my online friend Mordecai Spiro is Breslovian Chassidic Jewish and because I think that his idea of us Christians assisting his community to get the remains of Rabbi Nachman of Breslov moved from the Ukraine to somewhere in Israel....... he and I really hit it off famously. I had an awesome experience at the Messianic Jewish congregation in Halifax, N. S..... but...... I know that the scholarship of Mr. Yair Davidiy is not exactly popular there...... .so I have not returned .... .partly due to it being 150 miles from my home....... and partly due to the fact that I don't want to cause division.

_________ I see you explained the LDS viewpoint, but I’m not really sure about what’s lacking in the Catholic and Protestant theologies! It seems that we, looking at it from what you’ve written, skip a step, going to that ultimate destination you mention, without a lesser heaven and hell in between. In Catholicism, the joy of heaven is more of a state of being, of being in perfect Union with God. For Catholics and Protestants, there is a step after being in heaven as spirits separate from our bodies, when a new, perfect earth is created and we are united with bodies once again. God bless!  Very, very, very interesting indeed........ I think that it is an especially powerful point that the souls in Purgatory are indeed already Saved........ in a sense Purgatory could then perhaps correspond with the "Outer Darkness of Heaven" as a brilliant Christian visionary recently wrote about?????

I absolutely do agree with this statement that the spirits that are in paradise....... can teach the spirits that are in prison! https://www.lds.org/manual/gospel-principles/chapter-41-the-postmortal-spirit-world?lang=eng

Although I left his Liberal Party back in 2015 I believe that P. M. Justin Trudeau really did something wise and important by publicly apologizing for how the Canadian government turned away the 907 Jewish refugees on the M. S. St. Louis back in 1939. I believe that P. M. Trudeau has set the stage for a closer look at this dark and shameful part of Canadian history by Latter Day Saint writers and film producers. This will help to increase dialogue between Latter Day Saints, Jews, Roman Catholics and many others interested in history. http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/canada-to-apologize-for-turning-away-jews-fleeing-nazi-germany.532482/ Canada to apologize for turning away Jews fleeing Nazi Germany

You live in northern Utah.... very interesting....... I believe that President Trump is facing a massive problem involving 4.3 trillion USA petro-dollars being dumped on the world markets by China, George Soros...... and other nations that want to knock out the USA economically........ so that they can get at the nation of Israel....... The State of Utah.... is one of the only USA States capable of getting into what would amount to large scale monetary policy...... http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/could-a-utah-state-dollar-save-the-usa-dollar.349935/ Could a Utah State Dollar save the USA Dollar? Do you know if you have anything like Ithaca Hours.... or Calgary Dollars near where you live? A local or alternative currency? These things were pretty big during the Great Depression! https://money.cnn.com/2012/01/17/pf/local_currency/index.htm?iid=F_Jump Local currencies: 'In the U.S. we don't trust'

I have been giving this question some thought and I have a possible idea on this....... Please visualize the wheat....... as not merely wheat... but as a PROP in a proposed reality film series.......... May I ask what State or Province you live in? I live in Nova Scotia, Canada and the following basic idea may help you to get a few ideas:

Here are two other discussions that help to make this basic idea more understandable: What I mean by the idea of semi- reality science fiction films... is that G-d may actually be using something like non-linear time to lead more and more and more and more of us into the mind set of heaven / paradise.... .so that we and our ancestors can escape from the scary hellish / purgatory type afterlife realms?! and...... Because I have forty years of a connection to some aspects of Judaism... I feel that I may be able to assist Latter Day Saints to have a better relationship with the Jewish people.... and with the nation of Israel.... and with a number of Israeli and Jewish friends of mine! and.....

Now ... here is a basic idea that you can do something with....... but it would be almost impossible for me to do so........ Imagine several L.D.S. missionaries to Nova Scotia, Canada in the year 1939...... and imagine one or two or more of their own grandsons or granddaughters..... being allowed to speak with them somehow....... (perhaps in a dream..... perhaps another method)... up to you? These L.D.S. missionaries to N.S., Canada are warned about those 907 Jewish refugees returning to Europe...... because the third of them that ended up in England were safe... but most of the two thirds that went to France and Belgium eventually became victims of the Holocaust........ Now.... imagine L.D.S. missionaries going to a logical possible location to do something with this basic concept: http://thechronicleherald.ca/thenovascotian/1569926-a-living-history-stephen-flemming-committed-to-his-mission-at-sherbrooke-vill A living history: Stephen Flemming committed to his mission at Sherbrooke Village

Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada is connected to the MS St. Louis saga because that ship and her 907 Jewish refugees was turned away from Nova Scotia after being turned away from Cuba and then Florida. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS_St._Louis

Roman Catholic theologian Matthew Fox Ph. D. wrote in his book, "Coming of the Cosmic Christ" that ART..... in some form..... may be one of the only ways to achieve something like full employment in a world.... where rapidly increasing technology makes more and more jobs and careers obsolete...... and unnecessary. Latter Day Saints.... .have suffered persecution and identify with the situation faced by Jews in 1939..... somewhat more so than most North American Christians can...... because we face a lower level of persecution. P. M. Justin Trudea is terribly flawed ...... way too far politically left wing.......but.... he did recently do something I have to give him credit for: https://www.yahoo.com/news/canada-apologize-turning-away-jews-fleeing-nazi-germany-171009960.html Canada to apologize for turning away Jews fleeing Nazi Germany

Good points..... http://www.bible.ca/b-pyramid-seed.htm The Bible and the 4500 year old seed found in the pyramids!

I read "Clay and Iron" by Messianic Jewish near death experiencer William Deagle M. D. back in 1999. Here is a statement from his book..... Here is a similar prediction from another gifted Messianic Jew. https://youtu.be/5QLsDpTpJXc David Herzog on It's Supernatural with Sid Roth - Glory Zone Pastor David Herzog..... predicts that the First Nations tribes of the USA and Canada will play a huge role in assisting in this latter day Exodus of Jews from the USA up to Canada.... .from where they will make Aliyah to Israel.

I was given the link to one of the webpages where I could update my parents and grandparents info...... I am truly impressed with the website: https://www.familysearch.org/

Here is one of my writings explaining how huge this question really could turn out to be! The being of light of NDE fame, G-d or Satan? It seems to me that we are in a situation somewhat like the time of the Prophet Elijah.1Kings 18:21 I began to study these experiences a great deal back in 1990. They immediately made me realize that the "soul sleep" doctrine that I had been taught was almost certainly in error. I got kicked out of two churches due to disagreements mainly over that doctrine. But as a Christian there was no way that I could deny the possibility of people having an "out of the body experience!" 2 Corinthians 12:2 But I know that many Christians struggle with these accounts..... partly because they are offended that people are shown going to heaven who have not "accepted Yeshua - Jesus" in quite the same manner that they did?!?! Howard Storm: Here is the verse that causes many Christians to reject NDE accounts as a deception from the dark side of the force.Acts 4:12

I so thank you for these fascinating links........ Here is another one that I found once I read the link above: http://www.ldsliving.com/Life-After-Death-6-Insights-into-the-Spirit-World/s/77329 Life After Death: 6 Insights into the Spirit World In my opinion......... IF..... the being of light of NDE fame who reviews lives with Christians who have a brush with death is none other than Messiah Yeshua - Jesus...... keeping several of his promises to his followers...... THEN..... Latter Day Saints and Roman Catholics have a head start in coming to understand certain rather big questions that may well be facing Christians at this time. John 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son: John 16:25 These things have I spoken unto you in proverbs: but the time cometh, when I shall no more speak unto you in proverbs, but I shall shew you plainly of the Father.

Here is a write up that I did on this basic idea back in 2012: Canada's Worst Politician, the film series concept?! November 29, 2012 at 8:14 AM

... a series of reality plus semi-reality science fiction films..... set supposedly in 1939.... that postulates a new time line where the 907 refugees on the M. S. St. Louis..... are smuggled into Nova Scotia, Canada by fishermen who are working with The Antigonish Movement that was began by Dr. Moses Coady.

Wow!!!! I am about half way through the video now and already I have a big lump in my throat! Wow!!!!!

I have been attempting to use internet as an Open Door to the world..... as encouraged in Revelation chapter 3.... and you Latter Day Saints are also some of the most well read Christians in the world. Mormons have often read, The Book of Jasher, The Book of Enoch, the Book of Adam and Eve as well as other apocryphal writings..... as well as near death experience accounts. It is so much easier to have a discussion with people who already have a background to the topic that I want to get into. Latter Day Saints...... are a lot like Jews in some important ways..... and you have both gotten a lot of persecution.

This theory....... in a way lays the foundation for a reality plus semi- reality science fiction film series...... starring Mr. Mitt Romney and Mrs. Anne Romney in another time line..... based on the idea of his winning the election in 2012? "Mitt Romney, The White Horse President Prophecy and North Korea."

Well said....... "there is quite a bit of variety in the afterlife".......... ! I think that that is absolutely correct! Messiah Yeshua - Jesus has the authority and the power to take an Atheist like Howard Storm Ph. D......... take him through a review of his life... .and then resurrect him to give a powerful message to the whole world...... that may correspond amazingly well with the message that Lazarus was giving that caused some people to want to kill Lazarus......... due to the convicting power of his message.