Spencer Posted August 9, 2004 Report Posted August 9, 2004 Some seem to be very quick to put down Joesph Smith for errors he may or may not have made during his time. And you know what, plenty of prophets of old errored too! Why do you not speak of them? Ill tell you why, because you try to instill doubt into the LDS members hearts that will lead them away from the church, and I will not stand for it any longer. Ill be keeping an eye out for those who talk negatively against our prophets. Just because it may not be specifically laid out in the rules does not mean you wont get nailed for it. This is a PRO LDS site, so use common sense people. Thanks, Spencer Quote
Guest lt Posted August 9, 2004 Report Posted August 9, 2004 YES!!!! I'm doing the jiggy dance about now with my pal Ziggy, Jiggy Jiggy ....Jiggy Jiggy.... It's nice to know I was not the only person tired of this LaurelTree Quote
Maureen Posted August 9, 2004 Report Posted August 9, 2004 Originally posted by Spencer@Aug 9 2004, 06:05 AM Ill be keeping an eye out for those who talk negatively against our prophets. How do you define negatively?For example, if I were to state that I believe that JS probably had a mental illness, specifically Narcissism, would you consider that a negative statement?Just so you know, I'm not try to push your buttons but it's helpful if you're more specific about what you think is negative. Thanks!M. Quote
Spencer Posted August 9, 2004 Author Report Posted August 9, 2004 Ill let you know as these issues arise, Im sure there will be many oppertunities to make examples of. (will warn first) Spencer Quote
Jason Posted August 9, 2004 Report Posted August 9, 2004 Spencer, Doubt makes people think. They will then be forced to learn. If in learning they leave your church, fine. If in learning they become more resolute, fine. What's the problem? Quote
Faerie Posted August 9, 2004 Report Posted August 9, 2004 because there are those of us who are plain sick of the remarks :) Quote
Spencer Posted August 9, 2004 Author Report Posted August 9, 2004 Im sure there are other netural board's where those things may be more fitting. While we dont allow/dis-allow anyone on LDS-Talk, some things will just not be tolerated. Spencer Quote
Kevin Posted August 9, 2004 Report Posted August 9, 2004 Originally posted by ExMormon-Jason@Aug 9 2004, 11:44 AM Spencer, Doubt makes people think. They will then be forced to learn. If in learning they leave your church, fine. If in learning they become more resolute, fine. What's the problem? This board isn't here for you to forward your agenda. The problem is that others (and you to an extent) think that it is appropriate to use this board as your soapbox to espouse your beliefs about the LDS faith. The purpose of the board is to allow LDS members and those friendly to the LDS to come and discuss things LDS in a positive light. This doesn't stop you (and others with the same or similar agenda) from pursuing your agenda but it does stop you from doing it here. Quote
Kevin Posted August 9, 2004 Report Posted August 9, 2004 Originally posted by Maureen+Aug 9 2004, 11:34 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Maureen @ Aug 9 2004, 11:34 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Spencer@Aug 9 2004, 06:05 AM Ill be keeping an eye out for those who talk negatively against our prophets. How do you define negatively?For example, if I were to state that I believe that JS probably had a mental illness, specifically Narcissism, would you consider that a negative statement?Just so you know, I'm not try to push your buttons but it's helpful if you're more specific about what you think is negative. Thanks!M. Yes, that would be considered a negative statement. One of the teachings of the LDS faith is that we are not to speak ill of the Lord's annointed. Joseph Smith is obviously included in that category and such comments are clearly speaking ill of Joseph Smith. A person may have such beliefs about Joseph Smith and that person has every right to those opinions. However, no person has any right to express those opinions on this privately owned board. If anybody wants to express those opinions then they'll have to take it to a public forum or another private forum where such is allowed. Quote
iamalighthouse Posted August 9, 2004 Report Posted August 9, 2004 We're also not suppose to gossip. You know like talking bad about somebody who isn't there, and i highly doubt joseph smith is with you as you talk about him. Quote
DisRuptive1 Posted August 9, 2004 Report Posted August 9, 2004 What about statements that are true but put the prophet in a bad light? Would you rather have us hold our tongue or share for the greater knowledge of us all? If it were found out that Joseph Smith killed someone for any reason (even though we are commanded "Thou shalt not kill") should we keep quiet even though giving the information is truthful? Quote
Jason Posted August 9, 2004 Report Posted August 9, 2004 I guess you're heads are sore from thinking. Fine. Good bye. Quote
Kevin Posted August 10, 2004 Report Posted August 10, 2004 Originally posted by DisRuptive1@Aug 9 2004, 02:21 PM What about statements that are true but put the prophet in a bad light? Would you rather have us hold our tongue or share for the greater knowledge of us all? If it were found out that Joseph Smith killed someone for any reason (even though we are commanded "Thou shalt not kill") should we keep quiet even though giving the information is truthful? Disruptive, the purpose of this board has been made more than clear. You're free to have your opinions but you're not free to express such opinions here. This is not a public forum. You post here at the will and pleasure of the person who owns this site and pays for its maintenance. She is not obligated to allow you to post anything contrary to the purpose of the board. Quote
Maureen Posted August 10, 2004 Report Posted August 10, 2004 It appears someone has died and made Kevin boss...er I mean moderator. When did this happen? And do all the other moderators out there in LDStalk land agree with Kevin? M. Quote
Guest bat Posted August 10, 2004 Report Posted August 10, 2004 Originally posted by Maureen@Aug 9 2004, 10:11 PM It appears someone has died and made Kevin boss...er I mean moderator. When did this happen? And do all the other moderators out there in LDStalk land agree with Kevin?M. I agree with Kevin. This is a board where everybody loves and believes that Mark Hacking is a prophet of god, and saying bad things about him are "anti" and not allowed.Mark was a good guy and served an honorable 2 year mission, except he didn't and his MP lied about it, but he was lying for the lord, and that makes it okay.I hear that Mark Hacking even made up his own Egyptian Alphabet and Grammar that is fully endorsed by secular Egyptologists. It's probably true. Quote
Guest bat Posted August 10, 2004 Report Posted August 10, 2004 Oh yea, and Vikings once landed in Cedar City. I saw it in a newspaper article. Quote
Spencer Posted August 10, 2004 Author Report Posted August 10, 2004 Originally posted by Maureen@Aug 10 2004, 01:11 AM It appears someone has died and made Kevin boss...er I mean moderator. When did this happen? And do all the other moderators out there in LDStalk land agree with Kevin?M. Yes all moderators come to an agreement before any major decision is made. Quote
Spencer Posted August 10, 2004 Author Report Posted August 10, 2004 Originally posted by bat+Aug 10 2004, 03:32 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (bat @ Aug 10 2004, 03:32 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Maureen@Aug 9 2004, 10:11 PM It appears someone has died and made Kevin boss...er I mean moderator. When did this happen? And do all the other moderators out there in LDStalk land agree with Kevin?M. I agree with Kevin. This is a board where everybody loves and believes that Mark Hacking is a prophet of god, and saying bad things about him are "anti" and not allowed.Mark was a good guy and served an honorable 2 year mission, except he didn't and his MP lied about it, but he was lying for the lord, and that makes it okay.I hear that Mark Hacking even made up his own Egyptian Alphabet and Grammar that is fully endorsed by secular Egyptologists. It's probably true. This is just retarded Bat, whats the purpose here? Are you trying to be funny? I post requesting that people please be a little more respectful to our prophets and this is your response.Lovely, I see you havent changed much at all.Spencer Quote
Marsha Posted August 10, 2004 Report Posted August 10, 2004 Originally posted by Maureen@Aug 10 2004, 01:11 AM It appears someone has died and made Kevin boss...er I mean moderator. When did this happen? And do all the other moderators out there in LDStalk land agree with Kevin?M. hmmmm......... I haven't been a moderator or admin on this site for quite awhile, but I think that Kevin has hit it right in the bullseye. Not sure what you are "reading'' between the lines, but he is saying the same thing that the moderators here and Heather has said for a long time.Marsha Quote
Lindy Posted August 10, 2004 Report Posted August 10, 2004 Originally posted by ExMormon-Jason@Aug 9 2004, 02:45 PM I guess you're heads are sore from thinking. Fine. Good bye. Hey Jason....I LIKE to think...don't leave. Quote
Ray Posted August 10, 2004 Report Posted August 10, 2004 I think it’s both strange and sad how some people think they can’t help other people learn something unless they cause them to doubt or discredit their beliefs. Yes, sometimes we have to expound upon something to bring our different perspectives into focus, but what makes people think they can’t share their own beliefs while being positive? Case in point: Jason said good-bye because he was told he could no longer say things to cause us to doubt our religion. Why doesn’t he want to just share the benefits of what he believes we will gain if we accept his religion? Why can’t he just share the truth that he has accepted and ask questions about why we accept what we believe? Another case in point: bat believes he can’t help us unless he shows us how ridiculous our beliefs seem to him. Why doesn’t he want to just share the benefits of what he believes we will gain if we accept his way of thinking? Why can’t he just share the truth that he has accepted without trying make fun of our beliefs? I agree with Spencer and Faerie and LaurelTree and Kevin and Marsha and many other people who are sick of all the negative remarks. If people don’t have anything positive to say about us, or about their own religion or beliefs, they should be warned that their negative comments are unacceptable and then banned if they so continue. Quote
Maureen Posted August 10, 2004 Report Posted August 10, 2004 Originally posted by Ray@Aug 10 2004, 11:16 AM Another case in point: (about bat)...Why can’t he just share the truth that he has accepted without trying make fun of our beliefs? Because Ray you would simply dismiss the truth he shares by saying that you know he is wrong because you are right.M. Quote
Maureen Posted August 10, 2004 Report Posted August 10, 2004 Originally posted by Marsha+Aug 10 2004, 10:27 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Marsha @ Aug 10 2004, 10:27 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Maureen@Aug 10 2004, 01:11 AM It appears someone has died and made Kevin boss...er I mean moderator. When did this happen? And do all the other moderators out there in LDStalk land agree with Kevin?M. hmmmm......... I haven't been a moderator or admin on this site for quite awhile, but I think that Kevin has hit it right in the bullseye. Not sure what you are "reading'' between the lines, but he is saying the same thing that the moderators here and Heather has said for a long time.Marsha IMO, Kevin is saying that opinions about JS or other church leaders will be censored if they do not reflect lovely, mushy, lets put them on a pedestal sentiments.M. Quote
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