rameumptom Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 I would agree except for the anti Catholic " simile " and Catholoc bashing " metaphore " comments :lol::lol:Why should you Catholics be treated any differently than the other groups we bash here? Oh, did I just write that? How ironic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryFields Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Has anyone seen "The Forgotten Carols"? I just love that play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneEternalSonata Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Has anyone seen "The Forgotten Carols"?I just love that play.I actually received that DVD as a gift a year ago. lol Still haven't watched it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryFields Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 I actually received that DVD as a gift a year ago. lol Still haven't watched it. Oh you really should.. especially with a lightly fallen snow night and something yummy in the oven."It's A Big Tree..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr T Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Thanks for that Connie. I love the concept of Irony a lot :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moksha Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 If someone says something that bothers you... I like to shrug my shoulders and let my mind wander to the next thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palerider Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 I like to shrug my shoulders and let my mind wander to the next thought. wander to the next thought...is that anything like...mosey on down the path????....:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elphaba Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 (edited) I found this on Wikipedia's definition of Irony.A fair amount of confusion has surrounded the issue regarding the relationship between verbal irony and sarcasm, and psychology researchers have addressed the issue directly (e.g, Lee & Katz, 1998). <snip>of the speakers. Regardless of the various ways theorists categorize figurative language types, people in conversation are attempting to decode speaker intentions and discourse goals, and are not generally identifying, by name, the kinds of tropes used. Is there going to be a test after this? Can it be open book? You are really overthinking sarcasm and irony. And based on my perception, you seem to feel there's something wrong with using sarcasm? Do I have that right?If so, that's unfortunate, because the words themselves rarely mean the extremes this essay addresses.There are so many variations of the words we use that make it impossible, in every day life, to pin down "sarcastic" or "irony." Unless it is strongly overt, it's rarely going to be just one or the other.One example: I am a quiet person. I don't talk a lot. People will often say to me something to the effect of, "Gee, Connie, you really need to let everyone else get a word in edgewise." Most would probably consider this a sarcastic statement. And while it can be given a certain tone of voice and jeering snear, most often they simply mean it ironically.Of course you know your friends, and I can be completely wrong. But I don't hear what you hear at all. I would say they did use a touch of sarcasm, nuanced with a tinge of irony, and the result was a sweet reminder to you that they care about you, know you are quiet, but are available to you if you wish to talk. In other words, they're teasing you. And when people who love you tease you, it's an endearing thing. I hope this rovides some perspective. Becaise I've just turned into the pedantic I hate, and have written far too many words, nuanced of course, about sarcasm, and irony. Elphaba Edited October 31, 2008 by Elphaba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palerider Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 Is there going to be a test after this? Can it be open book? You are really overthinking sarcasm and irony. And based on my perception, you seem to feel there's something wrong with using sarcasm? Do I have that right?If so, that's unfortunate, because the words themselves rarely mean the extremes this essay addresses.There are so many variations of the words we use that make it impossible, in every day life, to pin down "sarcastic" or "irony." Unless it is strongly overt, it's rarely going to be just one or the other.Of course you know your friends, and I can be completely wrong. But I don't hear what you hear at all. I would say they did use a touch of sarcasm, nuanced with a tinge of irony, and the result was a sweet reminder to you that they care about you, know you are quiet, but are available to you if you wish to talk. In other words, they're teasing you. And when people who love you tease you, it's an endearing thing. I hope this rovides some perspective. Becaise I've just turned into the pedantic I hate, and have written far too many words, nuanced of course, about sarcasm, and irony. Elphaba your in trouble if I am grading the papers...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rameumptom Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 Isn't it ironic that Elphaba's sweet endearing nature has been forced to become pedantic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miztrniceguy Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 this isn't the pedantic forum ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rameumptom Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 Was that sarcasm I noted in your post? Perhaps it would be ironic if we switched this to a thread on pedantics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elphaba Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 your in trouble if I am grading the papers...... Hey! I didn't write that. Who has access to my account? Because everyone knows Elphaba NEVER makes mistakes.Oh, well, I fess up.But I blame it on Honor and Tam for keeping me out so late last night.Elphie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connie Posted November 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2008 Oh well. I thought it was interesting information. I love words. And i enjoy discussing semantics. I mean, Latter-Day Saints and other Christians can say the same word and mean different things. It's important in people understanding each other to discuss what is meant by any given word or phrase. But now i'm just rambling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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