Question about a person calling

[pepsidriver]

As a life long member of the LDS church how does a person mention to our Bishop a person that has been given the wrong calling? I am referring to a Relief Society President.

[melissar]

What leads you to believe that this person received the wrong calling? I would recommend praying about this before talking to the bishop.

Edited December 25, 2008 by melissar
worded incorrectly

[Palerider]

I would talk to him about it and tell him why you think its the wrong one and then let him tell you why that person was called.....:)

[pam]

I'm not sure how anyone has the right to say the wrong person was called to a particular position. No one has any idea what inspiration the Bishop may have had in calling someone to that position. Perhaps they needed to learn patience. Perhaps they needed to learn compassion. Perhaps they needed to learn that everyone is worthwhile.

Just because someone doesn't see the reason why someone has a calling..there probably is something you are unaware of.

[Palerider]

I'm not sure how anyone has the right to say the wrong person was called to a particular position. No one has any idea what inspiration the Bishop may have had in calling someone to that position. Perhaps they needed to learn patience. Perhaps they needed to learn compassion. Perhaps they needed to learn that everyone is worthwhile.

Just because someone doesn't see the reason why someone has a calling..there probably is something you are unaware of.

I use to love it when I was asked these questions....:)

[pam]

I have known of people in the past called to positions in an attempt to activate. Sometimes it worked. Sometimes it didn't. I just don't see the right anyone has to question it.

Unless that person is using their calling for unrighteous reasons.

[Palerider]

Its a teaching moment.....:)

[georgia2]

HAHAHAH I had to laugh out loud and read this question to my family because we had a similar situation in our ward! the person called was embarrassed to tell her coworkers she was a member. She was, (IS) a control freak, . When I didn't raise my hand to sustain, ( i didn't raise my hand against either) the Bishop called me in and railed on me! There were at least 5 others who felt as I did.

now, 4 years later, nothing has changed. We are just biding our time! Who knows why things like this happen? HEavenly Father does! Nothing happens by chance, there is no such thing. So i count on Him and keep quiet.

[john doe]

Sometimes callings are given so the person can grow from the experience. Sometimes callings are given to someone so that others can grow from the experience of having that person in that position.

If someone is struggling with their calling, maybe you can help them become better suited to it by doing all you can to sustain them in that position. If that means being a good follower, then do so. If that means lovingly giving suggestions to make things work better, then do so.

[pepsidriver]

Everyone has brought up some good points and thank you, this person has no compassion she is a phony I know this is a harsh word but it is true she acts like a caring person to the bishopric and other members, the problem is she judges people for their misfortune and she is supposed to be there to help at he Bishop request, we are so grateful for our church, very grateful. I don’t want to go into details but she was instructed to help us out and did not and told us we didn’t need the help how are we going to tell our Bishop what she said to us. We have a family of 4 and we needed a food order which is 2 weeks of food months ago she only gave us enough for 2 people and said that is all she is going to give us and we need to learn how to stretch the food needless to say it didn’t last more than a week. She has no children and can’t possible know how much a family of 4 can eat or has a general dislike for us. But I will continue to donate my time for our church when I can and not let a person bring me own. If she doesn’t like her calling she should step down and say she is not the right person for the calling if it gets in the way of her private life or personal prejudices (better than us) that also is a harsh word to use, I am not a perfect person and know it, but I try to be better person that is all we can do is try.

Everyone have a Merry Christmas

[john doe]

If that is the case, then you need to meet with the bishop and explain what has been going on.

[kona0197]

Why are some here saying to not question the calling? Question everything. That's how you find truth.

[georgia2]

I hear you!

Same sort of issue here.

But in your situation, I would tell the BIshop about the incident and comment,(in a loving way) as letting him know you would like to understand. He may not know she is like this.

If he asked he to talk to you, then he feels you are in the position for needing help. As the RS Pres, she is also entitled to make decisions as to need. If she feels you don't need it, she could be wrong. I would talk to my Bishop.

[MarginOfError]

I would encourage anyone having these feelings to talk to the Bishop, but only on one condition: that you're prepared for nothing to change. The Bishop may take what you have to say and determine that a change needs to be made, or he may determine that things need to stay exactly as they are. You have a right to voice your concerns, but if you support and sustain your Bishop, you should accept whatever decision he makes afterward.

Georgia, no offense, but biding your time? I know I don't know the whole situation, so do what you will with this comment and I won't be think the worse of you, but 'biding your time' never helps a situation like this. Perhaps you need to improve as much as this other person, just in different areas? Anyway, your comment sounded odd to me. I apologize if I'm off base.

[KeithLBrown]

Some very good points have been made here. If I may just add my two cents worth and perhaps summarize some of the points.

I have served as a Second Counselor in our Ward's Bishopric and now serve as the First Counselor. I have sat in counsel with our Bishop on several issues including the filling of certain callings. There is a great deal of prayer and seeking the guidance of the Holy Spirit in deciding who should fill which callings. People are not necessarily called just because we as a Bishopric may feel that the person is the "perfect" person for that calling, nor are callings made based on a person's "popularity" with the masses as it were. More times than not, callings are extended to people who through divine inspiration are brought to mind because that person needs to mature and grow spiritually and the calling that is extended to them helps to accomplish that.

By all means, if you have a concern about a person in a particular calling you should bring it to the attention of the Bishop. It may be that the Bishop is already aware of certain situations and has already counseled the person concerning the matter. One thing that we all need to realize is that once we raise our hands and sustain our Bishop, we need to support him in whatever ways possible. We are not necessarily going to have all of the inside information on a person. Even as a Counselor, there are matters concerning individuals in our Ward that are strictly confidential between that member and the Bishop. I truly respect that. In the case of being a Bishop or even one of his counselors, confidentiality is paramount. Though I agree every member has a right to question things, every member does not reserve the right to know every particular detail about any matter. Again, it goes back to following through with the sustaining of our Church officials.

I have faced similar situations as with the Relief Society President in this instance and I trust my Bishop to be prayerful and seek inspiration and guidance to make the decisions that are necessary. In my humble opinion, I don't think that we have a right to say who should have what calling or if a person has been called to a wrong position or calling. Keep in mind also, that once a person is called and we raise our hands to sustain that person, we then must support that person and help them in any way that we can, in love and understanding, as Brothers and Sisters.

Just my two cent worth.

[Elgama]

You can bring up issues without questioning calling - that is not the place of anyone except the person with the calling and the Bishop. we have had issues with our RS in the past, and then she got recalled and has been fantastic, and done her best, when she was first recalled my reaction was not to sustain it, BUT I trust my Branch President he a good man of God, therefore I knew the calling was not from him but from the LORD it was the right thing to happen, and it has been its been the opportunity for everyone involved in previous whole sorry mess to repent fully, make resitution and learn to support her. BECAUSE we have this time taken that opportunity this presidency has been successful.

A few years back there was concerns with our branch president (different one), it was mostly related to other problems in his health and an inability to deal with the problems the branch had, but he was also a Good man, Once I had told the Stake President my concerns it was my duty to then continue to sustain both the Stake Presidency and the Branch President.

Like Margin of Error says tell your Bishop your concerns except and sreally pay attention to the counsel you receive. Come out of the room and continue to sustain both him and the RS President. Things will change as the LORD directs , Her decision may have been inspired sometimes food we think we need can be stretched etc or maybe its something whilst her way of teaching it may have been wrong you do need to look at - I don't know what I do know is because I went through everything with my RS President when we needed help (she didn't see a way for me to cut down and was horrifed I suggested I could and have done since lol), my Branch and RS President now take what I ask for at face value (its actually been me that decided I didn;t need help they kept offering) whereas others that haven't sat down and been through everything etc don't get the same level of help or support

Have you been through a needs assesment with your RS President? she may able to make assesments or give advice or maybe see what you really need>?

-Charley

Edited December 25, 2008 by Elgama

[pam]

I just got to thinking that perhaps I should be careful with my responses to the person who started the thread. He could be the pepsi driver that delivers to my store. He would have some real dirt on me if it were. lol

[Palerider]

I just got to thinking that perhaps I should be careful with my responses to the person who started the thread. He could be the pepsi driver that delivers to my store. He would have some real dirt on me if it were. lol

I am scared just reading that you were thinking.....

[pam]

You should always be scared of me.

[KristofferUmfrey]

That's why they ask if there "Is Anyone opposed?". It is not just a formality.

[pam]

Okay but question. I have never in all of my *cough* 29 years seen anyone oppose. What is the procedure or protocal when this happens?

[KristofferUmfrey]

Okay but question. I have never in all of my *cough* 29 years seen anyone oppose. What is the procedure or protocal when this happens?

In the rare instances where I've heard of it happening, they usually pull the person aside ask their concern and I suppose, go from there. Every story I've heard the person returns ready to sustain.

[KristofferUmfrey]

In the rare instances where I've heard of it happening, they usually pull the person aside ask their concern and I suppose, go from there. Every story I've heard the person returns ready to sustain.

If you are brave enough to raise your hand in opposition being pulled out for a couple of minutes shouldn't be too awkward.

[Palerider]

You should always be scared of me.

whatever

[Palerider]

All the years I served I never seen anyone oppose when sustaining...however....if there is one you would meet with that person afterwards to find out why they opposed. I think there might be more people oppose, but I think fear stops them from doing so. If someone feels the way the original poster felt they need to speak with their Bishop. While I was serving I had someone go around telling other members that I wasn't calling people to the right callings. Needless to say we had a very nice conversation when I found out....