bytor2112 Posted March 3, 2009 Report Posted March 3, 2009 How Government Prolonged the DepressionPolicies that decreased competition in product and labor markets were especially destructive.By HAROLD L. COLE and LEE E. OHANIANThe New Deal is widely perceived to have ended the Great Depression, and this has led many to support a "new" New Deal to address the current crisis. But the facts do not support the perception that FDR's policies shortened the Depression, or that similar policies will pull our nation out of its current economic downturn.The goal of the New Deal was to get Americans back to work. But the New Deal didn't restore employment. In fact, there was even less work on average during the New Deal than before FDR took office. Total hours worked per adult, including government employees, were 18% below their 1929 level between 1930-32, but were 23% lower on average during the New Deal (1933-39). Private hours worked were even lower after FDR took office, averaging 27% below their 1929 level, compared to 18% lower between in 1930-32.Even comparing hours worked at the end of 1930s to those at the beginning of FDR's presidency doesn't paint a picture of recovery. Total hours worked per adult in 1939 remained about 21% below their 1929 level, compared to a decline of 27% in 1933. And it wasn't just work that remained scarce during the New Deal. Per capita consumption did not recover at all, remaining 25% below its trend level throughout the New Deal, and per-capita nonresidential investment averaged about 60% below trend. The Great Depression clearly continued long after FDR took office.Why wasn't the Depression followed by a vigorous recovery, like every other cycle? It should have been. The economic fundamentals that drive all expansions were very favorable during the New Deal. Productivity grew very rapidly after 1933, the price level was stable, real interest rates were low, and liquidity was plentiful. We have calculated on the basis of just productivity growth that employment and investment should have been back to normal levels by 1936. Similarly, Nobel Laureate Robert Lucas and Leonard Rapping calculated on the basis of just expansionary Federal Reserve policy that the economy should have been back to normal by 1935.So what stopped a blockbuster recovery from ever starting? The New Deal. Some New Deal policies certainly benefited the economy by establishing a basic social safety net through Social Security and unemployment benefits, and by stabilizing the financial system through deposit insurance and the Securities Exchange Commission. But others violated the most basic economic principles by suppressing competition, and setting prices and wages in many sectors well above their normal levels. All told, these antimarket policies choked off powerful recovery forces that would have plausibly returned the economy back to trend by the mid-1930s.The most damaging policies were those at the heart of the recovery plan, including The National Industrial Recovery Act (NIRA), which tossed aside the nation's antitrust acts and permitted industries to collusively raise prices provided that they shared their newfound monopoly rents with workers by substantially raising wages well above underlying productivity growth. The NIRA covered over 500 industries, ranging from autos and steel, to ladies hosiery and poultry production. Each industry created a code of "fair competition" which spelled out what producers could and could not do, and which were designed to eliminate "excessive competition" that FDR believed to be the source of the Depression.These codes distorted the economy by artificially raising wages and prices, restricting output, and reducing productive capacity by placing quotas on industry investment in new plants and equipment. Following government approval of each industry code, industry prices and wages increased substantially, while prices and wages in sectors that weren't covered by the NIRA, such as agriculture, did not. We have calculated that manufacturing wages were as much as 25% above the level that would have prevailed without the New Deal. And while the artificially high wages created by the NIRA benefited the few that were fortunate to have a job in those industries, they significantly depressed production and employment, as the growth in wage costs far exceeded productivity growth.These policies continued even after the NIRA was declared unconstitutional in 1935. There was no antitrust activity after the NIRA, despite overwhelming FTC evidence of price-fixing and production limits in many industries, and the National Labor Relations Act of 1935 gave unions substantial collective-bargaining power. While not permitted under federal law, the sit-down strike, in which workers were occupied factories and shut down production, was tolerated by governors in a number of states and was used with great success against major employers, including General Motors in 1937.The downturn of 1937-38 was preceded by large wage hikes that pushed wages well above their NIRA levels, following the Supreme Court's 1937 decision that upheld the constitutionality of the National Labor Relations Act. These wage hikes led to further job loss, particularly in manufacturing. The "recession in a depression" thus was not the result of a reversal of New Deal policies, as argued by some, but rather a deepening of New Deal polices that raised wages even further above their competitive levels, and which further prevented the normal forces of supply and demand from restoring full employment. Our research indicates that New Deal labor and industrial policies prolonged the Depression by seven years.By the late 1930s, New Deal policies did begin to reverse, which coincided with the beginning of the recovery. In a 1938 speech, FDR acknowledged that the American economy had become a "concealed cartel system like Europe," which led the Justice Department to reinitiate antitrust prosecution. And union bargaining power was significantly reduced, first by the Supreme Court's ruling that the sit-down strike was illegal, and further reduced during World War II by the National War Labor Board (NWLB), in which large union wage settlements were limited by the NWLB to cost-of-living increases. The wartime economic boom reflected not only the enormous resource drain of military spending, but also the erosion of New Deal labor and industrial policies.In Today's Opinion JournalBy 1947, through a combination of NWLB wage restrictions and rapid productivity growth, we have calculated that the large gap between manufacturing wages and productivity that emerged during the New Deal had nearly been eliminated. And since that time, wages have never approached the severely distorted levels that prevailed under the New Deal, nor has the country suffered from such abysmally low employment.The main lesson we have learned from the New Deal is that wholesale government intervention can -- and does -- deliver the most unintended of consequences. This was true in the 1930s, when artificially high wages and prices kept us depressed for more than a decade, it was true in the 1970s when price controls were used to combat inflation but just produced shortages. It is true today, when poorly designed regulation produced a banking system that took on too much risk.President Barack Obama and Congress have a great opportunity to produce reforms that do return Americans to work, and that provide a foundation for sustained long-run economic growth and the opportunity for all Americans to succeed. These reforms should include very specific plans that update banking regulations and address a manufacturing sector in which several large industries -- including autos and steel -- are no longer internationally competitive. Tax reform that broadens rather than narrows the tax base and that increases incentives to work, save and invest is also needed. We must also confront an educational system that fails many of its constituents. A large fiscal stimulus plan that doesn't directly address the specific impediments that our economy faces is unlikely to achieve either the country's short-term or long-term goals.Mr. Cole is professor of economics at the University of Pennsylvania. Mr. Ohanian is professor of economics and director of the Ettinger Family Program in Macroeconomic Research at UCLA. Quote
Moksha Posted March 4, 2009 Report Posted March 4, 2009 Let's hope this post stays around long enough for Elphaba to look at. :) Quote
LittleWyvern Posted March 4, 2009 Report Posted March 4, 2009 Let's hope this post stays around long enough for Elphaba to look at.:)At the pace bytor is copy/paste-ing, she'll have quite a bit to look at. Quote
a-train Posted March 4, 2009 Report Posted March 4, 2009 It's true. The New Deal did far more harm than good. What is worse is those who claim WWII brought prosperity after the depression. The only thing that ever brings production is capitalization. Save and invest. That is the only true answer. -a-train Quote
Hemidakota Posted March 4, 2009 Report Posted March 4, 2009 Let's hope this post stays around long enough for Elphaba to look at.:)You beat me to the punch line but I am very patience person when it comes to prove it out in four years. Quote
Hemidakota Posted March 4, 2009 Report Posted March 4, 2009 It's true. The New Deal did far more harm than good. What is worse is those who claim WWII brought prosperity after the depression. The only thing that ever brings production is capitalization. Save and invest. That is the only true answer.-a-trainIt was told the economy of that era would only taken less than decade and half in correcting itself vice the usual government intervention. We are in a depression at this time, whether we accept it as facts or another SNOOPS Myth fact finding endorsement. Just remove the bailouts and see it for yourself.Excellent post bytor2112 Quote
bytor2112 Posted March 4, 2009 Author Report Posted March 4, 2009 Let's hope this post stays around long enough for Elphaba to look at.:)You could just pretend to be Elphaba and call me obtuse and call the article a straw man. Then copy and paste a few quotes that support your view point, rail about Bush, the Iraq war and mention poor people and finish with some kind of people uniting happy flourish or tongue in cheek sarcastic yet humorous comment and add a happy icon like and you got it.:) Quote
FunkyTown Posted March 4, 2009 Report Posted March 4, 2009 Err... Wait... So they're comparing to 1929?Look - I understand the argument against the New Deal, but this is a terrible piece.It wasn't until the end of 1929 that the stock market crashed and it takes months for that to affect the most changes in jobs. 1929 was a boom year.This is just generally a badly researched piece of tripe. I don't disagree with their conclusions, but their methodology is terrible. Of course the years after the stock market crash were worse than one of the most prosperous times in American history. That isn't rocket science. It's logic. Quote
Palerider Posted March 5, 2009 Report Posted March 5, 2009 I am hoping that one day all will stop talking about it and maybe just maybe....things might get almost rolling again....:) Quote
Hemidakota Posted March 5, 2009 Report Posted March 5, 2009 It won't....that is the pain of this problem. Quote
blusun7 Posted March 5, 2009 Report Posted March 5, 2009 Im telling you all it is done on purpose and we let it happen... Lets face it..we dont know whats going on or how to fix it..we are being duped. The economy will fail and civil war will break out. Its that simple.someday will be the beginning of the worst times. Quote
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