Do Mormons realize that baptism is never metioned in the Old Testament?


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Sefton, If you are really an atheist why are you concerned with anything in the Bible?

If you are looking for a religion, let us help you. But listen to what we're trying to tell you.

Maybe its time you doubted your doubts.

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:sing:

clang, clang, clang

went the trolley

ding, ding, ding

went the bell

zing, zing, zing

went my heartstrings

from the moment

i saw him, i fell

:sing:

Does anyone like singing show tunes? ;)

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The Old Testament does not have the word "baptism"It does have words with similar meanings, such as "rachatz", translated as ‘wash’, which

the Hebrew definition is a ‘moral cleansing’ (Isa. 1:16) also Isa. 48:1 (compare to 1 Nephi 20:1)

and in John 1:25, the Pharisees talked about it as if they were expecting the Messiah to baptize,

so it would have been a familiar ordinance in order to recognize it. See also Jer. 4:14, Ez. 36:25,

Zech. 13:1, J.S.T. of Mat. 9:18-21. Also, the Pharisees performed a form of baptism called

"miq-veh" in Hebrew, it was by immersion and cleansed sin. Christ refers to the "baptism of John" rather than simply to "baptism" (Matt 21:25) implying recognition of the concept by his hearers. This same language is repeated in Acts ("John's baptism -" Acts 19:3, also referred to as the "baptism of repentance.")

We read in the legends of the Jews that 2 days prior to the Lords revelation at Mount Sinai the ordinance

of baptism was imposed upon all the children of Israel. (The Legends of the Jews, 3:88)

"According to rabbinical teachings, which dominated even during the existence of the [Jerusalem]

Temple...baptism...was an absolutely necessary condition to be fulfilled by a proselyte to Judaism."

(Jewish Encyclopedia, 2:499)

Excellent post! Thank you Livy!

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:sing:

I could have danced all night!

I could have danced all night!

And still have begged for more.

I could have spread my wings

And done a thousand things I've never done before.

I'll never know What made it so exciting;

Why all at once My heart took flight. I only know when he

Began to dance with me I could have danced,

danced, danced all night!

:sing:

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Given that, at least in our religion, baptism symbolizes the death and resurrection of Christ, to me it seems to make sense that baptism as we know it today wasn't practiced under the Law of Moses. Perhaps the Law of Moses had a equivalent but different ceremony.

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You know what's even COOLER is that my brother looks like a turtle. And I CAN prove that. I welcome challenges on it. ;) Enjoy this discussion everyone, he's allllll yours!!!!

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Connie's got the right idea.

:sing:

Hear me now, oh thou bleak and unbearable world,

Thou art base, and debauched as can be.

And a knight, with his banners all bravely unfurled,

Now hurls down his gauntlet to thee!

(CHORUS)

I am I! Don Quixote! The Lord of La Mancha!

Destroyer of evil am I...

I will ride, ever onward

To the trumpets of glory

Forever to conquer or die.

Hear me heathens, and wizards, and serpents of sin-

All thy dastardly doings are past.

For a holy endeavor is now to begin,

And virtue shall triumph at last!

I am I! Don Quixote! The Lord of La Mancha!

My destiny calls and I go...

And the wild winds of fortune,

Shall carry me onward,

Oh wither soever they blow...

Onward, to glory, I go!

:sing:

I, Don Quixote, from the musical Man of La Mancha.

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