pam Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 And I prayer for a new Cadillac CTS. If there is one in my driveway - is that proof that God put it there? That reminds me of a song."I looked out the window and what did I see?A new cadillac on the driveway for me."Oh wait...wrong song. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prospectmom Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ok there is proof the God dosen't answer prayers always in the fact of all the horror in the world. Proof that he does.... is a belief that cannot be proven, it can be felt and believed but not proven and there is the crux of it. I forgot Snow started a thread with this from another so am moving my comments over ok :} Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prospectmom Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 (edited) Don't I get a Well Done Grasshopper???? Just kidding..... Snow I was reprimanded for putting this on the wrong thread so fogive me if it is repetitive Edited July 27, 2009 by prospectmom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gatorman Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 OKay, I am truly trying to understand Snow. You believe that because God may not or does not intercede in certain events, that we should not bother praying for it? My take is that, we pray for everything, with faith that Heavenly Father's will will be done. That means we ask for prayers for job interviews and blessings for a hang nail. Nothing is too small for prayer, regardless of whether Heavenly Father chooses or is able to answer that particular prayer. Prayer, in and of itself, is an excercise in faith. I dare say Heavenly Father would never tell us to not excercise our faith. Are you suggesting that there is ever a time when we waste Heavenly Father's or our own time by excercising our faith? Even in the slightest, tiniest action? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prospectmom Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 Snow never said not to pray I agree with your take I just also understand what he was saying . We have our belief's faith, or knowing but that is not proof it is a feeling. If there was proof than everyone would not question because there would be proof the church was true etc etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StallionMcBeastly Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 1. That, of course, is a completely unprovable supposition.2. Yep - I hear that all the time from non-LDS people of other religions who are certain that God informed them that their (non-LDS) faith is true and correct.I agree.And me too.All anyone can do is follow what they feel God wants them to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StallionMcBeastly Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 I always hear the phrase "God's will be done". Then I ask, what's the point in praying if no matter what God's will is done? If it's God's will for Bob to die of cancer, then no matter how much we pray he will die. If it's God's will he will live, then no matter if we pray or not he'll live. So then, are there situations where God lets things randomly play out unguided by his hand? Are these the situations that God will grant our prayerful desires - The situations where he has no will one way or the other? Or does he ALWAYS have a will? Something to think about! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moksha Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 We knew in the preexistence that life here on earth would not always be ice cream and lollipops. There would be some liver and onions along the way. Not just liver, but their foul tasting siblings black licorice and non-fresh coconut. Together, this unholy triune must be stopped!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dravin Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 Not just liver, but their foul tasting siblings black licorice and non-fresh coconut. Together, this unholy triune must be stopped!!!Because of the selfless person that I am I volunteer to deal with the black licorice you are forced to face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prospectmom Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 what a sacrifice I hope you decide to share with like minded pallets??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pam Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 Pmom are you saying that you are a stack of wood used to transport heavier objects? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beefche Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 Here is an excerpt from the Bible Dictionary on prayer: Prayer is the act by which the will of the Father and the will of the child are brought into correspondence with each other. The object of prayer is not to change the will of God, but to secure for ourselves and for others blessings that God is already willing to grant, but that are made conditional on our asking for them. Blessings require some work or effort on our part before we can obtain them. Prayer is a form of work, and is an appointed means for obtaining the highest of all blessings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dravin Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 (edited) I always hear the phrase "God's will be done".Then I ask, what's the point in praying if no matter what God's will is done?This is what the Bible Dictionary has to say about it:...The object of prayer is not to change the will of God, but to secure for ourselves and for others blessings that God is already willing to grant, but that are made conditional on our asking for them. Blessings require some work or effort on our part before we can obtain them. Prayer is a form of work, and is an appointed means for obtaining the highest of all blessings. ...Edit: I'm just too slow. :) Edited July 27, 2009 by Dravin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beefche Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 Copycat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StallionMcBeastly Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 Thanks you two Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dravin Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 Pmom are you saying that you are a stack of wood used to transport heavier objects? I always got the impression that she was the sturdy versatile type who is capable of bearing quite the burden. :)Copycat. They say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StallionMcBeastly Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 I always got the impression that she was the sturdy versatile type who is capable of bearing quite the burden. :)They say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.It is.You two should get together Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beefche Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 It is.You two should get togetherHe couldn't handle my tongue.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dravin Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 He couldn't handle my tongue....Probably not, I'm used to eating moose tongue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StallionMcBeastly Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 He couldn't handle my tongue....oh my Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StallionMcBeastly Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 Dravin, beefche is the one who should bear your children Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dravin Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 I suppose when I have my own kids I'm not opposed to letting her hold them at an LDS.net meet or something in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StallionMcBeastly Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 Of course she'll hold them - they'll be hers too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prospectmom Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 wow Pam you got me there........ I ran to the store and it hit me boy oh boy I hope no one notices I mispelt that word ..... good eye PAMMY Originally Posted by Dravin I always got the impression that she was the sturdy versatile type who is capable of bearing quite the burden. Thanks you gave my hubby a laugh he said, " thats you" when I told him what you said.... He also likes black licorace. thanks Pam, Stallion and Dravin you made it easy to laugh at myself. abd now it is known I spell badly sometimes :} Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StallionMcBeastly Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 We all have our weaknesses! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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