Lstinthwrld Posted August 21, 2009 Author Report Posted August 21, 2009 Word of Wisdom foods and eating habits.I am not familiar with this. What is this issue? Quote
Guest Believer_1829 Posted August 21, 2009 Report Posted August 21, 2009 This is my first experience on this site and having just read through this entire thread, I was expecting something very different here. I'm not sure I'm where I want to be.Where's the laugh button?? Yes, this site may be a little intense for some folks. Quote
Lstinthwrld Posted August 21, 2009 Author Report Posted August 21, 2009 This is my first experience on this site and having just read through this entire thread, I was expecting something very different here. I'm not sure I'm where I want to be.It for the most part is really good here. There are just a few who are really defensive and dont take the time to remember that by representing their faith on a LDS forum they are just that. Representatives of their faith.Through some of the conversations here I have learned a lot. Quote
Lstinthwrld Posted August 21, 2009 Author Report Posted August 21, 2009 Wait look at that! 100 posts senior member! WOO HOO!!! Quote
pam Posted August 21, 2009 Report Posted August 21, 2009 Well congratulations...you have now hit the big time. hahaha Quote
Guest Believer_1829 Posted August 21, 2009 Report Posted August 21, 2009 I am not familiar with this. What is this issue?The Word of Wisdom (aka no coffee, tea, alcohol, tobacco, etc...)but there is more to it, like what we should be eating and not eating...the subject can get pretty rousing sometimes... Quote
Lstinthwrld Posted August 21, 2009 Author Report Posted August 21, 2009 Where's the laugh button?? Yes, this site may be a little intense for some folks.I just noticed your avatar. That's cool. Quote
Lstinthwrld Posted August 21, 2009 Author Report Posted August 21, 2009 Well congratulations...you have now hit the big time. hahaha[/quoteThank you thank you (bows to the crowd) Quote
pam Posted August 21, 2009 Report Posted August 21, 2009 I am not familiar with this. What is this issue? If you have access (even online) to the Doctrine and Covenants, check out Section 89. It's pretty much a health code to live by. What to partake of and what not. Quote
Lstinthwrld Posted August 21, 2009 Author Report Posted August 21, 2009 The Word of Wisdom (aka no coffee, tea, alcohol, tobacco, etc...)but there is more to it, like what we should be eating and not eating...the subject can get pretty rousing sometimes...I would imagine so. especially to Americans who are not used to dietary restrictions unless self implemented. Quote
Lstinthwrld Posted August 21, 2009 Author Report Posted August 21, 2009 If you have access (even online) to the Doctrine and Covenants, check out Section 89. It's pretty much a health code to live by. What to partake of and what not.Does it give reasons? Quote
Lstinthwrld Posted August 21, 2009 Author Report Posted August 21, 2009 (edited) Was HF originally a man who Attained deification? If so he had a God he worshiped (and by implication still does? Does this open a door for a polytheistic/henotheistic debate? (I have talked to mormons off of the internet who admit yes this does and those who deny god ever had a god. So it runs the gamut. This is one of the issues that seems to me has one of the largest divides. Can anyone elaborate as to the confusion this topic causes? In most other forms of Christianity you have the common trinitarian belief and their is no room for interpretation. Why does there seem to be so much interpretive room in the LDS church? Edited August 21, 2009 by Lstinthwrld Quote
pam Posted August 21, 2009 Report Posted August 21, 2009 Why not read it first and then ask questions? I'm not trying to avoid answering your question but sometimes reading something and then asking about specifics is much more helpful. Quote
pam Posted August 21, 2009 Report Posted August 21, 2009 Was HF originally a man who Attained deification? If so he had a God he worshiped (and by implication still does? Does this open a door for a polytheistic/henotheistic debate? (I have talked to mormons off of the internet who admit yes this does and those who deny god ever had a god. So it runs the gamut.This is one of the issues that seems to me has one of the largest divides. Can anyone elaborate as to the confusion this topic causes?In most other forms of Christianity you have the common trinitarian belief and their is no room for interpretation. Why does there seem to be so much interpretive room in the LDS church? This is being discussed currently on another thread.http://www.lds.net/forums/lds-gospel-discussion/24877-lds-faith-monotheistic.html Quote
Lstinthwrld Posted August 21, 2009 Author Report Posted August 21, 2009 This is being discussed currently on another thread.http://www.lds.net/forums/lds-gospel-discussion/24877-lds-faith-monotheistic.htmlIts not so much the monotheistic henotheistic thing I am wondering about so much as why is there so much room to interpret it in the mormon church? Quote
Lstinthwrld Posted August 21, 2009 Author Report Posted August 21, 2009 Was HF originally a man who Attained deification? If so he had a God he worshiped (and by implication still does? Does this open a door for a polytheistic/henotheistic debate? (I have talked to mormons off of the internet who admit yes this does and those who deny god ever had a god. So it runs the gamut.This is one of the issues that seems to me has one of the largest divides. Can anyone elaborate as to the confusion this topic causes?In most other forms of Christianity you have the common trinitarian belief and their is no room for interpretation. Why does there seem to be so much interpretive room in the LDS church?Sorry about the confusion Pam. In bolds shows the point of this post not the old monotheistic 'debate' Quote
bytebear Posted August 21, 2009 Report Posted August 21, 2009 Its not so much the monotheistic henotheistic thing I am wondering about so much as why is there so much room to interpret it in the mormon church?Because we emphasize free agency, and studying and finding our own answers. Quote
Maxel Posted August 21, 2009 Report Posted August 21, 2009 All right, so the issue that has been presented is the Word of Wisdom. The question at hand is why do opinions differ among Mormons regarding it a few points of it- particularly the dietary restrictions.Doctrine and Covenants 89, also called the Word of Wisdom, was given to Joseph Smith "[a]s a consequence of the early brethren using tobacco in their meetings", and includes a condemnation of alcohol and tobaccor besides the dietary restrictions.Nowadays the Word of Wisdom is considered a commandment by the members and leaders of the Church, with particular emphasis on the members abstaining from alcohol and tobacco.To me, the Word of Wisdom is an example of a clear-cut commandment given from the Lord that the members in general are not ready to follow to its fullest extent, but are content to "strain at a gnat" concerning it. While caffeine is not strictly prohibited, it is an addictive substance. The modern prophets have expanded the word of wisdom to condemn the recreational use of all substances that have the possibility of creating dependencies.And that's as far as I can go tonight... I'm tired and I think it's beginning to show. I'll see where this thread has lead tomorrow. Quote
Justice Posted August 21, 2009 Report Posted August 21, 2009 I really don't think people understand the terms very well. :) Quote
Lstinthwrld Posted August 21, 2009 Author Report Posted August 21, 2009 All right, so the issue that has been presented is the Word of Wisdom. The question at hand is why do opinions differ among Mormons regarding it a few points of it- particularly the dietary restrictions.Doctrine and Covenants 89, also called the Word of Wisdom, was given to Joseph Smith "[a]s a consequence of the early brethren using tobacco in their meetings", and includes a condemnation of alcohol and tobaccor besides the dietary restrictions.Nowadays the Word of Wisdom is considered a commandment by the members and leaders of the Church, with particular emphasis on the members abstaining from alcohol and tobacco.To me, the Word of Wisdom is an example of a clear-cut commandment given from the Lord that the members in general are not ready to follow to its fullest extent, but are content to "strain at a gnat" concerning it. While caffeine is not strictly prohibited, it is an addictive substance. The modern prophets have expanded the word of wisdom to condemn the recreational use of all substances that have the possibility of creating dependencies.And that's as far as I can go tonight... I'm tired and I think it's beginning to show. I'll see where this thread has lead tomorrow.Me too. Quote
pam Posted August 21, 2009 Report Posted August 21, 2009 Sorry about the confusion Pam. In bolds shows the point of this post not the old monotheistic 'debate' I stand corrected. Quote
Moksha Posted August 21, 2009 Report Posted August 21, 2009 Justice, it would seem as though LDS doctrine actually teaches that Father, Son and Holy Ghost are not separate personages. 2 Nephi 26:12 says, "And as I spake concerning the convincing of the Jews, that Jesus is the very Christ, it must needs be that the Gentiles be convinced also that Jesus is the Christ, the ETERNAL GOD." And 2 Nephi 11:7 "For if there be no Christ there be not God; af if there be not God we are not, for there could have been no creation. But there is a God, and HE IS CHRIST, and he cometh in the fulness of his own time." Latte, the current understanding developed sometime after the Book of Mormon was written. When you have a living prophet then such understandings can become dynamic. Quote
john doe Posted August 21, 2009 Report Posted August 21, 2009 I think the same can be said for all of Christianity. Why are there so many interpretations of scripture that there are all these different denominations? Quote
FunkyTown Posted August 21, 2009 Report Posted August 21, 2009 Perhaps we could distinguish the core principles of the Gospel by what we sometimes refer to as The Milk and our eccentricities by what could be referred to as The Meat. That way we could have Mormon vegans and carnivores, yet still be understood by the outside world..Vegans don't drink Milk. On the other hand, you're right. There are some members who do nothing but concentrate on the core, never going beyond, and there are those who do nothing but read pseudo-doctrine.I'd call myself a Mormon Vegetarian. Quote
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