Maxel Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 (edited) Van Jones resigns amidst controversy. Edited September 8, 2009 by Maxel Removed inflammatory comment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john doe Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 Just another victim of the republican hate machine. I blame George Bush for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsAri Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 yahoo!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StallionMcBeastly Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 That's fantastic news! The dude is a RADICAL. My question is, how did he get anywhere near the President, let alone get appointed to a Government position? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jadams_4040 Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 Van Jones resigns amidst controversy. And leave it "fox news" to make sure everyone knows it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miztrniceguy Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 Is re related to Steven E. Jones B.S. in Physics, Mathematics minor, magna cum laude with honors, from Brigham Young University in 1973, retaining the Presidential (David O. McKay)Scholarship? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxel Posted September 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 And leave it "fox news" to make sure everyone knows it.Yes- rightfully so. Exposing Van Jones' radical views became a major issue for Beck- there's plenty of reason to suspect the advertiser boycott was started because of Beck's airing of Jones' Marxist ideals, and the two major controversial points- Jones calling Republicans a-holes and Jones signing the 9/11truthers petition- were both brought to light by Beck. Glenn Beck is also one of the biggest Fox News personalities; the resignation of Jones is a major triumph for the network (and all the freedom-loving people in the USA).Of course, no one is as concerned that Jones is an avowed Communist- but attack the Republicans and George Bush and it's game-over. Partisan politics makes me sick...By the way, Van Jones got close to Obama because Obama appointed him to the spot. The president's czars (technically called 'special advisors') aren't vetted by the FBI. I think it's safe to say that the reason Jones got so close to the president is because the president agrees with Jones' governmental ideology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john doe Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 And leave it "fox news" to make sure everyone knows it.Yeah, we wouldn't expect the Obama News Network (AKA ABC) to break this story would we? I'm sure they would like to sweep this story right under the rug if they can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moksha Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 Is he related to Steven E. Jones B.S. in Physics, Mathematics minor, magna cum laude with honors, from Brigham Young University in 1973, retaining the Presidential (David O. McKay)Scholarship? I was wondering that when I read about his belief in the "Truther" idea, that our own government was responsible for the 9/11 attack. The other side of this coin is that I know several political nuts, who despite their offbeat beliefs, are able to do their jobs admirably. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prisonchaplain Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 The other side of this coin is that I know several political nuts, who despite their offbeat beliefs, are able to do their jobs admirably. . REALLY??? Spill the beans! Which Republicans do you find able to do their jobs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StallionMcBeastly Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 Van Jones, Obama's "Green Czar", is a self avowed communist, Black nationalist, progressive radical, believes whites are poisoning minorities, thinks Capitalism is suicidal, wants to completely redistribute wealth, and plans to try to use the "Green" movement to completely change the country. Van Jones has made so many incredibly radical statements, it still perplexes me on how he was appointed to be the Green Jobs adviser? Especially after his statements saying he wants to use the Green movement to completely change the country. I used to think Obama really would play it down the middle, but after choosing a man like this to a government position... I'm starting to believe differently. Van Jones isn't the only Czar with radical progressive views, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxel Posted September 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 You're right, Stallion. I think part of the reason there was no outrage over Jones' appointment was that so few people knew of his views! It took Glenn Beck digging into his past to expose his views. And after Beck started doing that, there was a massive cleansing of Jones' figure- people making him seem like a true-blue capitalist.Ultimately, it's two (relatively) piddling things that make him resign (at least, that's what the official story is). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsAri Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 That's fantastic news! The dude is a RADICAL. My question is, how did he get anywhere near the President, let alone get appointed to a Government position?They're birds of a feather. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeuroTypical Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 And leave it "fox news" to make sure everyone knows it.I dunno about you folks, but when I notice I'm finding fault with someone for telling the truth, that's my red flag to take a good, hard look at myself and my priorities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john doe Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 Van Jones, Obama's "Green Czar", is a self avowed communist, Black nationalist, progressive radical, believes whites are poisoning minorities, thinks Capitalism is suicidal, wants to completely redistribute wealth, and plans to try to use the "Green" movement to completely change the country.Van Jones has made so many incredibly radical statements, it still perplexes me on how he was appointed to be the Green Jobs adviser? Especially after his statements saying he wants to use the Green movement to completely change the country. I used to think Obama really would play it down the middle, but after choosing a man like this to a government position... I'm starting to believe differently.Van Jones isn't the only Czar with radical progressive views, either. I'm sure they knew exactly who and what they were recruiting when they got him. They were just hoping A) no one would notice, and B) if someone noticed no one would make a big deal about it. The thing is, Van Jones fit perfectly with the people Obama has surrounded himself with for decades. Everyone knew who these people are and what their agendas are. Obama's people even said when they brought him on board that they had been watching and researching him for a long time and were excited to have him on the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 I dunno about you folks, but when I notice I'm finding fault with someone for telling the truth, that's my red flag to take a good, hard look at myself and my priorities.I'm going to make this bigger because I like it so much! This goes for both pro- and anti- administration in any political climate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxel Posted September 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 The other side of this coin is that I know several political nuts, who despite their offbeat beliefs, are able to do their jobs admirably.Yes- Jones, the self-avowed revolutionary Communist who has publicly stated that he's refining his revolutionary tactics and plannin to work from the inside out- only holds 'offbeat' beliefs. Just slightly out of the ordinary. Jus a tad to the left of center. Just a liiiiiiiiiiiiitle out there- not be much.The other czars, however, are perfectly normal in their ideologies and beliefs. I haven't met a person yet who doesn't think animals should be able to sue in court, or that it can be mathematically proven that the lives of the elderly are worth less then the lives of the younger generations, or that it's the role of the government to regulate population growth- even if it means putting sterilants in the water. These are all right-leaning ideas compared to the 'slightly offbeat beliefs' of Van Jones.By the way- what was Jones' job? Anyone know? What does it mean to be a 'Special Advisor' to the President? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James_Fryman Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 REALLY??? Spill the beans! Which Republicans do you find able to do their jobs? I actually find that most politicians are unable to do there job or are to lazy to finish what they started and they just throw it onto the next generation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StallionMcBeastly Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 I'm sure they knew exactly who and what they were recruiting when they got him. They were just hoping A) no one would notice, and B) if someone noticed no one would make a big deal about it. The thing is, Van Jones fit perfectly with the people Obama has surrounded himself with for decades. Everyone knew who these people are and what their agendas are. Obama's people even said when they brought him on board that they had been watching and researching him for a long time and were excited to have him on the team.I agree. I don't believe for a second they didn't know about his radical background. Does this mean Obama agrees with Jonesy's views? Obama did say to understand his policies, look to those he surrounds himself with. I don't know. We'll see.I'm starting to be more inclined to think that Obama indeed has radical beliefs, but tries to portray himself as a centrist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StallionMcBeastly Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 You're right, Stallion. I think part of the reason there was no outrage over Jones' appointment was that so few people knew of his views! It took Glenn Beck digging into his past to expose his views. And after Beck started doing that, there was a massive cleansing of Jones' figure- people making him seem like a true-blue capitalist.Ultimately, it's two (relatively) piddling things that make him resign (at least, that's what the official story is).What annoys me is that the story claims that he resigned because of his affiliation with the 9/11 Truthers and calling Republicans a-holes. The truth is he resigned because his radical views were being exposed! Why doesn't the media cover this? Why don't they inform us that Van Jones is an extreme radical?I haven't seen it reported this way, has anyone else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxel Posted September 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 (edited) It's Jones' strategy of dropping the radical pose to achieve radical ends. That is, put on the facade of a non-radical (like Obama being a centrist) until you're in power, then work like mad behind the scenes to change things in a shady manner so that the public doesn't see. In response to yourpost, Stallion: One major component of accomplishing that goal (of achieving radical change from the inside) is to silence the media. It's no real surprise that Van Jones' resignation came on a vacation weekend after midnight on Sunday morning. Instead of answering the basic questions about 'how come the White House didn't know about Jones' views', they simply let him resign. The mainstream media outlets are ideologically in line with Obama, however much they don't want to admit it. They're conspiring to hide the facts and let the public yell at each other over Obama's speech to K-12 graders. I fear that the government and its traditional watchdog- the free press- have jumped in bed together and are working together to overthrow the freedom of this country and its people. The more I learn about these recent events, the more I fear for the future of America. Edited September 8, 2009 by Maxel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bytebear Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 CNN is covering the term "Czar". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moksha Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 REALLY??? Spill the beans! Which Republicans do you find able to do their jobs? Every Republican in my ward who is not retired. They only tend to have problems in politics or finance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moksha Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 .By the way- what was Jones' job? Anyone know? What does it mean to be a 'Special Advisor' to the President? The article you posted said he was an advisor to the White House Council on Environmental Quality. Such a role usually means that the advisor condenses issues in the area to which they are advising into briefs for the President to read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miztrniceguy Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 advisers whisper into the ear of those they advise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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