Whats the diffrence from a sign seeker and someone who prays for a sighn..like to gain a testimoney

[lizzy12]

I have been reading latley in the scriptures and have come across lots about sign seekers. Whats the differnce form them and me who pray for a sign that will show gods love for me...

Is it just intent >

[Mute]

I have been reading latley in the scriptures and have come across lots about sign seekers. Whats the differnce form them and me who pray for a sign that will show gods love for me...

Is it just intent >

I don't know. God apparently doesn't see it as a bad thing to always ask for a sign though.

ISAIAH

CHAPTER 7

10 ¶ Moreover the Lord spake again unto Ahaz, saying,

11 Ask thee a sign of the Lord thy God; ask it either in the depth, or in the height above.

12 But Ahaz said, I will not ask, neither will I tempt the Lord.

13 And he said, Hear ye now, O house of David; Is it a small thing for you to weary men, but will ye weary my God also?

14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

[pam]

I think it depends on intent. If you say, I will only believe if you send me a sign, you aren't allowing faith to come into play.

President Benson said this of pride:

President Benson clarified the definition of pride for us: “The central feature of pride is enmity—enmity toward God and enmity toward our fellowmen. Enmity means hatred toward, hostility to, or a state of opposition. It is the power by which Satan wishes to reign over us. … Our enmity toward God takes on many labels, such as rebellion, hardheartedness, stiff-neckedness, unrepentant, puffed up, easily offended, and sign seekers. The proud wish God would agree with them. They aren’t interested in changing their opinions to agree with God’s

[Dravin]

I have been reading latley in the scriptures and have come across lots about sign seekers. Whats the differnce form them and me who pray for a sign that will show gods love for me...

Is it just intent >

Are you praying for a sign or are you praying to feel his love or otherwise come to know/receive a witness that he loves you?

You don't have to answer if you want, but in my mind it is different to ask, "Please help me feel your love." as opposed to "If you love me you'll make it snow tomorrow."

[lizzy12]

actually it was just an example...I'm not praying for ethier...I don't pray for "signs" I pray for things...like tests and such, my prayers are awnsered and thats to me a sign of gods love for me...I don't really need to pray for a sign..if it did that would be sighn seeking i think

[Seminarysnoozer]

Signs are also usually given with additional responsibility attached to them. When one is given a sign, like Joseph Smith, it is for greater purposes than that individuals testimony. In that, many are called but few are chosen. I think one has to remain worthy for that potential and then if chosen it will be given but know that there is added responsibility.

Side question; Are there any women that received signs that did not come through a man? (By 'signs' I'm not meaning a confirmation from the Holy Ghost but something physical like the golden plates, etc.)

[john doe]

Signs are given for the benefit of the believers.

[Blackmarch]

I have been reading latley in the scriptures and have come across lots about sign seekers. Whats the differnce form them and me who pray for a sign that will show gods love for me...

Is it just intent >

faith... and usually one is private and one is not.

[Vanhin]

In my opinion, the difference between sign seekers and those seeking a witness is faith.

Korihor, the antichrist, said to Alma, "If thou wilt show me a sign, that I may be convinced that there is a God, yea, show unto me that he hath power, and then will I be convinced of the truth of thy words." (Alma 30:43). On the other hand, Moroni taught, "And now, I, Moroni, would speak somewhat concerning these things; I would show unto the world that faith is things which are hoped for and not seen; wherefore, dispute not because ye see not, for ye receive no witness until after the trial of your faith." (Ether 12:6). There in lies the difference. Those seeking a witness from God, are willing to endure a trial of faith. This usually implies an act of obedience.

Regards,

Vanhin

[Blackmarch]

In my opinion, the difference between sign seekers and those seeking a witness is faith.

Korihor, the antichrist, said to Alma, "If thou wilt show me a sign, that I may be convinced that there is a God, yea, show unto me that he hath power, and then will I be convinced of the truth of thy words." (Alma 30:43). On the other hand, Moroni taught, "And now, I, Moroni, would speak somewhat concerning these things; I would show unto the world that faith is things which are hoped for and not seen; wherefore, dispute not because ye see not, for ye receive no witness until after the trial of your faith." (Ether 12:6). There in lies the difference. Those seeking a witness from God, are willing to endure a trial of faith. This usually implies an act of obedience.

Regards,

Vanhin

I must also add ( as well to my previous post), that you will still have the faith, even if you do not get a sign.

[Still_Small_Voice]

When I read your post I thought of something I had heard recently from the book Jesus The Christ by James Talmage on page 270:

The Master's lesson . . . fell on ears that were practically deaf to spiritual truth, and found no place in hearts already stuffed with great stores of evil. To the profound wisdom and saving instruction of the word of God to which they had listened, they responded with a flippant request: "Master, we would see a sign from thee." Had they not already seen signs in profusion? Had not the blind and the deaf, the dumb and the infirm, the palsied and the dropsical, and people afflicted with all manner of diseases, been healed in their houses, on their streets, and in their synagogs; had not devils been cast out and their foul utterances been silenced by His word; and had not the dead been raised, and all by Him whom they now importuned for a sign? They would have some surpassing wonder wrought, to satisfy curiosity, or perhaps to afford them further excuse for action against Him—they wanted signs to waste on their lust. Small wonder, that "he sighed deeply in his spirit" when such demands were made.

I, in the past, asked for signs to confirm my testimony. I prayed for years for something before I received an answer. If you are not asking for a sign to satisfy curiosity or to consume it on waste then I do not think it is bad to ask for a sign to strengthen your faith.

[annamaureen]

In my opinion, a sign seeker is like, "You better do this for me! You better prove your love/existence/etc by showing me! I'm not going to believe a thing unless you do!" Someone praying for a sign is asking for God to increase their testimony and give comfort and spiritual strength.