Saguaro Posted May 18, 2010 Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 This was on the front page of my newspaper this morning.Arizona immigration law fallout harms LDS Church outreachI'm not a fan of Russell Pearce, but it's too bad that one person can be perceived to represent the entire church. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
applepansy Posted May 18, 2010 Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 (edited) "I decided I did not want to expose my kids to a religion that has members that hate other people because they are different," Corral said. (the article says he's catholic) Like there aren't Catholics who hate other people because they are different???? I was under the impression that Arizona's law was about illegal immigration, not hate. Edited May 18, 2010 by applepansy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saguaro Posted May 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 Read more: Arizona immigration law fallout harms LDS Church outreachUmmm, isn't that the same article I posted? Ever heard the term "smeek"? Urban Dictionary: smeek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
applepansy Posted May 18, 2010 Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 sorry. no I haven't. And I didn't deliberately add the link. It just sort of popped up there! fixed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saguaro Posted May 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 sorry. no I haven't. And I didn't deliberately add the link. It just sort of popped up Weird, is that some kind of automated thing here at lds.net? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingnut Posted May 18, 2010 Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 She probably highlighted a quote from the article, pasted it here, and there was code embedded in it that linked back to the article. I've had that happen to me elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew0059 Posted May 18, 2010 Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 Wow. I've never seen such a biased and stupid article. Well, maybe in the Onion somewhere... People hating the Church because of the actions of individual members is as old as Joseph Smith, Jr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarginOfError Posted May 18, 2010 Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 It's human nature. I see it all the time. Most recently, I saw a woman have a crisis of faith because of Glen Beck's statements about social justice. "How could a mormon believe that?" She seemed okay with it when I explained the disconnect between religion and politics. But for a while, she struggled with the idea that if a member of the Church was saying it, shouldn't it be right? It can be very hard for people to separate others' political beliefs from their religious beliefs, largely because we tend to assume that a person's religious beliefs drive their political beliefs (a dangerous assumption, if you ask me). That kind of a crisis of faith isn't entirely uncommon either. During the 2008 campaign, the attendance of black members of our ward trailed off as the election grew nearer and the transplants from Utah became more chatty about politics in the halls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just_A_Guy Posted May 18, 2010 Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 (edited) From the article:"The husband of a woman (at her church) is not letting her go back to the church because he knows a Mormon made this law," Castañeda said.Of course, the problem isn't a culture where it's entirely acceptable for a husband to control his wife like this. The problem--as always--is the Mormons.I'm not very familiar with the Arizona Republic, but from the few Mormon-themed stories I've read on its website it seems like the Arizona equivalent of the Salt Lake Tribune. Edited May 18, 2010 by Just_A_Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemidakota Posted May 19, 2010 Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 It is about taking back your borders. Texas and New Mexico are now looking into the same passage of law. Texas is the state I really feel sorry for since it is next to the world's number one murderous city - lying across the border. Since the beginning of this year, there is now over 2,000 murders just in city. Now, if we can send the Marines to the border and allowed to operate without government interference, how many of those drug and human traffickers will dare to cross. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADoyle90815 Posted May 19, 2010 Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 Immigration is a big campaign issue for California's race for governor as well, and at least one candidate had said something about sending the National Guard to patrol the border. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemidakota Posted May 19, 2010 Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 Hopefully that was not from our 'two-edge mouth', Meg W.' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiJolly Posted May 19, 2010 Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 Now, if we can send the Marines to the border and allowed to operate without government interference, how many of those drug and human traffickers will dare to cross. Hate to say it, but putting Marines on the border IS "government interference". But in this case, it's constitutional to protect our borders, so I'm OK with it!!! HiJolly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemidakota Posted May 19, 2010 Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 Hate to say it, but putting Marines on the border IS "government interference". HiJollyMaybe someone should say to the Mexican government on its southern border. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLC2002GOLD Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 · Hidden Hidden This was on the front page of my newspaper this morning.Arizona immigration law fallout harms LDS Church outreachI'm not a fan of Russell Pearce, but it's too bad that one person can be perceived to represent the entire church.This article is actually laughable. I lived through the era when Elder Ezra Taft Benson was the reason many refused to join the Church.I lived through an era when it was the Church's stance on the so-called Equal rights amendment that was impeding our Missionaries ability to make conversions.I've lived through Proposition 22 and Proposition 8 as the reason our Church is going to Hell in a fast car.Alas, President Benson is in Heaven, the ERA is dead, and Prop 8 is history...YET, the Church is still here, still growing, still thriving.Come on folks, let's place our faith in our Lord and Savior...and not the pages of the Arizona Republic. Link to comment
SLC2002GOLD Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 · Hidden Hidden It's human nature. I see it all the time. Most recently, I saw a woman have a crisis of faith because of Glen Beck's statements about social justice. "How could a mormon believe that?" She seemed okay with it when I explained the disconnect between religion and politics. But for a while, she struggled with the idea that if a member of the Church was saying it, shouldn't it be right? It can be very hard for people to separate others' political beliefs from their religious beliefs, largely because we tend to assume that a person's religious beliefs drive their political beliefs (a dangerous assumption, if you ask me).That kind of a crisis of faith isn't entirely uncommon either. During the 2008 campaign, the attendance of black members of our ward trailed off as the election grew nearer and the transplants from Utah became more chatty about politics in the halls.Was this over Prop 1? Link to comment
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