Bob_oz Posted June 18, 2006 Report Posted June 18, 2006 I really enjoyed some of the comments here, “a more important lesson to learn from this would be to speak nicely to people” is a pearl from Shanstress “Soulsearcher said: My point is that it's the spirit that needs to change not the word usage”. Outstanding because as the spirit changes so does the word usage Our society seems to be lazy and use swearing where they are unable to express themselves in English, young people seem unable to put a sentence together without the F word in public but there again some of that is an intent to offend or be seen as big people – I have yet to understand that logic! The most vulgar of swearing seems to now be accepted and by that I mean in law. There is also an element of different words meaning different things to either different people, USA and Australia and changed meaning over time, for example in my day the word “stuffed” was a watered down F word (depending on context of course) but my children say it has nothing to do with the F word and its not that bad! The key I feel is a desire to improve self, if we want to do that we are actively moving away from anything that is regarded as swearing. We develop self control in all situations, or as Soulsearcher says we change the spirit, we know our language and care how we use it and as Shanstress says “we talk nicely” to each other. Did the Lord curse the chair he kick in the dark? I don’t think so, and regarding the Temple instant, “rebuked in very strong terms” does NOT mean the Lord was swearing at them, I can say: you fiends of the eternal pit and that would be strong words for any Christian or I could add some swearing to highlight my comment and all that does is demonstrate my lack of control, The Lord didn’t swear and that is our goal too. Bob Quote
boyando Posted June 18, 2006 Report Posted June 18, 2006 I had a problem with swearing. I stopped swearing around my wife and then I stopped. Most of the time I don't think you should marry a guy and then change him. I would worry more about his friends. Allmosthumble Quote
Guest ApostleKnight Posted June 18, 2006 Report Posted June 18, 2006 Ah! But Jesus rebuked the money lenders...they deserved to be rebuked in very strong terms...Some times, strong hard words are neccesary.Um, I sorta agree, but let's review the "strong, hard words" Jesus used in Matthew 21:13"And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves."So in "telling them off," Jesus quoted scripture. Again, he's the ultimate example. If only more people would quote scripture when they are upset, instead of swearing! Righteous rebuking has nothing to do with swearing. I don't think this example is useful. Quote
prisonchaplain Posted June 19, 2006 Report Posted June 19, 2006 This all reminds me of what youth leaders call "Christian swearing." Using words like gosh, geez, dang, heck, etc. were all wrong, because "You know what you meant in your heart." IMHO, using the Lord's name in vain is a sin to be avoided at all costs. Not calling others "fool," and thus being in danger of hellfire. Not speaking in a manner that is beneath a child of God. I could continue down the degression from extremely dangerous to mildy unworthy verbal sins, but my bottom-line is that much that we Christians call "cursing" is really just mildly offensive and uncouth communication, whereas the truly offensive use of the Lord's name, or the Son's name barely registers on our outrage meters. Quote
wolfjingles Posted June 21, 2006 Report Posted June 21, 2006 Good point on that I used to use the lords name and the sons name in vain all the time and never once thougth about the efects of it then one day someone got really mad at me about the language i was using. I now feel the same way if someone needs to use inapropriate wording then they need to know that there are consequences to it to. If we are tought to love one another then there should be nothing said in anger and hate any way it should only be words of kindness and yes there are times when you need to raise your voice to explain and to teach and to get your point accross but remember to do it lovingly and with out anger and hate in your voice, because some times it is not what you say but how you say it. The way you talk and the words you say affect more then just you, It brought me back to the movie bambi if you cant say anything nice dont say anything at all Quote
sgallan Posted June 21, 2006 Report Posted June 21, 2006 Ya know, other than than the obvious religious edict of using gods name in vain - and I don't to be polite - I have a hard time finding anything biblical against anything in english that people might consider profane. And it can get rather silly..... I have a p ussy cat. Cock fighting is illegal. I live near Parker Dam. D ick is a nickname for Richard. Need I go on. Quote
Lindy Posted June 21, 2006 Report Posted June 21, 2006 Wolfjingles, I agree with you regarding swearing around children, I've heard children as young as 3 or 4 copying parents, siblings and friends' of same swearing, and it's really terrible. Never fails to shock me. I don't tend to swear very often, in fact people notice that about me, but I do tend to say 'oh shoot!' if I stub my toe, occasionally if it really hurts and shocks me the proper word slips out, and even the F word occasionally...but I don't use it in everyday conversation and don't really like to hear women use it...I admit it, I'm a bit of a sexist when it comes to bad language!!! I think my son-in-law got a reality check when his 3 year old came into the room and asked "where the f*** is my cuddle bear?" She had no idea what she was saying.... and my daughter looked at him and said...."that's all you" and he has taken to thinking more now before he swears in front of the children. And when he does.... he tends to apologize to them for saying a bad word. And Pushka... I had to laugh.... I normally don't swear myself... but I have a friend who just kept pushing me and pushing me on something...and I let go. I am sure he realized how ticked I was when I said THAT word. LOL.... I usually don't get that angry... and I dont' think I apologized.... And I think I'm a sexist right alongside of you with the bad language thing..... I spent many years with military "brothers" so I was used to it.... and a woman saying the same things in their everyday vocabulary ..... was just sick and wrong Quote
pushka Posted June 21, 2006 Report Posted June 21, 2006 Phewee...glad I'm not the only 'sexist' around here!!! LOL :) Quote
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