Blackmarch Posted May 21, 2011 Report Share Posted May 21, 2011 (edited) I think a lot of people* hear that it's produced by the South Park guys, and that's all they* hear, so they* assume it's complete trash.*"people" and "they" refer to Church members.My first assumptions is that its going to have too much trash for me to be worth going and seeing. Trash meaning extremely foul language. I believe my assumption in this case has been borne out.I think it was their Make love, not Warcraft episode that surprised me; in that it did not have their usual level bad language in it. That one me rolling on the ground.will the show be good?I'm pretty sure it will do a lot more good than the one that depicted Christ as being homosexual.will i go see it any time soon? nowill i get quotes from it sooner or later to use? probably Edited May 21, 2011 by Blackmarch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzie Posted May 21, 2011 Report Share Posted May 21, 2011 It's funny. Most people posting on this thread didn't watch the Musical yet some are ready to tear off their clothes and shout blasphemy? Geez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dravin Posted May 21, 2011 Report Share Posted May 21, 2011 (edited) It's funny. Most people posting on this thread didn't watch the Musical yet some are ready to tear off their clothes and shout blasphemy? Geez.There are reviews, considering some of the information out there about what it does contain making a decision based on that information is not uncalled for. Or if someone read a review about a movie and said, "I don't want to go see it, it contains profanity" would you roll your eyes at them? I still disagree with some of the hyperbole, but based on this thread ( http://www.lds.net/forums/current-events/39153-really-good.html ) I don't think deciding it contains blasphemous elements and that one doesn't want to go see it is really unreasonable.Or is it the hyperbole and outrage that you are rolling eyes at? If they had in fact went to it (and presumably walked out of it) would you then find it palatable? Edited May 21, 2011 by Dravin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzie Posted May 21, 2011 Report Share Posted May 21, 2011 There are reviews. I think anyone simply complaining based on the idea that it pokes fun of Mormons is off base, but considering some of the information out there about what it does contain making a decision based on that information is not uncalled for.Well, Dravin...reviews are reviews. Great shows get TERRIBLE reviews and TERRIBLE shows get great reviews. Not a good measurement IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dravin Posted May 21, 2011 Report Share Posted May 21, 2011 (edited) Well, Dravin...reviews are reviews. Great shows get TERRIBLE reviews and TERRIBLE shows get great reviews. Not a good measurement IMO.You are accusing the reviews of containing categorically false information? We're not talking about if it's an entertaining show or not, we're talking about if it contains a song on a certain topic or containing certain lyrics. If someone read a review on a pornographic movie (unawares of the nature of the show) and the review talked about how it contained multiple sex acts concluding that the movie contains multiple sex acts is unreasonable?I'm gonna write a short review (looks around desk) of the Company of Heroes Gold box, the back cover."It contains the phrase, "Fight Epic D-Day battles alongside Able Company."Is this review, assuming you don't have reason to assume I'm lying, an acceptable measurement for concluding if the box has the phrase "Fight Epic D-Day battles alongside Able Company" on it? A review I've read mentioned that one song consists of saying "F" God, and ends with "F" God in the (reference to female genitalia). It's unreasonable to conclude that the musical has a song with those lyrics in it? Edited May 21, 2011 by Dravin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzie Posted May 21, 2011 Report Share Posted May 21, 2011 What I am saying basically is that I haven't seen it, I am not going to say a whole bunch of stuff about something I didn't personally watch but just read about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dravin Posted May 21, 2011 Report Share Posted May 21, 2011 (edited) What I am saying basically is that I haven't seen it, I am not going to say a whole bunch of stuff about something I didn't personally watch but just read about.So if I handed you a pornographic movie, along with a review that contains a listing of all the sex acts performed in the movie, you would insist on watching it before concluding that it contains objectionable material?If not, your position is more nuanced than that. Edited May 21, 2011 by Dravin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzie Posted May 21, 2011 Report Share Posted May 21, 2011 So if I handed you a pornographic movie would you insist on watching it before concluding that it contains objectionable material? We'll say it's just a burnt CD, nothing on the case, but I handed you a review from a website that reviews such things listing all the acts that takes place in the movie?I won't insist in watching it. Why should I? However, I won't be going around saying it contains this or that if I didn't watch it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vort Posted May 21, 2011 Report Share Posted May 21, 2011 What I am saying basically is that I haven't seen it, I am not going to say a whole bunch of stuff about something I didn't personally watch but just read about.What did you think of the classic X-rated porn flicks Deep Throat and Debbie Does Dallas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzie Posted May 21, 2011 Report Share Posted May 21, 2011 What did you think of the classic X-rated porn flicks Deep Throat and Debbie Does Dallas?It seems like you know the titles and all...Sorry, never heard of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vort Posted May 21, 2011 Report Share Posted May 21, 2011 It seems like you know the titles and all...Yes, I do.Sorry, never heard of them.Please go watch them, and then tell me what you think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dravin Posted May 21, 2011 Report Share Posted May 21, 2011 (edited) I won't insist in watching it. Why should I? However, I won't be going around saying it contains this or that if I didn't watch it.Tell me, what is the subject of the Book of Mormon Musical? Does it feature Mormon Missionaries? Is it on Broadway? Have you personally observed the plot and the location of the show? After seeing a detailed almanac would you be willing to say that Alaska contains the town of Bethel? Have you personally seen Bethel? Edited May 21, 2011 by Dravin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzie Posted May 21, 2011 Report Share Posted May 21, 2011 Yes, I do.Please go watch them, and then tell me what you think.Why do you need ME to tell you that? (odd) Go and watch them yourself if you are interested. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzie Posted May 21, 2011 Report Share Posted May 21, 2011 Tell me, what is the subject of the Book of Mormon Musical? Does it feature Mormon Missionaries? On a more amusing extension you must hate the news networks, how could they report that Osama Bin Laden was dead without having personally seen the body? I also take it that you would not say that Alaska contains the City of Fairbanks without having seen it. Even after me, having lived there for over a decade, told you that the City of Fairbanks is indeed in the State of Alaska.Okay Dravin, what exactly is the problem? Why should I be like most and say the Musical is crap if I never watched it? Is it because it deals with Mormons? It doesn't matter to me, I don't believe in doing that . When/If I watch it, I would give my review. Nothing more to say on my part because mixing up porn, Alaska and Bin Laden doesn't add to the equation to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vort Posted May 21, 2011 Report Share Posted May 21, 2011 Why do you need ME to tell you that? (odd) Go and watch them yourself if you are interested. lolThey're very funny and sophisticated. Go watch them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dravin Posted May 21, 2011 Report Share Posted May 21, 2011 (edited) Okay Dravin, what exactly is the problem?The problem is you are mocking people for accepting the reports of others. Have you personally observed oppression of women in Pakistan or some such? Something tells me that despite that you'd have no problem stating, based on the reports of others, first hand witnesses in cases, that said nation contains oppression of women. So basically the problem is you are mocking others (your eye rolling) for something you yourself do, you just aren't doing it here as it pertains to one particular subject. Why should I be like most and say the Musical is crap if I never watched it? Is it because it deals with Mormons? It doesn't matter to me, I don't believe in doing that .Considering the extreme unlikelihood of you personally verifying every scrap of information you've ever made a decision base in part or in whole on I find it highly unlikely you don't believe in doing such. Your position really does boil down to, "If I've not seen Lichtenstein for myself it is unreasonable to read a map of Europe and state that Europe contains that country."I don't demand or expect you to agree that the musical is blasphemous. Just not roll your eyes at people who dare believe a report of content.Nothing more to say on my part because mixing up porn, Alaska and Bin Laden doesn't add to the equation to me.They are all things that one has (presumably) not confirmed personally (aka seen themselves) yet I doubt you'd take issue with people for believing President Obama about OBL, a review that Debbie Does Dallas contains sex acts, or believing the information found on an atlas that Alaska contains the town of Bethel. Edited May 21, 2011 by Dravin Vort 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayne Posted May 22, 2011 Report Share Posted May 22, 2011 I won't insist in watching it. Why should I? However, I won't be going around saying it contains this or that if I didn't watch it.no but one can assume since its porn....more or less this is in it and should be avoided.honestly you dont need to see every movie to get an idea of what it is about.me this musical i wouldnt doubt it like all other mormon parodies...likely headache inducing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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