Question

[sharyll]

I have been reading some literature on the lds.org website specifically about being an LDS Woman. My question is the text I am reading has scripture to look at and read. I can find most of them either in my Book of Mormon or online. I have not been able to find Doctrinal Principals. I was wondering what is it and where can I find it. Is it okay for me to see as a non LDS member?

Sharyl

[Yokomsa]

I have been reading some literature on the lds.org website specifically about being an LDS Woman. My question is the text I am reading has scripture to look at and read. I can find most of them either in my Book of Mormon or online. I have not been able to find Doctrinal Principals. I was wondering what is it and where can I find it. Is it okay for me to see as a non LDS member?

Sharyl

Hi Sharyl!

I am a little lost as what you are looking for about being an LDS woman? Are you looking for what our role as women in the Church is or what duties we can assume responsibility for.

To further your quest for knowledge, would it be possible for you to be a little more specific?

Thanks

[Nicole]

hello there!

and welcome i hope i can help you out just pm me if u ever need to talk your more then welcome too!! oh Yes of course you can look and read the stuff anyone can not just members of the church

ok i think you are talking out heres the link for the Gospel Principles its the Basic doctrine of the latter day saint church http://www.lds.org/library/display/0,4945,11-1-13-1,00.html

ok there are lots of online church books on this site that has links and u can read nearly all of the church books online http://www.schoolofabraham.com/scripturestudy.htm

ok hun you can get a Free book of mormon and a free Bible and also u can get a few free diffrent church Dvds aswell so thats cool i will give you the links for them

bible

http://www.mormon.org/ecard/create.jsp

book of mormon

http://www.mormon.org/ecard/create.jsp

Dvd http://www.mormon.org/ecard/create.jsp

http://www.mormon.org/ecard/create.jsp

another Dvd you can get about 7 dvds for free

also we have all of our Scriptures online aswell at http://scriptures.lds.org/

[sharyll]

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I have been reading some literature on the lds.org website specifically about being an LDS Woman. My question is the text I am reading has scripture to look at and read. I can find most of them either in my Book of Mormon or online. I have not been able to find Doctrinal Principals. I was wondering what is it and where can I find it. Is it okay for me to see as a non LDS member?

Sharyl

Hi Sharyl!

I am a little lost as what you are looking for about being an LDS woman? Are you looking for what our role as women in the Church is or what duties we can assume responsibility for.

To further your quest for knowledge, would it be possible for you to be a little more specific?

Thanks

I am currently reading the Latter Day Saints Woman Manual A. In there it talks about reading the gospel principals and gives chapters. I have not been able to find that so I am asking what is it. Thanks for your help though

[BenRaines]

Gospel Principles is a Sunday School manual for investigators or new converts. You should find it under the Sunday School Manual section of church materials.

Ben Raines

[sharyll]

Gospel Principles is a Sunday School manual for investigators or new converts. You should find it under the Sunday School Manual section of church materials.

Ben Raines

Thank you Ben! I found it online. That should help a lot. I appreciate your support. I appreciate everyone's prayers as I continue to search on whether this is truth for me. I ask for prayers for my husband's heart to soften as well and be willing to attend church when he comes home from sea very soon. Thanks again for this forums support.

Sharyl Lee

[Brother Dorsey]

I appreciate everyone's prayers as I continue to search on whether this is truth for me. I ask for prayers for my husband's heart to soften as well and be willing to attend church when he comes home from sea very soon. Thanks again for this forums support.

Sharyl Lee

Sharyl...My wife and I will keep you and your husband in our prayers.....I hope the Spirit touches you that you may come to know the truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.....when it happens you will not believe the joy and happiness it will bring you as you learn of where you came from, why you are here and where you can go....you will come to understand just how much the Lord loves you and his plan is so simple and easy to understand....everything you learn will fit into the puzzle and testify to you that the Lords church has been restored. And the day will come when you and your husband will kneel across the alter of the Temple of the Lord and be sealed for all time and eternity....what a glorious gift that really is.....God bless you on your quest....He will be with you all the way!

[lisajo]

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I appreciate everyone's prayers as I continue to search on whether this is truth for me. I ask for prayers for my husband's heart to soften as well and be willing to attend church when he comes home from sea very soon. Thanks again for this forums support.

Sharyl Lee

Sharyl...My wife and I will keep you and your husband in our prayers.....I hope the Spirit touches you that you may come to know the truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.....when it happens you will not believe the joy and happiness it will bring you as you learn of where you came from, why you are here and where you can go....you will come to understand just how much the Lord loves you and his plan is so simple and easy to understand....everything you learn will fit into the puzzle and testify to you that the Lords church has been restored. And the day will come when you and your husband will kneel across the alter of the Temple of the Lord and be sealed for all time and eternity....what a glorious gift that really is.....God bless you on your quest....He will be with you all the way!

AHHHHHHHHHH Brother D. I am starting to think i am liking you a little more everyday, this is the side i like to see

[Brother Dorsey]

AHHHHHHHHHH Brother D. I am starting to think i am liking you a little more everyday, this is the side i like to see

Well, thanks LisaJo....I was rather rude to begin with until I was put in my place.....lol.

PS: I deserved it!

[boyando]

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Gospel Principles is a Sunday School manual for investigators or new converts. You should find it under the Sunday School Manual section of church materials.

Ben Raines

Thank you Ben! I found it online. That should help a lot. I appreciate your support. I appreciate everyone's prayers as I continue to search on whether this is truth for me. I ask for prayers for my husband's heart to soften as well and be willing to attend church when he comes home from sea very soon. Thanks again for this forums support.

Sharyl Lee

Sharyl:

If your husband is in the Navy, tell him thanks, from some dumb old man that you met on the internet (that would be me). And thank you for what you do for this country.

[inthearmsofsleep]

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I appreciate everyone's prayers as I continue to search on whether this is truth for me. I ask for prayers for my husband's heart to soften as well and be willing to attend church when he comes home from sea very soon. Thanks again for this forums support.

Sharyl Lee

Sharyl...My wife and I will keep you and your husband in our prayers.....I hope the Spirit touches you that you may come to know the truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.....when it happens you will not believe the joy and happiness it will bring you as you learn of where you came from, why you are here and where you can go....you will come to understand just how much the Lord loves you and his plan is so simple and easy to understand....everything you learn will fit into the puzzle and testify to you that the Lords church has been restored. And the day will come when you and your husband will kneel across the alter of the Temple of the Lord and be sealed for all time and eternity....what a glorious gift that really is.....God bless you on your quest....He will be with you all the way!

I don't know why, but that really touched me. Thanks for that : )

[sharyll]

I do appreciate your prayers. Since I mailed my husband the letter telling him about my search and findings about LDS church he has not written. I was upfront about how I felt and what I saw was very much like what we believe. I told him where I struggle since the doctrine is very different from what I was raised with as a prodestant christian. He has very set ideas about "mormonism" and has a very negative attitude. I have been very fearful about how he was going to react and I can tell you that he is very angry because I have received no emails from him in a couple of weeks and his last letter was short and to the point. He definately is upset. I am not sure what will happen when he comes home shortly. I am very worried about that and would appreciate prayers as he and I will hopefully discuss this. I pray he won't be closed off and will be more open but fear he won't be and this might cause great problems in our already frail marriage. I appreciate your prayers and support.

Sharyl

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I appreciate everyone's prayers as I continue to search on whether this is truth for me. I ask for prayers for my husband's heart to soften as well and be willing to attend church when he comes home from sea very soon. Thanks again for this forums support.

Sharyl Lee

Sharyl...My wife and I will keep you and your husband in our prayers.....I hope the Spirit touches you that you may come to know the truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.....when it happens you will not believe the joy and happiness it will bring you as you learn of where you came from, why you are here and where you can go....you will come to understand just how much the Lord loves you and his plan is so simple and easy to understand....everything you learn will fit into the puzzle and testify to you that the Lords church has been restored. And the day will come when you and your husband will kneel across the alter of the Temple of the Lord and be sealed for all time and eternity....what a glorious gift that really is.....God bless you on your quest....He will be with you all the way!

I don't know why, but that really touched me. Thanks for that : )

[boyando]

Sharyll:

There is no way that I can put into words, how much my heart aches for you and your situation.

I have seen, first hand how sending a spouse to sea can be rough on a marrage. You add to the fact that your husband can not feel the things that you do, because he is not there with you, your situration is made worse. I can only say-hold on.

We will continue to pray for you and hopefully give you words of comfort. Your Friend - allmosthumble

[Brother Dorsey]

I do appreciate your prayers. Since I mailed my husband the letter telling him about my search and findings about LDS church he has not written. I was upfront about how I felt and what I saw was very much like what we believe. I told him where I struggle since the doctrine is very different from what I was raised with as a prodestant christian. He has very set ideas about "mormonism" and has a very negative attitude. I have been very fearful about how he was going to react and I can tell you that he is very angry because I have received no emails from him in a couple of weeks and his last letter was short and to the point. He definately is upset. I am not sure what will happen when he comes home shortly. I am very worried about that and would appreciate prayers as he and I will hopefully discuss this. I pray he won't be closed off and will be more open but fear he won't be and this might cause great problems in our already frail marriage. I appreciate your prayers and support.

Sharyl.....Just remember, the Lord loves you and your husband very much......and I am quite sure your husband loves you and misses you very much. As the time draws nearer for him to come home I am sure the Lord will soften his heart as he will realize just what is important to him, namely you. Be his wife, be his companion, love him and talk softly, he will listen. Open up your heart to him....but make sure you do not make him feel left out of your feelings. Continue to pursue the truth, be an example to him of Christs love, be patient and the Lord will provide. Before my wife decided to join the church we had been married for 5 years and our marriage was also rocky, we felt as though we were just spinning our wheels. I knew it could be so much better with the Gospel in both our lives. But, I did not push her, I did not judge....it was something I had to let her have a desire to learn. I answered all the questions she asked me about the church as best I could and when I couldn't answer them I always told her that the missionaries would know and I could call them....she laughs about that now. During this time I was an example to her, I went to church every Sunday, home taught my familys, did service work and my calling in the church and went to ward social events (sometimes her and the kids went too). Eventually it was the Lords will that softened her heart to want to understand why I was faithful to the church and she started to be more receptive to learning....she took the discussions and was baptized...a year later we went to the Temple together and were sealed for all eternity. Our marriage is a total joy now! So, don't give up, don't stop learning about the Gospel and restored church.....and give it time, for the Lord will bless you and your husband for your faith as he did me and my wife. May the Lord bless you with all you stand in need of....you are in our prayers.

[sharyll]

Thank you so much for your prayers and support. It means a lot to me. I really feel if I were single I would have joined the church this past summer. I just haven't pursued it because of my husband and my fear of his reaction. I am taking it slow and feel it is the best way to handle it. I do not know if I am right or not. I am just going on feelings and past experiences with him. I appreciate hearing others experiences because it does encourage me so. Again thank you for your support.

Sharyl

<div class='quotemain'>

I do appreciate your prayers. Since I mailed my husband the letter telling him about my search and findings about LDS church he has not written. I was upfront about how I felt and what I saw was very much like what we believe. I told him where I struggle since the doctrine is very different from what I was raised with as a prodestant christian. He has very set ideas about "mormonism" and has a very negative attitude. I have been very fearful about how he was going to react and I can tell you that he is very angry because I have received no emails from him in a couple of weeks and his last letter was short and to the point. He definately is upset. I am not sure what will happen when he comes home shortly. I am very worried about that and would appreciate prayers as he and I will hopefully discuss this. I pray he won't be closed off and will be more open but fear he won't be and this might cause great problems in our already frail marriage. I appreciate your prayers and support.

Sharyl.....Just remember, the Lord loves you and your husband very much......and I am quite sure your husband loves you and misses you very much. As the time draws nearer for him to come home I am sure the Lord will soften his heart as he will realize just what is important to him, namely you. Be his wife, be his companion, love him and talk softly, he will listen. Open up your heart to him....but make sure you do not make him feel left out of your feelings. Continue to pursue the truth, be an example to him of Christs love, be patient and the Lord will provide. Before my wife decided to join the church we had been married for 5 years and our marriage was also rocky, we felt as though we were just spinning our wheels. I knew it could be so much better with the Gospel in both our lives. But, I did not push her, I did not judge....it was something I had to let her have a desire to learn. I answered all the questions she asked me about the church as best I could and when I couldn't answer them I always told her that the missionaries would know and I could call them....she laughs about that now. During this time I was an example to her, I went to church every Sunday, home taught my familys, did service work and my calling in the church and went to ward social events (sometimes her and the kids went too). Eventually it was the Lords will that softened her heart to want to understand why I was faithful to the church and she started to be more receptive to learning....she took the discussions and was baptized...a year later we went to the Temple together and were sealed for all eternity. Our marriage is a total joy now! So, don't give up, don't stop learning about the Gospel and restored church.....and give it time, for the Lord will bless you and your husband for your faith as he did me and my wife. May the Lord bless you with all you stand in need of....you are in our prayers.

[sharyll]

I wanted to thank all of you for your prayers with my husband and I. My husband received my letter about my going to the LDS church and my desires. He sent an e-mail so everyone who would read it (officers, etc) would see how he felt. He was very angry and called the church things I will not repeat. He was upset that I took our son to a church he did not agree with and felt I was totally wrong. I am deeply hurt that my husband did this. I wrote the letter in private and was assuming he would be considerate and do the same. Please pray because I fear how he is going to be when he comes home. I do not know what is going to happen with my marriage, as well as other things. Please continue to pray for us. Thanks

Sharyl

[Dr T]

Why is he so upset?

[Ray]

Hi sharyll,

I am going to start praying that you will find the strength to talk to your husband about how you really feel.

And I'm also going to ask God to help your husband understand that he is fighting to preserve your freedom in religion.

From there it's up to you guys. You can make your own choices.

God can always give you everything you really need. :)

[Princess3dward]

I wanted to thank all of you for your prayers with my husband and I. My husband received my letter about my going to the LDS church and my desires. He sent an e-mail so everyone who would read it (officers, etc) would see how he felt. He was very angry and called the church things I will not repeat. He was upset that I took our son to a church he did not agree with and felt I was totally wrong. I am deeply hurt that my husband did this. I wrote the letter in private and was assuming he would be considerate and do the same. Please pray because I fear how he is going to be when he comes home. I do not know what is going to happen with my marriage, as well as other things. Please continue to pray for us. Thanks

Sharyl

And you have a child?

I really hope things work out....

...not only is it scary when parents fight...

but divorce kills....

even if the kid wants divorce to happen at first...

I don't know what exactically you want to happen...

but I hope you can work out your merraige!

[sharyll]

Hi Everyone,

First of all my husband does not agree with the LDS doctrine and has had issues. Everyone he has told me so far I have found to be false with doctrines you believe. One was Joseph Smith would go into an open field and pray in the hot sun and have mind altering experiences. This is how he made up the church, etc.. Another one which is recent that you believe Jesus is not the Son of God but just a prophet. Boy is that wrong. I know that one even before I started my search that you believed Jesus was God's son. He has others but continues to have huge arguments about the church and feels it is a "cult". I do not see where he gets that but I have known others who have stated that. He was angry with me because I took our three year old son to an LDS church and sat through part of a sacrament meeting. He has no clue what your church is like and was upset that I was exposing him to another faith that he doesn't agree with. There were other things he said but like I said earlier I will not repeat them. I do not know why he has such a dislike/distrust of this church but he does. I think somewhere, somehow some one told him or he was deeply hurt by someone in the church. Just my speculations. Anyway, please pray because like I said I do not know how he is going to respond if I continue to seek out this church. He is dead set against coming. He has a very hard heart to it. I appreciate your prayers and know that what happens is up to us. He is not one to go running out of a marriage. We have had issues in the past and he has been willing to stay and work them out. This I worry might be the straw that breaks the camel's back. We will see what happens. I thank you for listening.

Sharyl

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I wanted to thank all of you for your prayers with my husband and I. My husband received my letter about my going to the LDS church and my desires. He sent an e-mail so everyone who would read it (officers, etc) would see how he felt. He was very angry and called the church things I will not repeat. He was upset that I took our son to a church he did not agree with and felt I was totally wrong. I am deeply hurt that my husband did this. I wrote the letter in private and was assuming he would be considerate and do the same. Please pray because I fear how he is going to be when he comes home. I do not know what is going to happen with my marriage, as well as other things. Please continue to pray for us. Thanks

Sharyl

And you have a child?

I really hope things work out....

...not only is it scary when parents fight...

but divorce kills....

even if the kid wants divorce to happen at first...

I don't know what exactically you want to happen...

but I hope you can work out your merraige!

[JoshuaFKon]

Hi Everyone,

First of all my husband does not agree with the LDS doctrine and has had issues. Everyone he has told me so far I have found to be false with doctrines you believe. One was Joseph Smith would go into an open field and pray in the hot sun and have mind altering experiences. This is how he made up the church, etc.. Another one which is recent that you believe Jesus is not the Son of God but just a prophet. Boy is that wrong.

Hello Sharyll,

Let me first say I am not a Mormon, but I have been researching Mormonism. While I have found many problems with it, I have never heard about Joseph having "mind altering experiences" or that "Jesus was just a prophet" But there are other major concerns.

I do not know how he is going to respond if I continue to seek out this church. He is dead set against coming. He has a very hard heart to it. I appreciate your prayers and know that what happens is up to us. He is not one to go running out of a marriage. We have had issues in the past and he has been willing to stay and work them out. This I worry might be the straw that breaks the camel's back. We will see what happens. I thank you for listening.

You said this is could possibly hurt your marrige, may I suggest that you research the other side before you make such an important decison.

I am not permited to give you links to "anti-mormon" sites on this fourm. But I would suggest you research such things as:

(1) The lack of Archeological Evidence, and how the Book of Mormon contradicts the archeological evidence avalible.

(2) The Plagiarism from The KJV, and other sources

(3) The Book of Abraham, and how it is a common Egyptian Furneral text.

(4) Joseph Smith's failed prophecies.

I am not going to suggest you to only reseach anti-mormon sites, but do look into them.

There are also good pro-mormon sites which I can give you, I personally don't think they are correct, but I can give you links to them:

"fairwiki" is probably the best, but it is not quite finished yet.

"Jeff Lindsay" is good, if a little disorganized.

And of course you have "FARMS" (a little hard to find info on there though...)

Feel free to email me if you have any questions...

respectfully,

Josh

[sharyll]

Josh,

I have heard and seen the other side of what the Christian Church says about "mormonism". I have seen movies, read books, etc. I wanted to hear the LDS side this time and hence I am. I am not saying I will convert. I do not know. I am not rushing this and have been reading and researching this off and on for years. This is the first time I have chosen to hear the LDS side. I am looking at their scriptures, talking to them and reading what they say. I am seeing if I notice things I agree with or do not agree with. This is about my own faith and desire to settle something in my own heart. My struggle with my husband is he is dead set against LDS. The other issue is when I have tried to talk to him about my desire to know more he has been angry with me and said a few angry words about how they are off on this or that. From what I can see he is going on hearsay. He is presently deployed but coming home soon. Communication is very difficult for us and so I wrote a letter letting him know what has happened since he left and catching him up. Hence he has read what I put into words. Letters do not do justice for what I want to tell him. The letter was maybe a way to prepare him that we need to talk. I have been looking into this for 10 months. This is something I do not take lightly and still do not feel totally settled on the issue. I guess what I want from my husband is some freedom to search without getting so balistic over it. I appreciate your concern. I am concerned about how this might impact my marriage and I do not want to do something to jeopardize it. I took my vows seriously as well as he did. Hopefully we can work this out and hopefully he will be calm and rational when we talk and hear me out. Thanks for your prayers and advice.

Sharyl

<div class='quotemain'>

Hi Everyone,

First of all my husband does not agree with the LDS doctrine and has had issues. Everyone he has told me so far I have found to be false with doctrines you believe. One was Joseph Smith would go into an open field and pray in the hot sun and have mind altering experiences. This is how he made up the church, etc.. Another one which is recent that you believe Jesus is not the Son of God but just a prophet. Boy is that wrong.

Hello Sharyll,

Let me first say I am not a Mormon, but I have been researching Mormonism. While I have found many problems with it, I have never heard about Joseph having "mind altering experiences" or that "Jesus was just a prophet" But there are other major concerns.

I do not know how he is going to respond if I continue to seek out this church. He is dead set against coming. He has a very hard heart to it. I appreciate your prayers and know that what happens is up to us. He is not one to go running out of a marriage. We have had issues in the past and he has been willing to stay and work them out. This I worry might be the straw that breaks the camel's back. We will see what happens. I thank you for listening.

You said this is could possibly hurt your marrige, may I suggest that you research the other side before you make such an important decison.

I am not permited to give you links to "anti-mormon" sites on this fourm. But I would suggest you research such things as:

(1) The lack of Archeological Evidence, and how the Book of Mormon contradicts the archeological evidence avalible.

(2) The Plagiarism from The KJV, and other sources

(3) The Book of Abraham, and how it is a common Egyptian Furneral text.

(4) Joseph Smith's failed prophecies.

I am not going to suggest you to only reseach anti-mormon sites, but do look into them.

There are also good pro-mormon sites which I can give you, I personally don't think they are correct, but I can give you links to them:

"fairwiki" is probably the best, but it is not quite finished yet.

"Jeff Lindsay" is good, if a little disorganized.

And of course you have "FARMS" (a little hard to find info on there though...)

Feel free to email me if you have any questions...

respectfully,

Josh

[karrie91]

Sharyll,

You are right to research and look into it. One thing I would recommend is when you are reading/researching trust your gut. I wish you and your husband the best and I hope that you will be happy in your choice and that everything will work out just fine.

[sharyll]

Karrie,

Thank you so much for your email. I appreciate what you said and yes I do need to listen to my gut. I am so sometimes things have been a little rough because I am challenging myself, my beliefs and looking deep for answers and I feel God will show me what he wants and what the truth really is.

Sharyl

Sharyll,

You are right to research and look into it. One thing I would recommend is when you are reading/researching trust your gut. I wish you and your husband the best and I hope that you will be happy in your choice and that everything will work out just fine.

[Princess3dward]

This is so depressing....

Good luck sharyll...

I think my heart is breaking...