Misshalfway Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 Breastfeeding wasn't exactly a party for me either, but I'd rather have the behavior characterized as beautiful and optional ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingnut Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 and choose to breastfeed because it's good for their child.And because it's a heckuva lot cheaper than formula. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlJibbs Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 Send anyone with a problem with covered up breastfeeding to a 3rd world country. I think they would then appreciate the defined modesty most have here. No covering up in Venezula. That sure opened my eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annewandering Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 You really hate breastfeeding? I know there were times and some children that made it harder. Oh my. lol I could write a book on my wolf child feeding. Still even then it was often relaxing and bonding for us. So I am curious, not being judgmental, what it is that you hated about it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingnut Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 You really hate breastfeeding? I know there were times and some children that made it harder. Oh my. lol I could write a book on my wolf child feeding. Still even then it was often relaxing and bonding for us. So I am curious, not being judgmental, what it is that you hated about it?I don't like it either. I've used the word "hate" in the past, though I'm not sure it's accurate to the entire experience for me. The first two to three weeks, I definitely hate it. Every touch sets the nerves on fire, and I hate the sensations. It's frustrating to not be able to share feeding duties, to be tied down within specific feeding time frames. My seven-and-a-half-month-old daughter doesn't have teeth yet, but she's in a phase now where she doesn't release her clamp on my nipple before pulling away, yet she pulls away frequently, distracted by anything and everything. Yeouch!To me, breastfeeding is a necessary part of baby-rearing. I have occasional bonding/happy moments, but it's not overall a pleasurable, enjoyable, or happy experience for me. I'm counting down until I'm done, and can wear a normal, non-saggy, non-nursing bra again. And go out on dates with my husband again.Wait, we didn't do that to begin with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 Send anyone with a problem with covered up breastfeeding to a 3rd world country. I think they would then appreciate the defined modesty most have here. No covering up in Venezula. That sure opened my eyes.You don't have to go to a 3rd World Country. Non-3rd-World countries in Europe - like the UK - don't bother with covers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dravin Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 And because it's a heckuva lot cheaper than formula.Also, isn't if not uncommon for weight loss to occur when breast feeding due to the caloric requirements of producing milk? Of course I understand it draws more from the mother than calories, but hey, silver lining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingnut Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 Also, isn't if not uncommon for weight loss to occur when breast feeding due to the caloric requirements of producing milk? Of course I understand it draws more from the mother than calories, but hey, silver lining.Some women swear that's a myth. With my first, I didn't notice any additional weight loss from breastfeeding than might be expected with losing pregnancy pounds. However, when I weaned her, I noticed a 5-7ish pound weight gain over the next month or so, indicating to me that I had lost a little extra weight, but hadn't noticed it. I'm still breastfeeding my younger one, but I expect a similar experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annewandering Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 I did find that nursing babies made my time more flexible. It is true, though, that breastmilk is digested faster so needs to be fed more often. Probably increases pain sensitivity too if you are already having that problem. Women having that problem might get help from doctors or from nursing sites that might have suggestions t help. I just hate that you cant enjoy it. I can see why though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 It's a myth. Post-natal body composition is different between lactating and non-lactating mothers. Lactation causes you to have an increased appetite to support the energy release of breastfeeding. Also, fat storage process is different for lactating moms than non-lactating. And it is easier to get fatigued so exercising is non-desirable at this stage. And lastly, some mothers find breastfeeding stressful. So, all-in-all... if both mothers are not trying to do something to lose weight, more than likely, they'll lose pregnancy weight at about the same time at weaning age. What makes you lose weight during lactation is if you are really trying to lose weight and doing the exercises, watching your calorie and food-type intake, getting enough sleep and finding that peace/destressing balance with breastfeeding (it is truly relaxing if you let your mind rest while breastfeeding - there's a certain physical stress-release that occurs which causes the milk to flow - and not having the "I'm just a feeding machine" depression that most mothers get). You can potentially lose weight faster than a non-lactating mom doing the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vort Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 And because it's a heckuva lot cheaper than formula.Don't you think that those who marketed the idea of feeding your infant modified cow's milk would have come up with a better name than "formula"? Ugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vort Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 I don't know that I'd call it beautiful.I would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vort Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 Also, isn't if not uncommon for weight loss to occur when breast feeding due to the caloric requirements of producing milk? Of course I understand it draws more from the mother than calories, but hey, silver lining.I don't know if it's common, but it's certainly true with some people -- Sister Vort, for example. When she was nursing, she would outeat me, back at a time when I still ate quite a bit. And she got very, very skinny. She would complain that her pants were baggy and her dresses didn't fit right any more (though that latter complaint mostly had to do with the bust being too tight). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dravin Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 Don't you think that those who marketed the idea of feeding your infant modified cow's milk would have come up with a better name than "formula"? Ugh.It wouldn't surprise me if calling them formulas stemmed from the earlier percentage formulas for making something to feed your baby at home, Infant formula: History of Formula - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia , if the concept of a baby formula was well entrenched by the time commercial products were trying to get in on the act then it makes sense to follow convention. If you note the actual brand names of the products they tend to reference milk or lactation (e.g. Similac, Enfamil, and Isomil ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningStar Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 The nice thing about breastmilk is that there is never a recall like there is with formula. I do think breastfeeding is a great bonding thing, but it's also very time consuming and can be painful. It doesn't seem so beautiful when it hurts, but I was determined to do so because it was better for my babies' health and it was free. My kids were much healthier before I would wean them. I nursed my daughter even longer because I was worried about flu season and that is the easiest way to take care of a sick child. I remember my son getting a stomach virus and I was so grateful I was still nursing. For some reason all of my kids liked to dig their little razor like baby nails into my skin while they were nursing. Drove me crazy. A couple of my kids would gum down really hard and then yank. Ow ow ow. I would try to get them to cling to my shirt, finger, anything but my skin, but no. My son had thrush for 3 months after he was born and that meant I add to wash myself off after every feeding, wipe his mouth with the meds, and apply the meds to myself. It quickly became not a beautiful experience, but I just wasn't going to pay for formula. Our insurance finally approved Diflucan and that worked so well. With my daughter, I had a painful condition that made it hurt more and more during the feeding. With my boys, it hurt at the beginning of every feeding. Some women say let down feels like tingling, but mine was stabbing pain and as my lactation consultant noticed, I would have two let downs during a feeding. Oh, and then there were the wonderful times they latched on wrong and gave me a blister. It's a different experience for every month, frustrating for many, and it only gets more fun when you're expected to cover up with a warm blanket or go feed them in a room that smells like poo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just_A_Guy Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 (edited) FWIW - nursing actually made my wife's post-partum depression worse on our oldest two kids. Since she has a history of depression anyways, with our most recent two babies she hasn't tried to tempt fate and went straight to bottle.Regarding the "if it bothers you, don't look" - can't that also be used to justify all kinds of other behavior that society generally deems impolite? "If you don't like to see me scratch an itch/pick my nose/break wind/belch/perform a variety of other bodily functions that we all need to do but no one wants to see, just turn around!" Even for such a socially acceptable function as eating most of us accept that there's a polite way and an impolite way to go about it; and churlish behavior is not justifiable by a demand that the offended person merely avert the eyes.I'm not one to jump onto the "you're creating pornography for the ward deacons!" bandwagon; but it strikes me that Mom's obligation to at least try to nurse "modestly" is about as important as my obligation to look elsewhere if/when the nursing shawl slips. Edited July 2, 2012 by Just_A_Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningStar Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 We women should just thank our lucky stars we don't have to hide during our 9 months of pregnancy with our offensive, protruding stomachs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dravin Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 We women should just thank our lucky stars we don't have to hide during our 9 months of pregnancy with our offensive, protruding stomachs. Why would you have to hide? Who's gonna see you barefoot in the kitchen?/me ducks and runs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 Where's that guy that's obsessed with breastages? I can't believe he hasn't shown up yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennarator Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 Okay, few things: First, I hate breastfeeding, too. I hate pumping at work, too. Second, there is a federal law that says lactating mothers need to be provided a non-bathroom place to pump at work. So why are mother's rooms at church part of the bathroom and in the same location as changing tables?!?!!?!?!?! This is dumb. Third, I have breast feed, even just recently, at restaurants and such, I am discreet as I can be, but my baby kicks at blankets and covers, but if there is nowhere else to go, then you gotta do what you gotta do. I am not going ot let me baby starve, and I am not going to encourage my body to stop producing because I can't find a place to nurse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennarator Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 Where's that guy that's obsessed with breastages? I can't believe he hasn't shown up yet.Isn't that every guy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dravin Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 Where's that guy that's obsessed with breastages? I can't believe he hasn't shown up yet.Has the phrase "well-endowed" been uttered yet?Oops... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingnut Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 FWIW - nursing actually made my wife's post-partum depression worse on our oldest two kids. Since she has a history of depression anyways, with our most recent two babies she hasn't tried to tempt fate and went straight to bottle.I didn't have PPD with my first, but I have had a mild case with my second. Three weeks after my daughter was born, I flew cross-country with her on one day's notice to see my grandmother, who had just been diagnosed with leukemia, and given a few weeks to live. When my daughter was five weeks old, my grandmother died. Even before the trip, though, my husband and mother-in-law had picked up on some signs in my behavior/attitude/whatever that led them to believe that I was struggling more this time around. I think a large part of it was breastfeeding-related. It was much more stressful for me this time around than with my first, I think.Where's that guy that's obsessed with breastages? I can't believe he hasn't shown up yet.I noticed on another thread that he's actually been banned. Yay for serious discussions that actually stay on track!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingnut Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 So why are mother's rooms at church part of the bathroom and in the same location as changing tables?!?!!?!?!?! This is dumb.I usually see the mothers' lounge as an independent classroom or a room attached to the Relief Society room. Even if it is attached to the bathroom, as long as it's a separate space (i.e., you don't have to sit in the stalls), it is probably in compliance. Also, I don't see a problem with the changing table being in the mothers' room (as long as stinky diapers are disposed of in scented bags or in the bathroom) at all. I don't change my baby's diaper in the bathroom at home -- why should I in public if I have a comfortable and reasonable alternative? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennarator Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 I usually see the mothers' lounge as an independent classroom or a room attached to the Relief Society room. Even if it is attached to the bathroom, as long as it's a separate space (i.e., you don't have to sit in the stalls), it is probably in compliance. Also, I don't see a problem with the changing table being in the mothers' room (as long as stinky diapers are disposed of in scented bags or in the bathroom) at all. I don't change my baby's diaper in the bathroom at home -- why should I in public if I have a comfortable and reasonable alternative?I don't change my baby in the bathroom at home, either, but I don't have the changing table in the room I feed him in either. But even if I did, I know that i keep my home clean and not stinky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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