Anyone here a HGTV fan?

[carlimac]

http://m.deadline.com/2014/05/hgtv-pulls-new-home-flipping-series-after-report-emerges-identifying-its-stars-as-anti-gay-activists/

Thoughts?

[Guest]

Not a surprise...

[Lakumi]

There's being against something then there's being bigots. I don't and will never consider someone who is merely against same sex marriage a bigot, but saying things like that... yeah bigots, "demonic ideologies" ?!

You can't just spout off things and expect nothing to happen, even if its your beliefs.

People are gonna react, this goes for, well anyone. If you're in the spotlight, you gotta know people are gonna, well critique what you say, and when you offend a bunch of people calling them demons, yeah I wouldn't want to watch anything with people like that on it.

[jerome1232]

There's being against something then there's being bigots. I don't and will never consider someone who is merely against same sex marriage a bigot, but saying things like that... yeah bigots, "demonic ideologies" ?!

You can't just spout off things and expect nothing to happen, even if its your beliefs.

People are gonna react, this goes for, well anyone. If you're in the spotlight, you gotta know people are gonna, well critique what you say, and when you offend a bunch of people calling them demons, yeah I wouldn't want to watch anything with people like that on it.

Without actually knowing anything about these guys, I'd like to point out that it's possible to maintain that the ideology is demonic (probably another way saying from Satan) without saying the people are demonic (or satanic). Example is that I think a lot of people (including myself) are misslead by satan and his idealogies, but I by no means think that I or everyone so mislead is satanic or demonic.

In fact I think I'd agree that the attack on the family is a satanic ideology, meaning it originates with Satan, but I don't think everyone jumping on that train are necessarily satanic or anything of that ilk.

I also think this is a natural expansion of what is already in our culture, we ostracise racists unrelentingly, ostracising anyone that can be labelled as a bigot is the natural extension of that.

[Guest]

There's being against something then there's being bigots. I don't and will never consider someone who is merely against same sex marriage a bigot, but saying things like that... yeah bigots, "demonic ideologies" ?!

You can't just spout off things and expect nothing to happen, even if its your beliefs.

People are gonna react, this goes for, well anyone. If you're in the spotlight, you gotta know people are gonna, well critique what you say, and when you offend a bunch of people calling them demons, yeah I wouldn't want to watch anything with people like that on it.

But, that would be valid if they called homosexuality demonic.., but they didn't. See... You can't trust journalists to tell it to you straight up... They want the shock factor so they splice up phrases from what one says to make it mean different... Remember how Zimmerman all of a sudden became branded as a racist?

This is the full text of what was said:

“We don’t realize that, okay, if 87 percent of Americans are Christians and yet we have abortion on demand; we have no-fault divorce; we have pornography and perversion; we have a homosexuality and its agenda that is attacking the nation; we have adultery; we have all of the things; we even have allowed demonic ideologies to take our universities and our public school systems while the church sits silent and just builds big churches,” Benham told the host.

[Lakumi]

Point being, there are... better ways to get ones point across. I mean I can have a conversation with any of you about same sex marriage and it remains civil.

I don't consider anyone here a bigot. We simply disagree, I could go off on some tangent about "why should I listen to religions I don't believe in (and I don't-why would I?!)" but phrases like that make an argument seem, I donno cheap and crude. You can't talk to someone like that, its not a debate or discussion, just them yelling.

Which church does he mean, Christianity as a collective thing?

[Guest]

Point being, there are... better ways to get ones point across. I mean I can have a conversation with any of you about same sex marriage and it remains civil.

I don't consider anyone here a bigot. We simply disagree, I could go off on some tangent about "why should I listen to religions I don't believe in (and I don't-why would I?!)" but phrases like that make an argument seem, I donno cheap and crude. You can't talk to someone like that, its not a debate or discussion, just them yelling.

Which church does he mean, Christianity as a collective thing?

His point was very well put across. And it was very civil. It was for an interview with the host of a Christian Radio program. And he means Christian Churches as a collective telling the host what he finds lacking in Christian defense of their beliefs.

[Quin]

Without actually knowing anything about these guys, I'd like to point out that it's possible to maintain that the ideology is demonic (probably another way saying from Satan) without saying the people are demonic (or satanic). Example is that I think a lot of people (including myself) are misslead by satan and his idealogies, but I by no means think that I or everyone so mislead is satanic or demonic.

In fact I think I'd agree that the attack on the family is a satanic ideology, meaning it originates with Satan, but I don't think everyone jumping on that train are necessarily satanic or anything of that ilk.

I also think this is a natural expansion of what is already in our culture, we ostracise racists unrelentingly, ostracising anyone that can be labelled as a bigot is the natural extension of that.

If we turn that on its head, though:

The LDS Church is a demonic ideology...

Um.

Nope.

Soooooooo doesn't fly.

Q

[Guest]

If we turn that on its head, though:

The LDS Church is a demonic ideology...

Um.

Nope.

Soooooooo doesn't fly.

Q

 

For a non-LDS Christian... it is.  And I'm sure you've heard that a few times in your life.

[pam]

Doesn't surprise me either as it seems that 50% of the people on House hunters and other shows they produce have gay couples.

[jerome1232]

If we turn that on its head, though:

The LDS Church is a demonic ideology...

Um.

Nope.

Soooooooo doesn't fly.

Q

I'm afraid your post made absoluty no sense to me.

[Bini]

Zimmerman may not be a racist but turns out he's a nut job with a long streak of anger management issues. So, yeh, he might have had other motives that night.

[Roseslipper]

I have not read the article and I don't think I will. and I do watch .

HGTV I have it on right now and I enjoy it and will continue to enjoy it. it is so easy for us to look at the mote in other people's eyes and not in our own.