Joseph - Our Beloved Prophet

[Snow]

Originally posted by serapha@Apr 1 2004, 07:03 PM

hmmmmmmmmm

Maybe Joseph Smith wasn't a pretty-boy floyd....

http://www.aml-online.org/reviews/b/B199863.html

anyone have the book?

~serapha`

I've thumbed through the book. I should have bought it - 7 bucks used.

I agree with the guy that wrote the review. Too many artists paint him like they are in love with him and "prettify" Joseph.

Here's an interesting treatment of the real Joseph:

http://www.comevisit.com/lds/js3photo.htm

[Guest Starsky]

That looked like Elvis Presley...LOL

[Jenda]

Originally posted by Snow+Apr 1 2004, 07:29 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Snow @ Apr 1 2004, 07:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--serapha@Apr 1 2004, 07:03 PM

hmmmmmmmmm

Maybe Joseph Smith wasn't a pretty-boy floyd....

http://www.aml-online.org/reviews/b/B199863.html

anyone have the book?

~serapha`

I've thumbed through the book. I should have bought it - 7 bucks used.

I agree with the guy that wrote the review. Too many artists paint him like they are in love with him and "prettify" Joseph.

Here's an interesting treatment of the real Joseph:

http://www.comevisit.com/lds/js3photo.htm

HELLO!!!!!!!!!!!

That is one of the pictures I posted yesterday!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Snow]

Originally posted by Jenda@Apr 1 2004, 08:04 PM

HELLO!!!!!!!!!!!

That is one of the pictures I posted yesterday!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hello!!!!

Not the picture, the website.

Read it.

[Jenda]

Oh, sorry.

[Jenda]

Starsky wanted me to post a picture of Joseph Smith, III, to compare it to Joseph Smith, Jr.

Joseph Smith, III

[Snow]

That's Daniel Day Lewis.

[Guest Starsky]

Thanks Jenda. I really appreciate that. This is amazing. I have never seen JSIII before. What was his coloring? Blue eyes or brown? hair? Black or brown?

[Lindy]

I thought this was an interesting thread for some reason.....

Bump

[Maureen]

I've always thought that this comparison between the photograph and death mask was quite interesting.

M.

[shanstress70]

Death masks are freaky! I don't understand why people did that.

[Ray]

Thanks for the bump. I missed this thread and am very pleased to now have a real picture of what he looked like. Thanks for the links to the information about the JSIII picture too. I had never heard of this before.

[Faerie]

shan..i just saw the death mask in person this week, and while it IS a bit spooky, it's very humbling to see...

and people did that back then to remember the dead...they USED to take photos of dead people (the others ha ha ha ha ha)

[Jenda]

When they first did the "City of Joseph" pageant in Nauvoo, they got someone whose face fit the death mask to play the part of Joseph. Gross! Who would volunteer to have a death mask placed over their face to determine if they fit the criteria?

And the death mask doesn't give an accurate portrayal because of the position the person is in when it is taken. When you are lying on your back (and are dead) your jaw drops back giving one the appearance of a very weak chin.

[Faerie]

i was wondering why his chin was so ittle...

hyrum's wasn't...we thought hyrum looked more like the paintings of joseph than joseph's did...

so who had these masks before the church history museum got them?

[Ray]

Originally posted by Jenda@Jul 29 2004, 12:57 PM

When they first did the "City of Joseph" pageant in Nauvoo, they got someone whose face fit the death mask to play the part of Joseph. Gross! Who would volunteer to have a death mask placed over their face to determine if they fit the criteria?

And the death mask doesn't give an accurate portrayal because of the position the person is in when it is taken. When you are lying on your back (and are dead) your jaw drops back giving one the appearance of a very weak chin.

And if you read the link that someone provided, you would also know that Joseph's face was damaged when he died because he had fallen or jumped from a second story window and landed smack on his face.... plus someone kicked him in his face while he was down.

Btw, while I think it's wonderful to have a photograph showing us what he actually looked like, I wish we also had one without that pompaudore hairstyle. I wonder if he styled his hair like that all the time or had it done before taking the picture.

[Maureen]

Originally posted by Ray@Jul 29 2004, 04:37 PM

Btw, while I think it's wonderful to have a photograph showing us what he actually looked like, I wish we also had one without that pompaudore hairstyle. I wonder if he styled his hair like that all the time or had it done before taking the picture.

Under the picture it says this:

This 1879 duplication was done with film and equipment that by today's standards would seem quite primitive. It has been retouched around the hair, coat, on the cravat-or necktie-and the vest. Joseph's pompadour hairstyle, considered fashionable at the time , has been poorly frisked or masked along the outline. This retouching has caused the loss of softer, finer, transitional hair between the parted sections. Joseph's face seems free of any artistic retouching, but there is an overall "grainy" quality that causes the image to be less than one might expect from a photograph. This "graininess" is probably due to the gross enlargement from the original daguerreotype, however there is a startling photographic quality to the eyes.

http://www.comevisit.com/lds/js3photo.htm

M.

[Jenda]

Originally posted by Maureen+Jul 29 2004, 04:53 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Maureen @ Jul 29 2004, 04:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Ray@Jul 29 2004, 04:37 PM

Btw, while I think it's wonderful to have a photograph showing us what he actually looked like, I wish we also had one without that pompaudore hairstyle.  I wonder if he styled his hair like that all the time or had it done before taking the picture.

Under the picture it says this:

This 1879 duplication was done with film and equipment that by today's standards would seem quite primitive. It has been retouched around the hair, coat, on the cravat-or necktie-and the vest. Joseph's pompadour hairstyle, considered fashionable at the time , has been poorly frisked or masked along the outline. This retouching has caused the loss of softer, finer, transitional hair between the parted sections. Joseph's face seems free of any artistic retouching, but there is an overall "grainy" quality that causes the image to be less than one might expect from a photograph. This "graininess" is probably due to the gross enlargement from the original daguerreotype, however there is a startling photographic quality to the eyes.

http://www.comevisit.com/lds/js3photo.htm

M.

The photograph is amazingly similar in every way to the portrait of him that I posted. I wonder if the photograph was used instead of using him when the portrait was done.