Filthy Lucre

[Guest LiterateParakeet]

20 minutes ago, MormonGator said:

See that's the issue with the internet. Not everything is an argument or a debate. Sometimes, it's just trying to show how someone could think a different way. 

Yes! My husband is great at thinking outside the box. It makes him a good inventor and problem solver. I try to emulate that in discussions.

It goes like this: I think "well that is a good point (or I disagree) but is there another way to look at it?"  Perhaps there is another angle we haven't considered? THAT aspect is what makes these conversations interesting for me.

Edited February 29, 2016 by LiterateParakeet
Typos

[Guest MormonGator]

7 minutes ago, Carborendum said:

Which part would you be referring to?

My Jane Eyre quote that I think about all the time is this.

 

1) You made my day with the Jane Eyre quote. I got into a twenty minute conversation with someone once about that novel. 

2) Billy Budd lets us see the tragedy of following the letter of the law too harshly over the spirit of the law. So does "The Exception and the Rule" by Brecht 

[Guest MormonGator]

7 minutes ago, Carborendum said:

Which part would you be referring to?

My Jane Eyre quote that I think about all the time is this.

 

1) You made my day with the Jane Eyre quote. I got into a twenty minute conversation with someone once about that novel. 

2) Billy Budd lets us see the tragedy of following the letter of the law too harshly over the spirit of the law. So does "The Exception and the Rule" by Brecht 

[Guest MormonGator]

9 minutes ago, LiterateParakeet said:

Yes! My husband is great at thinking outside the box. It makes him a good inventor and problem solver. I try to emulate that in discussions.

It goes like this: I think "well that is a good point (or I disagree) but is there another way to look at it?"  Perhaps there is another angle we haven't considered? THAT aspect is what makes these conversations interesting for me.

Right. We can hold to the rules the Douglas-Lincoln debates (I was on my debate team in high school! Placed fourth in the state once. Don't I rule?) or we can just remember that the internet shouldn't be like that all the time 

[Guest MormonGator]

My major in college was English, so I love to talk about the classics. 

Is anyone else having double post issues? 

Edited February 29, 2016 by MormonGator

[Guest LiterateParakeet]

9 minutes ago, MormonGator said:

Right. We can hold to the rules the Douglas-Lincoln debates (I was on my debate team in high school! Placed fourth in the state once. Don't I rule?) or we can just remember that the internet shouldn't be like that all the time 

My school was so small (500 students total) that we didn't have a debate team. But I think debate teams are great, and yes, you  rule, Lol.

But I don't know what Douglas Lincoln is...I could probably google it though.

[Guest LiterateParakeet]

Re: Jane Eyre...

I started a "Classics Book Club" because of that book that lasted four years. Still my favorite book club ever.

[Guest MormonGator]

14 minutes ago, LiterateParakeet said:

] and yes, you  rule, Lol.

 

 All hail Gator! 

[The Folk Prophet]

A branch president's "approval" of something has no bearing on what is and isn't appropriate behavior, the direction we are going with our spirits, toward or away from our exaltations.

[NeuroTypical]

13 hours ago, Vort said:

Some of us look at it in this way: What if we had to watch NC-17 movies as a part of that job? Would we keep on the job and just wade through the porn flicks as best we could, hoping that none of the filth would rub off onto our psyches?

 

I think about the following people:
* Police officers
* Rape crisis folks
* Mental health professionals
* Corrections officers
* Social workers (of all kinds) specializing in former child sex workers (of all kinds)
* Milpsych people dealing with global threats like Jihadic terrorism
* Teachers who want to make a difference with their students

These folks do indeed "have to watch NC-17"-type stuff as part of their jobs.  I am totally grateful we have LDS folks willing to be in these jobs, wading through the evil as best they can, trying to keep the filth from rubbing off onto their psyches.  I know many of them bear scars from the battle. 

Anyone here of the opinion that people trying to be good disciples of Christ should avoid those professions?

[Guest]

My BIL once declared the Varsity Theater to be "hypocritical" because in order for us to watch a film with all the words bleeped out and the "naughty scenes" cut out, they had to hire someone to watch the movie to do the editing in the first place.

So, what are we to think about this?

[Guest MormonGator]

30 minutes ago, NeuroTypical said:

 

I think about the following people:
* Police officers
* Rape crisis folks
* Mental health professionals
* Corrections officers
* Social workers (of all kinds) specializing in former child sex workers (of all kinds)
* Milpsych people dealing with global threats like Jihadic terrorism
* Teachers who want to make a difference with their students

These folks do indeed "have to watch NC-17"-type stuff as part of their jobs.  I am totally grateful we have LDS folks willing to be in these jobs, wading through the evil as best they can, trying to keep the filth from rubbing off onto their psyches.  I know many of them bear scars from the battle. 

Anyone here of the opinion that people trying to be good disciples of Christ should avoid those professions?

Great point. I know it mentioned it before, but a good prosecutor can indict a ham sandwich and someone who has a knack for preaching can make anything sound sinful. 

Edited February 29, 2016 by MormonGator

[Guest MormonGator]

19 minutes ago, Carborendum said:

My BIL once declared the Varsity Theater to be "hypocritical" because in order for us to watch a film with all the words bleeped out and the "naughty scenes" cut out, they had to hire someone to watch the movie to do the editing in the first place.

So, what are we to think about this?

I had someone once tell me that Saved by the Bell was offensive and shouldn't be watched by Catholics. Dead serious. 

[Guest]

The acting IS atrocious. 

[Guest MormonGator]

7 minutes ago, Eowyn said:

The acting IS atrocious. 

You haven't seen me try to act polite at family reunions. Now THAT is atrocious acting. 

[Guest]

8 minutes ago, MormonGator said:

You haven't seen me try to act polite at family reunions. Now THAT is atrocious acting. 

Is there a laugh track?

[Guest MormonGator]

7 minutes ago, Eowyn said:

Is there a laugh track?

Well yes, but no one gets my sense of humor anyway. 

[Vort]

3 hours ago, omegaseamaster75 said:

You created a fallacy to try to prove your point. Point of fact Jesus would never own a restaurant, or a marijuana dispensary. 

What "fallacy" do you think I "created"? Please explain, using terminology I can understand. Are you suggesting that the mere act of asking a hypothetical question constitutes the creation of a fallacy?

[Vort]

49 minutes ago, NeuroTypical said:

I think about the following people:
* Police officers
* Rape crisis folks
* Mental health professionals
* Corrections officers
* Social workers (of all kinds) specializing in former child sex workers (of all kinds)
* Milpsych people dealing with global threats like Jihadic terrorism
* Teachers who want to make a difference with their students

These folks do indeed "have to watch NC-17"-type stuff as part of their jobs.  I am totally grateful we have LDS folks willing to be in these jobs, wading through the evil as best they can, trying to keep the filth from rubbing off onto their psyches.  I know many of them bear scars from the battle. 

Anyone here of the opinion that people trying to be good disciples of Christ should avoid those professions?

Your point is well-taken, as far as it goes. But do you see no difference between (a) doing a filthy job that desperately needs to be done and (b) paying others to entertain you by laying this filth out in steaming heaps on a banquet table and providing you with dishes and silverware?

[NeuroTypical]

I see the difference, although I wouldn't necessarily call any of those "filthy jobs".  The issue seems to be entertainment vs. something that isn't entertainment.  I think most people go to movies to be entertained, but not all.  

Yes indeed, there's an overwhelming tsunami of scriptural and prophetic counsel that we carefully select wholesome entertainment, and avoid any other kinds.  Furthermore, if you put 1000 people in a room who figure they've got some sort of exception to the rule, or they see movies for reasons other than to be entertained, I believe the vast majority of them are basically teenagers trying to see if they can convince mom that it's ok.

I used to never believe the remaining 5 actually existed.  These days, I know they do.  

 

 

[The Folk Prophet]

Following the logic, one might as well justify porn viewing by the existence of gynecology.

[The Folk Prophet]

Following the logic, one might as well justify porn viewing by the existence of gynecology.

[The Folk Prophet]

Following the logic, one might as well justify porn viewing by the existence of gynecology.

[Guest MormonGator]

1 hour ago, Vort said:

 

 laying this filth out in steaming heaps on a banquet table and providing you with dishes and silverware?

That imagery and gross and r-rated. Please refrain from it. (again, just playing) 

Is reading Shakespeare okay? His humor could be quite bawdy. 

Edited February 29, 2016 by MormonGator

[Guest MormonGator]

I'm having the duplicate post issue and I can't think of anything witty to say in this one. So this post intentionally left blank. Sort of. 

Edited February 29, 2016 by MormonGator