Jamie123 Posted May 12, 2016 Report Posted May 12, 2016 (edited) Mary Ward, who was the great grandmother of English actress Lalla Ward (who played the second Romana alongside Tom Baker in Doctor Who though in my opinion she wasn't a patch on the original Romana, played by Mary Tamm - no longer with us sadly - though she was OK I suppose, and is currently married to everyone's favourite man Richard Dawkins....though she was married to Tom Baker himself for a while) was the first person in history ever to have died in a car crash. Aren't you glad I told you? Edited May 12, 2016 by Jamie123 I'm so useless I can't spell "useless" Vort 1 Quote
Jamie123 Posted May 12, 2016 Author Report Posted May 12, 2016 (edited) So...after 4 hours Mary and Lalla are neck-and-neck, with one vote each!! This is truly nail-biting! Just to remind you, this is Mary Tamm (with the annoying robotic dog K9)... And here is Lalla Ward (in a boat (with a book))... Edited May 12, 2016 by Jamie123 Mustn't forget the book (the cherries in her hat are making me hungry) Quote
Jamie123 Posted May 12, 2016 Author Report Posted May 12, 2016 Oh, and just so we don't leave him out, here's a picture of Lalla's husband, the Not Very Rev'd Richard Dawkins... Quote
Guest MormonGator Posted May 12, 2016 Report Posted May 12, 2016 3 minutes ago, Jamie123 said: Oh, and just so we don't leave him out, here's a picture of Lalla's husband, the Not Very Rev'd Richard Dawkins... I've read almost every book he's ever written. I don't agree with much, for sure. He's good at science-but doesn't know a lot about philosophy or theology. Fun fact-the title of this thread made me think of useless information supposed to fire my imagination. Quote
Jamie123 Posted May 12, 2016 Author Report Posted May 12, 2016 (edited) 4 minutes ago, MormonGator said: I've read almost every book he's ever written. I don't agree with much, for sure. He's good at science-but doesn't know a lot about philosophy or theology. Seriously I got one of his books for Christmas... theology aside, I found it quite inspirational! Edited May 12, 2016 by Jamie123 Quote
Guest MormonGator Posted May 12, 2016 Report Posted May 12, 2016 1 minute ago, Jamie123 said: Seriously I got one of his books for Christmas... theology aside, I found quite inspirational! I totally agree with you. I don't understand people who only read thing they agree with. Having said that, I don't know of many atheists (one guy comes to mind) who read the bible, the book of Mormon or pro-LDS/Christian books. Quote
tesuji Posted May 12, 2016 Report Posted May 12, 2016 I started to read The God Delusion by Dawkins. Didn't get very far, because he seemed to be so angry at religion that he lost credibility with me. Although maybe he had good reasons from his own experience. But it was his blanked statements about all religions being evil that turned me off. Anyway, thank for the recommendation. I like science books, so maybe I'll give at least The Selfish Gene a try. Quote
Jamie123 Posted May 12, 2016 Author Report Posted May 12, 2016 (edited) Hmmm....It's still anyone's race... Just in case anyone's forgotten how awesome the original Romana was, here's a picture of her with Tom Baker... (Not that I'd ever be so low as to try to influence the voting!) Edited May 12, 2016 by Jamie123 Blackmarch 1 Quote
Jamie123 Posted May 12, 2016 Author Report Posted May 12, 2016 Well...my last exam script in THIS batch is marked! It's funny what 200 poorly-worded explanations of "collision domain", STP and "broadcast storm" will do to your head. Next it will be firewalls, DES and public-key ciphers. Fun, fun, fun. Mary and Lalla still even in the polls ... all bets are off! Quote
Vort Posted May 12, 2016 Report Posted May 12, 2016 The average density of Europa is 3.01 g/cm3. zil and Jamie123 2 Quote
Jamie123 Posted May 13, 2016 Author Report Posted May 13, 2016 (edited) 12 hours ago, Vort said: The average density of Europa is 3.01 g/cm3. The average density of Saturn is supposed to be 0.687g/cm3 so it would float in water, right? Not according to these guys: http://www.wired.com/2013/07/no-saturn-wouldnt-float-in-water/ (Come on!! Somebody pleeeeeeeeze vote for Mary!!) Edited May 13, 2016 by Jamie123 Quote
Guest Posted May 13, 2016 Report Posted May 13, 2016 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Jamie123 said: The average density of Saturn is supposed to be 0.687g/cm3 so it would float in water, right? Not according to these guys: http://www.wired.com/2013/07/no-saturn-wouldnt-float-in-water/ (Come on!! Somebody pleeeeeeeeze vote for Mary!!) OK. He's really stretching the logic there. Yeah, I get it. When things are that large, you have your own gravitational field to worry about... yadda yadda. But in terms of what we usually think of when talking about bouyancy, it would float. And Lalla is a better Romana. Edited May 13, 2016 by Guest Quote
Jamie123 Posted May 13, 2016 Author Report Posted May 13, 2016 1 hour ago, Carborendum said: And Lalla is a better Romana. MA-RY!! MA-RY!! MA-RY!! Shall I tell you what gets my goat? I get it that Romana is (was) a Time Lord (Lady?) like the Doctor, and as such she could regenerate (in order to be played by different actresses). But what would have been wrong with the hiring Mary Tamm for a hew hours to make the scene where Romana changes from one to the other? After all they had Silvester McCoy to play the Doctor for the start of the one-off 1990s movie so he could change into Paul McGann. But oh no. The BBC were too miserly for that. They had Lalla Ward pop up as the new Romana from the very first minute of the new season, and had the Doctor say something like "I really like the new body, Romana" so the audience wouldn't be confused. Then it's on with the story as if the Mary Tamm Romana had never existed. She was gone....forever....unmourned. So sad, so sad... Quote
Jamie123 Posted May 13, 2016 Author Report Posted May 13, 2016 If somebody else doesn't vote for Mary Tamm soon, I'm going to cry! (boo hoo) Quote
Jamie123 Posted May 13, 2016 Author Report Posted May 13, 2016 4 minutes ago, Jamie123 said: If somebody else doesn't vote for Mary Tamm soon, I'm going to cry! (boo hoo) And if you're going to say "That's just because you fancy her", what if it is? The Mary Tamm Romana was a dark and mysterious beauty with enigmatic eyes. The Lalla Ward Romana was just a soppy-old, silly-old sop-headed sop head, who'd probably faint if she saw a spider. (I can't remember if she ever did, so I can't be sure. I don't believe she ever went to Metebelis III.) (A spider on Metebelis III, inserted for reference.) Quote
Vort Posted May 13, 2016 Report Posted May 13, 2016 3 hours ago, Jamie123 said: The average density of Saturn is supposed to be 0.687g/cm3 so it would float in water, right? Not according to these guys: http://www.wired.com/2013/07/no-saturn-wouldnt-float-in-water/ (Come on!! Somebody pleeeeeeeeze vote for Mary!!) Coincidentally, here is my Facebook posting from a couple of months ago. Quote Science Fact of the Day: If you had an iron bathtub filled with water that was big enough to float Saturn in, that bathtub would immediately collapse into an enormous planet with an iron core, a water mantle, and an atmosphere of water vapor. It would then catastrophically combine with Saturn, doubtless destroying Saturn's ring structure, and probably alter the gravitational dynamics of the solar system enough to result in very significant damage to the earth's biosphere. Moral: Physicists are dangerous psychopaths. Never listen to them. A few hours later, I equivocated: Quote On second thought, the gravitational energy in the collapse would doubtless heat the water to far above its boiling point, and melt and vaporize at least some of the iron, resulting in an iron planet covered with an ocean of liquid iron and with an atmosphere of iron gas and water vapor. If the planet survived long enough to lose significant amounts of heat, you might get the water ocean described earlier -- which would actually be a rust ocean covering a crust of iron oxide and iron hydride. I like this guy's analysis better. My analysis was wanting: The gravitational heat of formation would certainly vaporize the water and probably much of the iron, too, and I didn't even consider whether liquid water would exist at depth on such a planet. But my posting was off the cuff, so if it loses a head-to-head with this guy's essay, so be it. (The self-consoling words of the loser: "It's not like I really tried! I don't care anyway!") By the way, since I like you, I voted for Mary. I don't actually watch Dr. Who, but I figured you needed the vote, and I'm part of that corrupt political engine. Maybe we can rename Dr. Who as "Showy McShowFace". zil and Jamie123 2 Quote
Jamie123 Posted May 13, 2016 Author Report Posted May 13, 2016 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Vort said: By the way, since I like you, I voted for Mary. Thank you so much Vort!!! Thank you thank you thank you!!! I hereby declare Mary Tamm the Winner of the "2016 Best Romana Award" (sticks tongue out at Carborendum) (But who will next year's title-holder be?) Edited May 13, 2016 by Jamie123 Quote
Jamie123 Posted May 13, 2016 Author Report Posted May 13, 2016 (edited) 16 hours ago, anatess2 said: What kind of sorcery is this? A new anatess? What sorcery indeed! Edited May 14, 2016 by Jamie123 Quote
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