The Scattered Tribes Of Israel

[Still_Small_Voice]

I know ten tribes of Israel were scattered first before Judah. One tribe remained with Judah in Israel until Babylon destroyed Israel in 586 B.C. Which tribe remained with Judah until the 586 B.C. scattering happened?

[checkerboy]

I know ten tribes of Israel were scattered first before Judah. One tribe remained with Judah in Israel until Babylon destroyed Israel in 586 B.C. Which tribe remained with Judah until the 586 B.C. scattering happened?

That was the tribe of Benjamin.

[Maya]

I have a friend she works in the radio in Finland. She told that as she made some interviews one of them she felt was very special. This Person was some kind of highly educated... prpbably a decan otr Doctor or something. He had been studying finnish people... he had found out that finnish people have judish back teeth, the bloodtype... and several other judish things... I wonder if the finnish ugrianish people in fact are the lost tribes...

An other finnish man has found out that latin is finnish if you just write the letter and not its name... like: eneiemii=name and that was also red backwords...

Anyway no one knows where the finnish people have come from. The old possibilities have proved wrong.

[avatar4321]

I have a friend she works in the radio in Finland. She told that as she made some interviews one of them she felt was very special. This Person was some kind of highly educated... prpbably a decan otr Doctor or something. He had been studying finnish people... he had found out that finnish people have judish back teeth, the bloodtype... and several other judish things... I wonder if the finnish ugrianish people in fact are the lost tribes...

An other finnish man has found out that latin is finnish if you just write the letter and not its name... like: eneiemii=name and that was also red backwords...

Anyway no one knows where the finnish people have come from. The old possibilities have proved wrong.

they say the lost tribes went north.

and it was Judah and Benjamin who were still there.

[Moksha]

Anyway no one knows where the finnish people have come from. The old possibilities have proved wrong.

They are not the Magyar?

[Maya]

If they are Magyar.. so are they finnish too!! Both are in finish-ugrianish language group! and yes they went to north... to Finland

Some day we will know it all!!

I have a good friend she is of Benjamin! (in Finland)

[Connolly]

I wonder if the finnish ugrianish people in fact are the lost tribes...

Probably. But they are not the only ones. The ten tribes were scattered all over Europe, and from there eventually all over the world. See Jabob's (Actually Zenos's) allegory of the wild and tame olive trees in Jacob 5 and 6 in The Book of Mormon.

There is a high probability that almost everyone living on Earth today can count Abraham as one of their ancestors and most can count Jacob as being among their ancestors.

[bert10]

I know ten tribes of Israel were scattered first before Judah. One tribe remained with Judah in Israel until Babylon destroyed Israel in 586 B.C. Which tribe remained with Judah until the 586 B.C. scattering happened?

By the time of Jesus, every tribe of the house of Israel had some representation in the land even though many did not know it. For Jesus did say....that He was sent to the lost sheep of the house of ISrael.

Peace be unto you

bert10

[dachosen1]

I know ten tribes of Israel were scattered first before Judah. One tribe remained with Judah in Israel until Babylon destroyed Israel in 586 B.C. Which tribe remained with Judah until the 586 B.C. scattering happened?

To know where Israel is one needs to just read the title page of the Book of Mormon. Written to the Lamanites who are a remnant of the House of Israel also to Jew and Gentile. There are only 3 groups of people on earth. The Jews(Judah), The Lamanites(Joseph), and the Gentiles(the rest of the world). So if you are not a Jew or Native American-Polynesian then you are a Gentile. The lost 10 tribes are lost. They are not among us or scattered throughout the earth. They are hidden unto the world. In 586 BC Judah was left with a sprinkle of other tribes but the majority left with Ephraim to the north. Lehi(Joseph) was led out of Jerusalem at the same time to go to America. So the only tribes that were scattered throughout the earth were Judah(Jews) and Joseph(Native Americans,Polynesians). The lost 10 tribes are still lost unto the world and only God knows where they are. Now Gentiles who accept the gospel and become faithful members of the church are adopted into Israel but they are not the literal seed.

[HiJolly]

To know where Israel is one needs to just read the title page of the Book of Mormon. Written to the Lamanites who are a remnant of the House of Israel also to Jew and Gentile. There are only 3 groups of people on earth. The Jews(Judah), The Lamanites(Joseph), and the Gentiles(the rest of the world). So if you are not a Jew or Native American-Polynesian then you are a Gentile. The lost 10 tribes are lost. They are not among us or scattered throughout the earth. They are hidden unto the world. In 586 BC Judah was left with a sprinkle of other tribes but the majority left with Ephraim to the north. Lehi(Joseph) was led out of Jerusalem at the same time to go to America. So the only tribes that were scattered throughout the earth were Judah(Jews) and Joseph(Native Americans,Polynesians). The lost 10 tribes are still lost unto the world and only God knows where they are. Now Gentiles who accept the gospel and become faithful members of the church are adopted into Israel but they are not the literal seed.

I disagree that the 10 tribes are not on the earth. I think we have considerable evidence pointing to where they are, but I don't think there's much value in us knowing where they are until they acknowledge who they are themselves.

HiJolly

[DrewM]

To know where Israel is one needs to just read the title page of the Book of Mormon. Written to the Lamanites who are a remnant of the House of Israel also to Jew and Gentile. There are only 3 groups of people on earth. The Jews(Judah), The Lamanites(Joseph), and the Gentiles(the rest of the world). So if you are not a Jew or Native American-Polynesian then you are a Gentile. The lost 10 tribes are lost. They are not among us or scattered throughout the earth. They are hidden unto the world. In 586 BC Judah was left with a sprinkle of other tribes but the majority left with Ephraim to the north. Lehi(Joseph) was led out of Jerusalem at the same time to go to America. So the only tribes that were scattered throughout the earth were Judah(Jews) and Joseph(Native Americans,Polynesians). The lost 10 tribes are still lost unto the world and only God knows where they are. Now Gentiles who accept the gospel and become faithful members of the church are adopted into Israel but they are not the literal seed.

I have long understood this usage of "Gentile" to include all those who are not Jews (of Judah) or Lamanites, including the lost ten tribes. I'm from the "loins" of Ephraim. I am a descended from one of the lost tribes, and I'm no longer lost. I imagine you are too.

Probably. But they are not the only ones. The ten tribes were scattered all over Europe, and from there eventually all over the world. See Jabob's (Actually Zenos's) allegory of the wild and tame olive trees in Jacob 5 and 6 in The Book of Mormon. There is a high probability that almost everyone living on Earth today can count Abraham as one of their ancestors and most can count Jacob as being among their ancestors.

I agree 100%.

[dachosen1]

I disagree that the 10 tribes are not on the earth. I think we have considerable evidence pointing to where they are, but I don't think there's much value in us knowing where they are until they acknowledge who they are themselves.

HiJolly

Where is the evidence that the lost 10 tribes are on earth? The key word here is lost. Nobody knows where they are except God. The title page of the BofM is very clear who is on earth. If the 10 tribes were scattered on earth then the Title page written by the hand or Mormon would have indicated this. Mormon addressed only 3 groups of people on earth in the tile page. Written to the Lamanites who are a remnant of the House of Israel(group 1) and also to Jew(group 2) and Gentile(group 3). Further in the title page Mormon indicates the 3 groups again. "Which is to show the unto the remnant of the House of Israel(group 1 Lamanites) what great things the Lord hath done for their fathers-and also the the convincing of the Jew(group 2) and Gentile(group 3) that Jesus is the Christ". Gentiles that are converted are adopted into the House of Israel but they are not assigned a specific tribe. Ephraim the leader of Israel(Northern Kingdom) was led away with the lost tribes. They are not found on earth.

[HiJolly]

Where is the evidence that the lost 10 tribes are on earth? The key word here is lost. Nobody knows where they are except God. The title page of the BofM is very clear who is on earth. If the 10 tribes were scattered on earth then the Title page written by the hand or Mormon would have indicated this. Mormon addressed only 3 groups of people on earth in the tile page. Written to the Lamanites who are a remnant of the House of Israel(group 1) and also to Jew(group 2) and Gentile(group 3). Further in the title page Mormon indicates the 3 groups again. "Which is to show the unto the remnant of the House of Israel(group 1 Lamanites) what great things the Lord hath done for their fathers-and also the the convincing of the Jew(group 2) and Gentile(group 3) that Jesus is the Christ". Gentiles that are converted are adopted into the House of Israel but they are not assigned a specific tribe. Ephraim the leader of Israel(Northern Kingdom) was led away with the lost tribes. They are not found on earth.

In Europe, Asia and northern India, mostly.

I'm sorry, but these opinions are false doctrine, my friend. You've got to give up those mistaken beliefs, I'm afraid. I'm unsure as to whether to engage in a blow-by-blow rebuttal, somehow I'm thinking it wouldn't help this situation. I'll repent if I'm wrong.

HiJolly

[DrewM]

Where is the evidence that the lost 10 tribes are on earth? The key word here is lost. Nobody knows where they are except God.

They are lost to themselves. They don't know who they are until God reveals it to them through his gospel and through his patriarchs.

The title page of the BofM is very clear who is on earth. If the 10 tribes were scattered on earth then the Title page written by the hand or Mormon would have indicated this.

It does. "Gentiles" clearly refer to the ten tribes of Israel who are mixed in with the "nations" other than Israel ("Gentiles" means "nations").

Ephraim the leader of Israel(Northern Kingdom) was led away with the lost tribes. They are not found on earth.

Yes they are found on earth. I am of Ephraim, literally, of the loins. I am not adopted. My ancestors are among those who were led away to the North Countries. I think most Europeans are also descended from them.

[dachosen1]

In Europe, Asia and northern India, mostly.

I'm sorry, but these opinions are false doctrine, my friend. You've got to give up those mistaken beliefs, I'm afraid. I'm unsure as to whether to engage in a blow-by-blow rebuttal, somehow I'm thinking it wouldn't help this situation. I'll repent if I'm wrong.

HiJolly

How can you call this false doctrine when the this comes straight from the title page of the Book of Mormon? I'm not grabbing things out of the air. It is in the scriptures. Mormon wrote the title page under the direction of God himself to set the stage. This is so people could not be confused about Israel. Again there are only 3 groups of people on earth. I asked you about evidence but you just listed some countries. What evidence? I don't want to get into a war but just to get your insight and where your theory comes from.

[dachosen1]

They are lost to themselves. They don't know who they are until God reveals it to them through his gospel and through his patriarchs.

It does. "Gentiles" clearly refer to the ten tribes of Israel who are mixed in with the "nations" other than Israel ("Gentiles" means "nations").

Yes they are found on earth. I am of Ephraim, literally, of the loins. I am not adopted. My ancestors are among those who were led away to the North Countries. I think most Europeans are also descended from them.

Drew,

Don't you think if the lost tribes were present on earth then the Title page of the Book of Mormon would have included them. I think God and Mormon knew what they were doing. Gentiles are not of the House of Israel. If a person is not a Jew or Lamanite then they are a Gentile. Nephi saw the Gentiles in a vision coming across the ocean to America and he called them Gentiles so Europeans are not Israel or mixed Israel. So Drew if you are not Jewish, Native American, or Polynesian then you a Gentile adopted into the House of Israel. This was the doctrine taught until the late 70's and early 80's. Then it changed for whatever reason.

[DrewM]

Drew,

Don't you think if the lost tribes were present on earth then the Title page of the Book of Mormon would have included them. I think God and Mormon knew what they were doing. Gentiles are not of the House of Israel. If a person is not a Jew or Lamanite then they are a Gentile. Nephi saw the Gentiles in a vision coming across the ocean to America and he called them Gentiles so Europeans are not Israel or mixed Israel. So Drew if you are not Jewish, Native American, or Polynesian then you a Gentile adopted into the House of Israel. This was the doctrine taught until the late 70's and early 80's. Then it changed for whatever reason.

Was Joseph Smith, of English heritage, a Gentile?

According to D&C 113 and 2 Nephi 3, he is of Israel, a descendant of Joseph.

Why can't a Gentile also be an Israelite?

[DrewM]

Wherefore, the things of which I have read are things pertaining to things both temporal and spiritual; for it appears that the house of Israel, sooner or later, will be scattered upon all the face of the earth, and also among all nations. And behold, there are many who are already lost from the knowledge of those who are at Jerusalem. Yea, the more part of all the tribes have been led away; and they are scattered to and fro upon the isles of the sea; and whither they are none of us knoweth, save that we know that they have been led away.(1 Ne. 22:3-4)

Israel is scattered in all nations, among all peoples, on all of the earth. They were lost to the knowledge of the Jews at Jerusalem then and are lost to us now as a people. They are among all nations. They no longer are a unified people except those who have been gathered in through the waters of Judah (baptism).

I am of Ephraim. I am of his loins. I have been found as have many of Ephraim. Ephraim is the Lord's firstborn. Ephraim is gathering the rest of lost Israel and has been since 1830.

For there shall be a day, that the watchmen upon the mount Ephraim shall cry, Arise ye, and let us go up to Zion unto the Lord our God (Jeremiah 31:6).

I [the Lord] am a father to Israel, and Ephraim is my firstborn. Hear the word of the Lord, O ye nations [gentiles], and declare it in the isles afar off, and say, He that scattered Israel will gather him, and keep him, as a shepherd doth his flock (Jeremiah 31:9-10).

Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that it shall no more be said, The Lord liveth, that brought up the children of Israel out of the land of Egypt; But, The LORD liveth, that brought up the children of Israel from the land of the north, and from all the lands whither he had driven them: and I will bring them again into their land that I gave unto their fathers. Behold, I will send for many fishers, saith the LORD, and they shall fish them; and after will I send for many hunters, and they shall hunt them from every mountain, and from every hill, and out of the holes of the rocks (Jeremiah 16:14-16).

Israelites are called Gentiles in those scriptures which speak of the gospel going first to the Gentiles and then to the Jews in the last days. Thus the Book of Mormon came forth by way of the Gentile; Joseph Smith was the Gentile who brought it forth; and the United States is a Gentile nation. This is an instance of all men being divided into two categories—Jews and Gentiles, with the Jews being those who are descendants of the Kingdom of Judah. This categorizes the Lost Tribes of Israel as Gentiles, though, in fact, they are of the literal blood of Israel. Joseph Smith was of Ephraim, and the so-called Gentiles who are receiving the gospel in this day, before it goes to the Jews in full measure, are of the house of Israel. (Bruce R. McConkie, A New Witness for the Articles of Faith. [salt Lake City: Deseret Book Co., 1985], 518.)

[dachosen1]

Was Joseph Smith, of English heritage, a Gentile?

According to D&C 113 and 2 Nephi 3, he is of Israel, a descendant of Joseph.

Why can't a Gentile also be an Israelite?

D&C 113 does not refer to Joseph Smith. It talks about the stem of Jesse(judah) and the tribe of Joseph(Ephraim). If it was about Joseph Smith then the Lord would have told him in Section 113 that these versus pertain to him. Joseph Smith was asking God about the versus in Isaiah. Even the title heading and footnotes of section 113 give no reference to Joseph Smith. 2 Nephi 3 does not talk about Joseph Smith either. When the word Joseph is mentioned in this chapter it is refering to the tribe of Joseph not the literal name Joseph. If we look at the title page of the Book of Mormon our questions will be answered. "Sealed by the hand of Moroni and hid up unto the Lord, TO COME FORTH IN DUE TIME BY WAY OF THE GENTILE". Who gave us the Book of Mormon? Joseph Smith. Who called Joseph Smith a Gentile? Mormon and God himself according to the title page. If Joseph Smith was from Ephraim then God would have directed Mormon to put it as "TO COME FORTH IN DUE TIME BY WAY OF AN EPHRAIMITE. Please read the title page of the Book of Mormon again. It is very clear, lets not complicate things. The gospel is plain and simple. The Israelites that are scattered on the earth are the Jews(Judah) and Native Americans/Polynesians(Joseph). The lost 10 tribes are not scattered. They are hidden unto the Lord. He wanted to keep their blood pure and not mixed with Gentile blood. They will come from the north in due time. To answer your second question Yes, A Gentile can become an Israelite thru adoption.

[HiJolly]

D&C 113 does not refer to Joseph Smith. It talks about the stem of Jesse(judah) and the tribe of Joseph(Ephraim). If it was about Joseph Smith then the Lord would have told him in Section 113 that these versus pertain to him. Joseph Smith was asking God about the versus in Isaiah. Even the title heading and footnotes of section 113 give no reference to Joseph Smith. 2 Nephi 3 does not talk about Joseph Smith either. When the word Joseph is mentioned in this chapter it is refering to the tribe of Joseph not the literal name Joseph. If we look at the title page of the Book of Mormon our questions will be answered. "Sealed by the hand of Moroni and hid up unto the Lord, TO COME FORTH IN DUE TIME BY WAY OF THE GENTILE". Who gave us the Book of Mormon? Joseph Smith. Who called Joseph Smith a Gentile? Mormon and God himself according to the title page. If Joseph Smith was from Ephraim then God would have directed Mormon to put it as "TO COME FORTH IN DUE TIME BY WAY OF AN EPHRAIMITE. Please read the title page of the Book of Mormon again. It is very clear, lets not complicate things. The gospel is plain and simple. The Israelites that are scattered on the earth are the Jews(Judah) and Native Americans/Polynesians(Joseph). The lost 10 tribes are not scattered. They are hidden unto the Lord. He wanted to keep their blood pure and not mixed with Gentile blood. They will come from the north in due time. To answer your second question Yes, A Gentile can become an Israelite thru adoption.

James 1: 1

1 James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.

1 Ne. 22: 4

4 And behold, there are many who are already lost from the knowledge of those who are at Jerusalem. Yea, the more part of all the tribes have been led away; and they are scattered to and fro upon the isles of the sea; and whither they are none of us knoweth, save that we know that they have been led away.

3 Ne. 16: 4

4 And I command you that ye shall write these sayings after I am gone, that if it so be that my people at Jerusalem, they who have seen me and been with me in my ministry, do not ask the Father in my name, that they may receive a knowledge of you by the Holy Ghost, and also of the other tribes whom they know not of, that these sayings which ye shall write shall be kept and shall be manifested unto the Gentiles, that through the fulness of the Gentiles, the remnant of their seed, who shall be scattered forth upon the face of the earth because of their unbelief, may be brought in, or may be brought to a knowledge of me, their Redeemer.

3 Ne. 28: 29

29 And it shall come to pass, when the Lord seeth fit in his wisdom that they shall minister unto all the scattered tribes of Israel, and unto all nations, kindreds, tongues and people, and shall bring out of them unto Jesus many souls, that their desire may be fulfilled, and also because of the convincing power of God which is in them.

HiJolly

[DrewM]

D&C 113 does not refer to Joseph Smith. It talks about the stem of Jesse(judah) and the tribe of Joseph(Ephraim). If it was about Joseph Smith then the Lord would have told him in Section 113 that these versus pertain to him. Joseph Smith was asking God about the versus in Isaiah. Even the title heading and footnotes of section 113 give no reference to Joseph Smith. 2 Nephi 3 does not talk about Joseph Smith either. When the word Joseph is mentioned in this chapter it is refering to the tribe of Joseph not the literal name Joseph. If we look at the title page of the Book of Mormon our questions will be answered. "Sealed by the hand of Moroni and hid up unto the Lord, TO COME FORTH IN DUE TIME BY WAY OF THE GENTILE". Who gave us the Book of Mormon? Joseph Smith. Who called Joseph Smith a Gentile? Mormon and God himself according to the title page. If Joseph Smith was from Ephraim then God would have directed Mormon to put it as "TO COME FORTH IN DUE TIME BY WAY OF AN EPHRAIMITE. Please read the title page of the Book of Mormon again. It is very clear, lets not complicate things. The gospel is plain and simple. The Israelites that are scattered on the earth are the Jews(Judah) and Native Americans/Polynesians(Joseph). The lost 10 tribes are not scattered. They are hidden unto the Lord. He wanted to keep their blood pure and not mixed with Gentile blood. They will come from the north in due time. To answer your second question Yes, A Gentile can become an Israelite thru adoption.

Israelite, your arrogance is overwhelming. Are you a native american/polynesian who is unwilling to believe your white brother is also your brother in Israel? You clearly haven't read the Book of Mormon, or if you haven't you don't understand it. 2 Ne. 3 says Joseph Smith would be a descendant of Joseph of old. D&C 113 does in fact have reference to Joseph Smith. Moroni quoted the passage in Isaiah to him the night he appeared to Joseph Smith and said it was about to be fulfilled. Parts of the passage were, in fact, fulfilled in Joseph Smith. D&C 86:8-11 says that the priesthood belonged to Joseph Smith and Oliver Cowdery (both of English origin) by right of their lineage, that they were lawful heirs, "according to the flesh," who were "hidden" in Christ, and so forth. They were not hidden on another planet, nor in some remote continent unknown to man, but they were hidden from the knowledge of those among whom they were living until the Lord revealed it! Joseph Smith is of Ephraim and Judah (see D&C 113). I am of Ephraim. The priesthood belongs to us by right of birth, according to D&C 86. If you don't like that or accept that, oh well. It is the truth.

They are not Gentiles in the strict sense of not belonging to Israel. They are gentiles in the sense in that they came from the "nations" (the meaning of the word "gentile") other than the kingdom of Judah or Israel.

[dachosen1]

James 1: 1

1 James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.

1 Ne. 22: 4

4 And behold, there are many who are already lost from the knowledge of those who are at Jerusalem. Yea, the more part of all the tribes have been led away; and they are scattered to and fro upon the isles of the sea; and whither they are none of us knoweth, save that we know that they have been led away.

3 Ne. 16: 4

4 And I command you that ye shall write these sayings after I am gone, that if it so be that my people at Jerusalem, they who have seen me and been with me in my ministry, do not ask the Father in my name, that they may receive a knowledge of you by the Holy Ghost, and also of the other tribes whom they know not of, that these sayings which ye shall write shall be kept and shall be manifested unto the Gentiles, that through the fulness of the Gentiles, the remnant of their seed, who shall be scattered forth upon the face of the earth because of their unbelief, may be brought in, or may be brought to a knowledge of me, their Redeemer.

3 Ne. 28: 29

29 And it shall come to pass, when the Lord seeth fit in his wisdom that they shall minister unto all the scattered tribes of Israel, and unto all nations, kindreds, tongues and people, and shall bring out of them unto Jesus many souls, that their desire may be fulfilled, and also because of the convincing power of God which is in them.

HiJolly

These 4 passages are refering to the Tribe of Judah and Tribe of Joseph. The Jews were scattered throughout Europe and the Middle East. The Lamanites were scattered all over the Americas and South Pacific.

D&C Section 133

20 For Behold he shall stand upon the mount of Olivet and upon the mighty Ocean, even the great deep, and upon the land of Zion.

23. He shall command the great deep, and it shall be driven back into the north countries, and the islands shall become one land.

24. And the land of Jerusalem and the land of Zion shall be turned back into their own place and the earth shall be like as it was in the days before it was divided.

26 And they who are in the north countries shall come in remembrance before the Lord; and their prophets shall hear his voice, and shall no longer stay themselves; and they shall smite the rocks, and the ice shall flow down at their presents.

These versus tell us that Christ will come first then the land will be brought back together as one. Then the 10 tribes will come in and be reunited with the Tribe of Judah and Joseph. So the 10 lost tribes will not come until Christ comes first. It is important to note that the 10 tribes will have their own prophets.

If the 10 tribes are being gathered right now like you say then where are their prophets? Where are their scriptures? Where is their account of Christ visiting them after he visited the old world and new world?

[DrewM]

These 4 passages are refering to the Tribe of Judah and Tribe of Joseph. The Jews were scattered throughout Europe and the Middle East. The Lamanites were scattered all over the Americas and South Pacific.

These verses say no such thing. James 1:1 specifically says "the twelve tribes of Israel." 1 Ne 22 says "all the tribes" not just Judah or Joseph. 3 Ne. 16 and 28 are in the context of Christ visiting the Nephites. He had already preached to the Jews (Judah) and the Nephites (Joseph) and he was now saying he would go to the others. You can do whatever you want to force your ideas on a text, but the texts are sufficiently clear for even a 1st grade kid to understand.

These versus tell us that Christ will come first then the land will be brought back together as one. Then the 10 tribes will come in and be reunited with the Tribe of Judah and Joseph. So the 10 lost tribes will not come until Christ comes first. It is important to note that the 10 tribes will have their own prophets.

Joseph Smith was given he keys for gathering the 10 tribes from the north countries as well as from the four quarters of the earth. Israel is everywhere, but there is also a specific area of concentration that will, at Christ's coming, return. These refer to two different things. Those keys, given to Joseph Smith, are still with the First Presidency. They are the prophets that will gather Israel, and no one else. The text doesn't say the ten tribes have their OWN prophets at all. That, once again, is something you are reading into the text.

If the 10 tribes are being gathered right now like you say then where are their prophets?

In Salt Lake City. Ephriam is the watchman on Mt. Zion, like Jeremiah said. They are calling forth to the rest of Israel to be gathered. "For there shall be a day, that the watchmen upon the mount Ephraim shall cry, Arise ye, and let us go up to Zion unto the Lord our God" (Jeremiah 31:6).

Where are their scriptures?

No one knows. I suspect that not even the ten tribes know any more than the Nephites and Lamanites knew where their scriptures were until they were revealed through Joseph Smith. Likewise, the ten tribes' scriptures will come forth under the direction of Ephraim who is now in Salt Lake City.

[HiJolly]

If the 10 tribes are being gathered right now like you say then where are their prophets? Where are their scriptures? Where is their account of Christ visiting them after he visited the old world and new world?

israelite,

What makes you think you or I would know where their prophets are? Or their scriptures? ???

HiJolly

[Guest Seraphim]

These 4 passages are refering to the Tribe of Judah and Tribe of Joseph. The Jews were scattered throughout Europe and the Middle East. The Lamanites were scattered all over the Americas and South Pacific.

D&C Section 133

20 For Behold he shall stand upon the mount of Olivet and upon the mighty Ocean, even the great deep, and upon the land of Zion.

23. He shall command the great deep, and it shall be driven back into the north countries, and the islands shall become one land.

24. And the land of Jerusalem and the land of Zion shall be turned back into their own place and the earth shall be like as it was in the days before it was divided.

26 And they who are in the north countries shall come in remembrance before the Lord; and their prophets shall hear his voice, and shall no longer stay themselves; and they shall smite the rocks, and the ice shall flow down at their presents.

These versus tell us that Christ will come first then the land will be brought back together as one. Then the 10 tribes will come in and be reunited with the Tribe of Judah and Joseph. So the 10 lost tribes will not come until Christ comes first. It is important to note that the 10 tribes will have their own prophets.

If the 10 tribes are being gathered right now like you say then where are their prophets? Where are their scriptures? Where is their account of Christ visiting them after he visited the old world and new world?

Israelite: This is a board for congenial discussion and considering the inaccuracy of some of your posts, we are concerned about new and investigating members who might become confused. This post does not reflect church doctrine and I would encourage you to visit www.mormonapologetics.org if you would like to argue your point of view.

Seraphim