the_jason Posted February 11, 2008 Report Posted February 11, 2008 Yesterday, one of our high councilors gave a good talk in Sacrament meeting. It was about families. He talked about The Family: A Proclamation to the World and how we can used it as a checklist to see how our family is doing. I started thinking how great an idea that was and have been pondering ever since. I've come up with a checklist.Most of us have heard of The 17 points of the True Church, which was developed several years ago. Well, I've titled my checklist the 17 points of an Eternal Family. All 17 points come from the Proclamation. Let me say, first, that I do not wish to offend anyone. Many members of this forum have broken families, incomplete families, or no family at all. Please accept my apology if any offense is taken. The doctrine of the Proclamation is still true. Here's my interpretation of it. 17 Points of an Eternal FamilyOur family has a mother and a father, married legallyOur family is sealed for eternity in the templeOur family includes childrenMom and Dad love each otherMom and Dad love the childrenMom and Dad keep their temple covenantsMom and Dad teach the children correct principlesChildren have what they need physically and spirituallyChildren love and help one anotherOur family keeps the commandmentsOur family obeys the laws of the landDad goes to work and provides for the familyMom keeps the household organized and operating properlyDad presides in the home, using the priesthood righteouslyMom teaches the children to love others and be good peopleMom and Dad are equal partnersOur family is happy Quote
checkerboy Posted February 11, 2008 Report Posted February 11, 2008 Very nice Jason. I like it. Quote
prisonchaplain Posted February 11, 2008 Report Posted February 11, 2008 14 out of 16 is about 85%. Does my family get a B or a B+??? Quote
Silver Girl Posted February 11, 2008 Report Posted February 11, 2008 Our family has all but 1 or 2... I work outside of the home, as does my husband... And we have a member of our family that isn't too happy... (We have a wayward 18 year old)... Overall, I suppose we aren't doing too slouchy... Silver Girl Quote
the_jason Posted February 11, 2008 Author Report Posted February 11, 2008 I wasn't asking for everyone's score, but you can surely give it if you want to. The purpose of this post was mostly to share with you how I've applied the Proclamation and invite you to either do the same or come up with your own application. Either way, thank you all for your replies. Also, notice how there is nothing in the 17 points or in the Proclamation that says that children have to practice the teachings of their parents in order to be with them for eternity. This is another subject entirely, but the responsibility of a family being eternal rest solely with the parents. Wayward children are still sealed to their parents for eternity as long as the parents are obedient. In other words, we can be an eternal family and meet all 17 points even if our children have strayed. Food for thought. Quote
Canuck Mormon Posted February 11, 2008 Report Posted February 11, 2008 Our family has a mother and a father, married legally - YesOur family is sealed for eternity in the temple -Yes (except for my son)Our family includes children - There is my son from a previous marriageMom and Dad love each other - IndubitablyMom and Dad love the children - YesMom and Dad keep their temple covenants - YesMom and Dad teach the children correct principles - YesChildren have what they need physically and spiritually - YesChildren love and help one another - There is only 1 child (so far)Our family keeps the commandments - YesOur family obeys the laws of the land - MostlyDad goes to work and provides for the family - YesMom keeps the household organized and operating properly - Yes, as well as working (until we decide to have another child)Dad presides in the home, using the priesthood righteously - YesMom teaches the children to love others and be good people - Yes, and so does DadMom and Dad are equal partners - YesOur family is happy - Yes Our situation is a little different as we are a blended family, but I say we are at 90%. Thank you Jason. This is a wonderful checklist to check yourself against. Quote
Silver Girl Posted February 11, 2008 Report Posted February 11, 2008 I wasn't asking for everyone's score, but you can surely give it if you want to. The purpose of this post was mostly to share with you how I've applied the Proclamation and invite you to either do the same or come up with your own application. Either way, thank you all for your replies. Also, notice how there is nothing in the 17 points or in the Proclamation that says that children have to practice the teachings of their parents in order to be with them for eternity. This is another subject entirely, but the responsibility of a family being eternal rest solely with the parents. Wayward children are still sealed to their parents for eternity as long as the parents are obedient. In other words, we can be an eternal family and meet all 17 points even if our children have strayed.Food for thought. Thanks for the food for thought, Jason... I am a little blue these days, as I miss my 18 year old son so badly...My heart breaks at his actions and thoughts... He has left home recently (not on good terms), as he doesn't want anything to do with us... I don't want to derail the thread, and so will say no more... But, I do appreciate the kind words!!Thanks, Silver Girl Quote
Guest girlydolphin Posted February 11, 2008 Report Posted February 11, 2008 TJ: Just wanted to say thanks for posting this. I know how important families are and the Proclamation of the Family is a standard held high that we should all strive to reach. Jenny Quote
SmilingRedhead Posted February 11, 2008 Report Posted February 11, 2008 This is really great Jason! This has been yet another reminder to me of how truly blessed I am. It's always good to be reminded of that. Thanks! :) Quote
the_jason Posted February 12, 2008 Author Report Posted February 12, 2008 I introduced this to my family last night during Family Home Evening. They were excited. My wife is going to frame it and put it where we will see it regularly. I think this just became our family motto. Quote
InTheDoghouse Posted February 12, 2008 Report Posted February 12, 2008 After attending the World Wide Leadership Training meeting last Saturday, I think we had all better post The Family: A Proclamation to the World somewhere that we can see it regularly. The meeting was completely about the value of family, and family values. I think that "the family" is going to be an even bigger topic for debate in the future than it is now. President Monson, again, reiterated the sanctity of the family, as the concluding speaker. He counseled and warned us to foster our familial relationships and protect the family at all costs. I think that Jason has just come up with a way that his family can study and use this great proclamation to their best benefit. Thank you for sharing it with us, so that we may also use it to benefit our families. Quote
darrel Posted February 12, 2008 Report Posted February 12, 2008 Great information the_jason, How many attended Worldwide Leadership Meeting Telecast where they presented the Proclamation on the Family in a panel discussion. Elder Packer introduced the panel. Elder Holland and Elder Oaks along with the Primary, Young Womans, and Relief Society Presidents. President Monson Closed the meeting. Quote
the_jason Posted February 12, 2008 Author Report Posted February 12, 2008 Unfortunately I missed the WW Training due to an ankle injury. I plan on watching it online, as I'm sure it was excellent. They usually are. Quote
Misshalfway Posted February 13, 2008 Report Posted February 13, 2008 Yesterday, one of our high councilors gave a good talk in Sacrament meeting. It was about families. He talked about The Family: A Proclamation to the World and how we can used it as a checklist to see how our family is doing. I started thinking how great an idea that was and have been pondering ever since. I've come up with a checklist.Most of us have heard of The 17 points of the True Church, which was developed several years ago. Well, I've titled my checklist the 17 points of an Eternal Family. All 17 points come from the Proclamation. Let me say, first, that I do not wish to offend anyone. Many members of this forum have broken families, incomplete families, or no family at all. Please accept my apology if any offense is taken. The doctrine of the Proclamation is still true. Here's my interpretation of it. 17 Points of an Eternal FamilyOur family has a mother and a father, married legallyOur family is sealed for eternity in the templeOur family includes childrenMom and Dad love each otherMom and Dad love the childrenMom and Dad keep their temple covenantsMom and Dad teach the children correct principlesChildren have what they need physically and spirituallyChildren love and help one anotherOur family keeps the commandmentsOur family obeys the laws of the landDad goes to work and provides for the familyMom keeps the household organized and operating properlyDad presides in the home, using the priesthood righteouslyMom teaches the children to love others and be good peopleMom and Dad are equal partnersOur family is happyI think you make some good points here.....but I think that you leave out important demographic groups that also have access to eternal blessings. Like the couple that can't have children. Or single parent families. Just a reminder, that the church members don't always fit the ideal definitions of the perfect mormon family but are still very worthy of eternal blessings. I appreciate that you mention no offense is intended. But I think that these "lists" contribute to misunderstandings held inside and outside the church. I suppose that checklists are helpful in some way......I am just trying to figure out how. This one certainly doesn't tell the whole story. Quote
the_jason Posted February 13, 2008 Author Report Posted February 13, 2008 I think you make some good points here.....but I think that you leave out important demographic groups that also have access to eternal blessings. Like the couple that can't have children. Or single parent families. Just a reminder, that the church members don't always fit the ideal definitions of the perfect mormon family but are still very worthy of eternal blessings. I appreciate that you mention no offense is intended. But I think that these "lists" contribute to misunderstandings held inside and outside the church. I suppose that checklists are helpful in some way......I am just trying to figure out how. This one certainly doesn't tell the whole story.As I said in my original post, this list is my own interpretation. It may not apply to your family, but it applies to mine. Also, it is still a commandment to multiply and replenish the earth, regardless if a family has children or not. Doctrine is doctrine and does not change based on familial status. Lastly, there is an opportunity for families who do not have children in this life to have children in the Celestial Kingdom. People forget that. When it is spoken that marriage is required in order to receive the highest degree of the Celestial Kingdom, that does not only apply to this life. Individuals who do not have an opportunity to marry in this life will certainly have an opportunity in the next life. While my list is not sanctioned by Church or recognized as an official document, every point is found in the Proclamation, and is therefore doctrine. Please realize that doctrines are eternal and continue beyond our mortal state. Quote
Misshalfway Posted February 13, 2008 Report Posted February 13, 2008 I see what you are saying. Just don't want anyone to feel that if they DON'T fit the profile or only fit the profile 85%, like in an above post, that they somehow interpret that as "not living up to LDS standards." The list is a good one. It does what it does. It highlights some wonderful goals for families. I think I understand your meaning and intention. I believe that they are both good. And I appreciate that it may be a good tool for some. Quote
inthearmsofsleep Posted February 13, 2008 Report Posted February 13, 2008 I'd say we have about 11 here in my home (my parents are divorced). I think this is great, though. I'll keep it in mind when I have a family of my own. Quote
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