tree Posted November 16, 2008 Report Share Posted November 16, 2008 I am a former mormon turned agnostic.firemormon,, what made you make that choice???? i tried that before i became LDS, but it left me with more questions than answers and not to mention extremely dry without the HOLYSPIRIT!! if a doctor told you that you have 24 hours to live , knowing what you know about both spiritual beliefs, would you remain agnostic ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Godless Posted November 16, 2008 Report Share Posted November 16, 2008 i tried that before i became LDS, but it left me with more questions than answers and not to mention extremely dry without the HOLYSPIRIT!!Speaking only for myself, I can honestly say that I'm okay with the fact that there are questions I don't have answers to. I'm not afraid to say "I don't know". Not all questions need answers. if a doctor told you that you have 24 hours to live , knowing what you know about both spiritual beliefs, would you remain agnostic ???Again, speaking only for myself, I would remain atheist. The prospect of eternal life holds absolutely no appeal for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May_Pyc Posted November 16, 2008 Report Share Posted November 16, 2008 I am an LDS from Philippines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firemormon Posted November 16, 2008 Report Share Posted November 16, 2008 firemormon,, what made you make that choice???? i tried that before i became LDS, but it left me with more questions than answers and not to mention extremely dry without the HOLYSPIRIT!! if a doctor told you that you have 24 hours to live , knowing what you know about both spiritual beliefs, would you remain agnostic ???I learned many things that made me realize the church wasn't true, IMO. After leaving the church I decided I had to re-evaluate all my religious beliefs. After doing so, I pretty much became agnostic. To me, being agnostic doesn't mean you know the answers to the questions. It just means you realized it's ok to not know the answers. I can't say whether there is a God or not, but I'm ok with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KristofferUmfrey Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 Book of Mormon and Bible believing, feast keeping, clean meat eating, hand-clapping, charismatic, contemporary Christ Follower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tree Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 I learned many things that made me realize the church wasn't true, IMO. After leaving the church I decided I had to re-evaluate all my religious beliefs. After doing so, I pretty much became agnostic. To me, being agnostic doesn't mean you know the answers to the questions. It just means you realized it's ok to not know the answers. I can't say whether there is a God or not, but I'm ok with that.thank you both firemormon and godless for your honest opinions and point of view. i wish you both a happy journey through life! good luck:shamrock: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_last_gunslinger Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 I skipped all the way to the last page. There was no way I was going to read 24 pages spanning four years. Anyways, I'm Mormon. Have been for 11 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MormonMama Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 Glad to see I'm not the only Mormon whose "guilty pleasure" is Stephen King books, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erichard Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 Hi,I picked "other". I was raised LDS, but was cast out for sincere claim of the right of legitimate dissent in the church against the current leadership. I do not accept the Wooley or LeBaron claims to authority, but do accept the Second Book of Commandments.I am always respectful of other people's faith.Richardhttp://www.2bc.info/pdf/Nsustain.pdf some of my insightshttp://www.2bc.info/pdf/2bc-fi39.pdf early 2BC revelationshttp://www.2bc.info/pdf/PAC.pdf article on the subject of Priesthood authority Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MormonMama Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 ...sincere claim of the right of legitimate dissent in the church against the current leadership.Can you explain what that means? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tree Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Hi,I picked "other". I was raised LDS, but was cast out for sincere claim of the right of legitimate dissent in the church against the current leadership. I do not accept the Wooley or LeBaron claims to authority, but do accept the Second Book of Commandments.I am always respectful of other people's faith.Richardhttp://www.2bc.info/pdf/Nsustain.pdf some of my insightshttp://www.2bc.info/pdf/2bc-fi39.pdf early 2BC revelationshttp://www.2bc.info/pdf/PAC.pdf article on the subject of Priesthood authority?so are you saying that the rest of us that has been baptized and had hands layed on us since this "error" has taken place is not truly baptized or given the HolyGhost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erichard Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Can you explain what that means?Hi MM,Well, the Lord revealed that all things in the church were to be done by "common consent." If I truly believe that I should NOT sustain the President of the church, do you believe I should be automatically excommunicated? Probably not. But what if I also wanted the right, in good faith, to seek for a D&C 107:81-84 type trial to settle a sincere controversy over the church President. And I wanted the right to not reject the evidences for such a trial before the controversy was settled. Should that be allowed?I claimed that right and was cast out of the church. The only charge against me was apostasy. I simply cannot trust what happened was done by the right spirit. There definitely was a spirit of subtle coercion seeking to force me into conformity. Furthermore, my conscience continues to tell me that the evidences for serious problems in the church leadership today are way too serious to ignore.Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erichard Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 ?so are you saying that the rest of us that has been baptized and had hands layed on us since this "error" has taken place is not truly baptized or given the HolyGhostHi tree,I am in no position to judge that matter. I would suggest that you should hang in there and do the best you can. Because at some point the Lord has promised to cleanse His Gentile church and set it in order again. I believe the "Parable of the Pear Tree" which speaks of this.Richardhttp://www.2bc.info/R24.html Parable of the Pear Tree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MormonMama Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Hi MM,Well, the Lord revealed that all things in the church were to be done by "common consent." If I truly believe that I should NOT sustain the President of the church, do you believe I should be automatically excommunicated? Probably not.I believe that the Lord calls his prophets, and as such he knows better than I who those prophets should be. If I could not accept his chosen prophet, then I could not be a member of this church, because I would believe that the Lord is fallible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tree Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Hi tree,I am in no position to judge that matter. I would suggest that you should hang in there and do the best you can. Because at some point the Lord has promised to cleanse His Gentile church and set it in order again. I believe the "Parable of the Pear Tree" which speaks of this.Richardhttp://www.2bc.info/R24.html Parable of the Pear Treeso your saying blacks have not the right to the preisthood and that the faithful partner of an adulterated marriage can only marry a faithful member that is already married??,or could she or he marry a faithful partner that was wronged the same way and still be in obedeince to Heavenly Father? please explain in laymans terms exactly what message is that you are presenting us with so we all can make sure exactly what it is you are saying!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erichard Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 so your saying blacks have not the right to the preisthood and that the faithful partner of an adulterated marriage can only marry a faithful member that is already married??,or could she or he marry a faithful partner that was wronged the same way and still be in obedeince to Heavenly Father? please explain in laymans terms exactly what message is that you are presenting us with so we all can make sure exactly what it is you are saying!!Well Tree,You are welcome to read the 2BC and determine if it is true revelation from a living prophet. If it is, then it belongs to you as much as it does to anyone on earth. The true Word of the Lord is precious.But I guess I could tell you my understanding of the matter. But what if I am wrong, and do not explain it correctly? You probably better study it yourself and not trust another person's judgment.Read D&C 132:44. It teaches that if a man is married in the New and Everlasting Covenant of marriage, and he commits adultery then his wife and children are to be given to another man who has been faithful. There is no reason to believe the man has to already be married, but neither is there any reason to believe he could not be married.So as I see it, the 2BC teaches "Polygyny when necessary".If you really want to discuss this in detail, you could join this yahoo group which studies the 2BC revelations:SecondBookOfCommandments Yahoo groupRichard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extra_mile Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 Hey Guys, To get things back on Track, I voted sometime ago, but did not post here. I'm a SDA - Seventh-Day Adventist, But Also Known as 'Video Master" But you can call me VM, LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaspah Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 grew up going to a Protestant Christian Church, but am now happily a Latter-Day Saint :) awesome!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capital_Ideal Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 Christian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanuvasamama Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 WooHoo I was #500 for LDS... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bethie Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 How do I change my vote? When I first voted I was "non-denominational Christian", since Nov. '08, I am LDS. Yahooooo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MormonMama Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 How do I change my vote? When I first voted I was "non-denominational Christian",since Nov. '08, I am LDS. Yahooooo!Congratulations! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recon Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 Im an agnostic mormon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest missingsomething Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 I was born into Catholic religion. I joined the RLDS church... then at 13 I became LDS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest missingsomething Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 I am RLDS. And look! RLDS has 100% of the votes right now. B) WHich "branch" are you? Fundamentalist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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