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Wisdom of Solomon? humor...sorry Power of discernment is part of the priesthood. Is this a question or seeking advise?

You consider that a teaching tool. Any talk under the influence and guidance of the HG is the same as General Conference.

Did the Savior explained to the Jews, He was doing the same work [savior role] as the Father has already done before [on another earth]?

Good questions

GAs will never do props in a general conference... Different if it is a BYU Devotionals, local area talks, firesides, and so forth.

Sorry, I was counseling a person when I short keyed those abbreviations: GA - General Authorities SP - Stake Presidents HC - High Councilmen

Matter - correct. Body - correct [glorified] Wife - correct Christ mortal body - correct Return home - correct So what is the problem?

I do apply 'props', when gaging the audience and principle that needs some reinforcement. Others, I have seen from GAs, SPs, HCs, do it from time-to-time. What I have learned in using this method of teaching, members are more attentive in the meeting then lecturing a 15-minutes; some cases, 30-minutes.

To what aspect? Don't be to hasting here.

I understand your point and you are correct. Both prophet and those of the apostleship, have the keys as 'Seers.' As there is only one prophet called in receiving divine enlightenment for the church. This is a special gift, that is given to few, based on this individual salvation, edification, and are obedient and faithful. Let me offer a question here, in the BOM, was Mosiah set apart as a Seer? Or the young boy Joseph Smith, was he divinely set apart as a seer prior to translating the plates? Just an interesting observation. To illustrate what is a seer, a quote from an October [PM], 1961 General Conference address by Elder Theodore Moyle Burton: A member may have this gift, for his/her own edification or those assigned [church calling, family members - children]. Does that make sense?

The Saints should always understand when we finally commit our mortal life to God, in order to gain this promise; the Holy Ghost does not reveal the FATHER unto that person. It is not His divine purpose. The Holy Ghost will only reveal the Second Comforter – or – Jesus the Christ. It is the Second Comforter or Jesus Christ reveals the FATHER unto them who are considered ‘friends’; through obedient and faithfulness. Not using the prophet as a exemplar role model [personage visitation], Elder Alvin R. Dyer, in his book, ‘Who Am I’, reveals the step to reach this condition level: Regards to the prophet's grove visitation and applying this to one who is seeking the same, would demand a level faith, which exceeds the norm. No doubt, humility and being thankful is two keys that are needed on a daily basis.

I do apologize. I meant, in seeing the personages in person [mortality]. I do see many will use the term 'I KNOW' in a sacrament meeting. To me, this means 'I HAVE WITNESS THIS IN PERSON'. This can be misleading in many Fast & Testimony meetings since it is something that follows those of great faith and many trials. Apostle B.R. McConkie, undoubtedly, is a witness of the Savior and spoke many occasions on this topic. I know there are some ‘T. fellows’, perhaps here on this forum, don't agree with his tenacious attitude in using his father-in-law creational stance, but the point here is the content.

We are referring to those of mortality. Just not going to happen. Some may argue that even Apostle Judea when betrayed the Savior, this was done openly; hardly! He did not receive that promise. You have to remember, when one reaches this pinnacle of light, he/she will see Lucifer, in order to know the difference. Remember what happened to Moses and Joseph Smith?

According to Victor Ludlow, Herbal Tea is not part of the Word of Wisdom. [Principles and Practices of the Restored Gospel]. As Aelswyth has already mentioned concerning the Camellia Sinensis or known Black Tea or Green Tea is a major issue. Tea is defined by the early church leaders to the standard tea derived from the tea plant.

Can a person with that much light fall? Elder Rulon T.Burton, [We Believe] - - - "There is no forgiveness for denying the First Comforter. But if a man received honor enough to have the presence of the Son, he would also have the knowledge of the First Comforter and should he turn away, his sin would be unpardonable. A man could not deny the Second Comforter any more than he could the first. "

When the military is looking for 'Remote Viewers', they will look for LDS active members. Seers are not called but is a talent from on high. Many have this gift.

Noting the amount of claimed beliefs professed today on the earth, one will need to confront that very god and asked the question - "Which religion is the correct one."

6-months 9 days.... :) My sincere condolences. Probably thinking what is next.

Kudos for your opinion. There was a mentioning in the BOM by Mormon of a Civic record, which the Nephites kept. 116-pages were found and printed back in 2002. A member of the church did purchase the rights to the pages. Whether or not, some of the material were tainted from the original translation done by Joseph, remains in the hand of the reader using the Spirit for a guide. The final convincing evident will come soon, as the completing the translation of the final sealed portion of the plates. Though, I highly doubt the world or those within the church would or could swallow their own pride. I had to swallow a lot of that so-called pride about man’s interpretation of the creation and other dogmas about our own universe. [laughter] From my own observation, I don't see anything that is complex about the BOM or about the Earth, the Universe, or even about GOD. Perhaps it was beyond his capability in the beginning, unlikely as he matured later. Knowing the exact location still remains a question in my mind why he didn’t present that case after he translated or perhaps, the Lord had another reason; perhaps, it was not important at the time for Joseph to ask. I would have to disagree on what is presented as historically as evidence since now we have a culture of people, ruins, and people scattered from one end of the continent to the other. For me, it comes down to our desire to know those varied truths. I will add, Joseph Smith had the understanding of the Nephite/Jaredite culture [read Lucy Mack Smith Journals], as he did with the BOM writers. Nice to see Mat’s review but his words are vacant and insignificant for the one who searching the truth. The final conclusion is not in the hands of the scholars but the individual reader in the search for the truth.

If today was your last day in mortality, are you ready or feel comfortable in meeting those across the veil?

Not to sidetrack this thread: oh...love your avatar image. Anyone know what happen to Jenny?

Is Brant Gardner on this forum?

I don't want to divulge to much on a brother's PB but I seldom see this statement. I will add some further clarity and stopped there [i have remove the name]:

Why?

I am at lost with your statement, Ray. What was the intent of Mormon in condensing the records in regards creating the plates [bOM]? Also, I didn't post, it was primarily based on historical accounting only. Ray, how did you determine that Lehi's manuscript was only a historical record? Do you by chance have a legit copy? Culturally, the Jews maintain records. Any reader will notice this when you read the first couple of chapters in Mathew. Even our own Roman historian Josephus was well known for record keeping. If I was to look upon the hard physical evidence of the GODHEAD grove visitation to the Joseph Smith, was it required? Why not just give the boy prophet, faith, to restore the gospel? If a testimony was first based on faith, through trials and tribulation, what is next step? We need to clean up the record keeper on this earth. so that our children will have a greater wealth of understanding of its history but the dealings of the Gods among its inhabitants.