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Pale: I think you fail to understand the seriousness of this here situation, that of the anquish suffered by the LDS Forum love forelorn. I didn't go thru years of on line computer courses to learn brain surgery, dishwashing, and of course lawn insects 101, just to be my wifes eye candy at Home Depot and Pets R Us. Matters of the heart and other organs are no laughing matter. I am doing this not for laughs, but because I want to help ease the pain of the misfortunate. We all know if the new health programs go into affect, good advise will cost more than I charge. If the ERA would have approved my request for my service in the church magazine, I probably wouldn't be doing this.

Dear Moksha: My grandmother always said you can catch more flies with honey than vinegar. So, exchange the pork shop for honey. Flies can be put in a jar and keep, so they can watch you 24/7. Whereas dogs like to wander throughout the house or sniff all over the yard. Besides flies don't lift their leg. P.S. Have you thought about dating the opposite sex, instead of hanging out at the pound so much.

Vort: Great comment, but quit stealing my thunder or I will make a voodo doll from your avatar.

Your case in a little different. Suggest you quit watching Jerry Springer Cancel your Playboy and Harley Davidson magazines Quit hanging out in gay bars Start doing your home teaching

Change your methods. First, quit licking them on the first date Second, quit mooing, when they take you out for dinner Third, Start wearing a bra in public And finally, try to always be in a good mooooooood.

Why would a cute chick masquerade as a cow? Obviously you work for some commy chicken rescue organization.

Ans: You have Options: Move and take kids with you. Ask him if he would like to start a polygamist group Plot with the kids to make the new wife miserable Take two aspirin and call me in the morning.

I have decided to contribute to the forum by volunteering my ADVICE and considerable expierence in all matters of the heart, as well as other housecleaning advice. Similiar to ANN LANDERS. At no charge I might add, so if you have a question concerning your love life, dating, etc. feel free to ask... :cool: For example: You may be having trouble with communicating with your spouse on certain subjects? My advise: Call you home when he isn't there from your cell phone and leave him/her a message on the answering machine. , See how simple that is.

Mahone: Is Linux a different operating system than windows? If so, will windows programs still run on it?

Snow: I really like your avatar. Thx. for keeping an eye out for us all.

A child was asked to write a book report on the entire Bible. I wonder how often we take for granted that children understand what we are teaching??? Through the eyes of a child: The Children's Bible in a Nutshell In the beginning, which occurred near the start, there was nothing but God, darkness, and some gas. The Bible says, 'The Lord thy God is one, but I think He must be a lot older than that. Anyway, God said, 'Give me a light!' and someone did. Then God made the world. He split the Adam and made Eve. Adam and Eve were naked, but they weren't embarrassed because mirrors hadn't been invented yet. Adam and Eve disobeyed God by eating one bad apple, so they were driven from the Garden of Eden.....Not sure what they were driven in though, because they didn't have cars. Adam and Eve had a son, Cain, who hated his brother as long as he was Abel. Pretty soon all of the early people died off, except for Methuselah, who lived to be like a million or something. One of the next important people was Noah, who was a good guy, but one of his kids was kind of a Ham. Noah built a large boat and put his family and some animals on it. He asked some other people to join him, but they said they would have to take a rain check. After Noah came Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Jacob was more famous than his brother, Esau, because Esau sold Jacob his birthmark in exchange for some pot roast. Jacob had a son named Joseph who wore a really loud sports coat. Another important Bible guy is Moses, whose real name was Charlton Heston. Moses led the Israel Lights out of Egypt and away from the evil Pharaoh after God sent ten plagues on Pharaoh's people. These plagues included frogs, mice, lice, bowels, and no cable. God fed the Israel Lights every day with manicotti. Then he gave them His Top Ten Commandments. These include: don't lie, cheat, smoke, dance, or covet your neighbor's stuff. Oh, yeah, I just thought of one more: Humor thy father and thy mother. One of Moses' best helpers was Joshua who was the first Bible guy to use spies. Joshua fought the battle of Geritol and the fence fell over on the town. After Joshua came David. He got to be king by killing a giant with a slingshot. He had a son named Solomon who had about 300 wives and 500 porcupines. My teacher says he was wise, but that doesn't sound very wise to me. After Solomon there were a bunch of major league prophets. One of these was Jonah, who was swallowed by a big whale and then barfed up on the shore. There were also some minor league prophets, but I guess we don't have to worry about them. After the Old Testament came the New Testament. Jesus is the star of The New. He was born in Bethlehem in a barn. (I wish I had been born in a barn too, because my mom is always saying to me, 'Close the door! Were you born in a barn?' It would be nice to say, 'As a matter of fact, I was.') During His life, Jesus had many arguments with sinners like the Pharisees and the Democrats. Jesus also had twelve opossums. The worst one was Judas Asparagus. Judas was so evil that they named a terrible vegetable after him. Jesus was a great man. He healed many leopards and even preached to some Germans on the Mount. But the Democrats and all those guys put Jesus on trial before Pontiusthe Pilot. Pilot didn't stick up for Jesus. He just washed his hands instead. Anyways, Jesus died for our sins, then came back to life again. He went up to Heaven but will be back at the end of the Aluminum. His return is foretold in the book of Revolution.

At this point I have a couple of questions of my own concerning the situation. Just want to build my understanding. Say I get her another computer. She downloads her programs on it, leaves the other computer sitting in storage for a period of time or at least off line. (IE: 6 mo.). Remembering of course, she does have a website where she also sells dogs. Therefore her email address & phone number may be observed and a source of at least that information. Questions: Will that stop this guy from accessing the new computer Will he still be able in the future to again install a keylogger and/or trojan on the new computer. Or how would she stop him? What if you all were able to determine from the netstat that indeed someone has installed a trojan and/or keylogger on her machine and therefore, she takes the machine into a professional where she lives, lets him take a mirror of it as well a copy of what you guys determine and has him verify it. Would that work, then to take it to a lawyer and/or at least file a harrasment complaint? Which would establish something on record.

There was a little old lady, who every morning stepped onto her front porch, raised her arms to the sky, and shouted: 'PRAISE THE LORD!' One day an atheist moved into the house next door. He became irritated at the little old lady. Every morning he'd step onto his front porch after her and yell: 'THERE IS NO LORD!' Time passed with the two of them carrying on this way every day. One morning, in the middle of winter, the little old lady stepped onto her front porch and shouted: 'PRAISE THE LORD! Please Lord, I have no food and I am starving, provide for me, oh Lord! The next morning she stepped out onto her porch and there were two huge bags of groceries sitting there. 'PRAISE THE LORD!' she cried out. 'HE HAS PROVIDED GROCERIES FOR ME!' The atheist neighbor jumped out of the hedges and shouted: 'THERE IS NO LORD; I BOUGHT THOSE GROCERIES!!' The little old lady threw her arms into the air and shouted: 'PRAISE THE LORD! HE HAS PROVIDED ME WITH GROCERIES AND MADE THE DEVIL PAY FOR THEM!'

Again, thanks to all thus far for your compassion, and interest in helping out. As you can tell, she is at her wits end with trying to deal with this situation and still be a single mom, hold down a job, etc.. Hopefully she will find the time in the next few days to get the information.

There have been several good points made concerning the various exchanges by forum members to the two subject threads. What I find somewhat intriguing after reading the entire thread. 1 - I noted that the conclusion of some posters being very judgmental was supported by comparing other LDS forums to this one. Question: Isn't that in itself making a judgment of some LDSForum users? 2. - Original question as for the Forum members "Thoughts". So it appeared several gave them. And of course when this happens, a number of diverse thoughts were written. Of course, there are going to be differening opinions. Some based on expierence, some on personality, some on education, some based on desires to be perfect, etc. My point, This is a diverse group and a diverse range of opinions etc. should be expected. 3- This is an LDS Forum, however there are a number of non-LDS members. Therefore, on that basis alone, there is bound to be a difference of opinion on certain subjects. Now consider that none of us are at the same place on on our spiritual growth, our gospel understanding, nor in our desire to be as our Savior - Perfect. So now, throw in the mix, certain touchy or loaded questions and watch the fur fly. 4. - The difficulty I see is drawing conclusions and making judgments simply based on someones repsonses can lead to a much different answer than having the added perspective on knowing them personally and/or have expierence dealing with them. Good thing the savior gives us our lifetime to know us completly, before he makes his judgements. 5. I have noted a number of times in my life, that some people are very touchy on certain subjects. This may be in part because of guilt, past expierence, a lot of unknown reasons. So when certain subjects come up, they get very defensive of their point of view. Example: might be Word of Wisdon and the subject of drinking coffee or smoking. We all can read the Words of Wisdom as stated in church doctorine. We can all read or listen to our General Authorities espouse their guidance and cousel. But in the end, we still have our agency to choose our course of action. Most of can and do, still defend our lifestyle choices, our church attendance or lack thereof, our support and compliance. But in the end, each of us will have to answer for our own actions to our Heavenly Father, our neighbors judgements be damed. We all have our own beam in our eye to worry about. So why get so excited or upset about anything that is posted on a forum.

Meanwhile back at the ranch. Here is where we are at. She has been working and may not get time until this weekend to respond any further. However, she did send me a copy of her netstat attempt. It shows no data whatsoever. I am not sure what OP system she is using, but what the jpg indicated was the following C:\Documents and Settings\Username>netstat Active Connections Proto Local Address Foreign Address State (No data) I am no computer jockey but it seems to me that she must not have been at the proper starting place at C:\ ? Now when I attempted to do it on my computer which has Vista, I went to Accessories, then to command prompt, the typed in netstat. So mine starting point was, C:\Users\lilered>netstat. It gave me a lot of lines of data under the various headings. So my question is. Perhaps the best way to start this process is can someone explain how to get to the proper starting place prior to running the cmd netstat? I can then send her an email and give her those instructions as well as tell her to open up an account on the forum. That way, she will have the information you all need to make some recommendations of how to solve her problems. Just a thought. Thx.

Latest on the Hacker case: I have since had several exchanges with my daughter concerning various (20) suggestions by those who have posted thus far. I have posted below her comments which should help shed a little more light on the hacker issues. Would appreciate your suggestions once you have had a chance to view the suggested fixes and her comments. 1. Contact Police/FBI or at least file a police report – 2. Contact a Lawyer 3. Change Passwords 4. Contact her host & email provider 5. Do a system restore that is earlier than the suspect hackers invasion date. 6. Reformat her hard drive after backing up her files the reinstall her operating system and programs. 7. Default her router settings, check/reset router 8. Change all passwords using different computer (including her secret questions). 9. Get both a hardware, software firewall and software and virus protector for her. a. Two Suggested using Kaspersky Internet Security b. Suggest using dban 10. Tell your daughter not use email or computer till everything is settled. 11. Switch Internet Providers 12. Do not back up current files (Opposite advise from Item 6). 13. Don’t bother contacting police, they won’t do anything anyway (Opposite advise from Item 1) 14. Take it to a computer store and have their experts clean it and reinstall everything. 15. Call his parents and tell them what he is up to. 16. Restart computer, upon completion use netstat. a. Print Screen - Results b. Make Copy c. Sent .jpg file of above to forum member for analysis 17. Get Trojan removed 18. Teach hacker a less a. Volunteer to format his “C” drive 19. Change passwords using on screen keyboard. 20. Hacker needs to get a life. Her comments: Dad, So sorry that I have you worried, and are burdening you with my computer problems. I just simply don’t know what else to do. Help! don’t' think its childs play or newb. Sure wished it were. I do have a screen shot where he put on a screen pop up window with just his initial. Other things I have also printed. I had geek squad out a while back and they found where my administrative password was changed. Other weird stuff too. Was online once in my gmail and a pop up window came up so fast, I didn't have time to print it. It said "we’re back". I confronted Brandon who I call wackjob/Casanova, who I think is/has been doing this to me for, almost year or so. He told me "good luck trying to prove it". He is devious, cunning and I can't seem to stop him from hacking my computer. He is doing just as your forum friends has advised. Almost all things he described are happening. I have zone alarm, the best there is when I investigated. But maybe not? I know it has stopped some, but not all. I change my passwords all the time. I was going to gather as much as I could and when I could financially afford it, go after him. But need proof. I have some....just not enough. He changes his IP addresses, and other things that are beyond my computer knowledge. Did learn how to reformat/dump. Had to...alot of my protection was being disabled. Then I got zone alarm. This has, as I said stopped some. I need all the help I can get. Why he is still doing this? I don't know. I just know I was told that he went to my website and got my home phone number (dog website). I took a picture of the call I got from my caller ID. It traces back to his new girlfriends house, when she called to harasses me. I am sure, I have a trojan installed. But my protection is not picking it up. I tried Microsoft, McAfee, Bitdefender, Norton,...none of them have stopped it or picked it up. The only luck I have had that has "slowed" or stopped some is Zone Alarm, which I have. I can't afford any more right now, and some make you have a subscription to have the virus or whatever found removed. May pick it up, but won't remove it. He said to me once...I put a "guardian angel" there to watch over you always. Wigged me out. Now I believe he did something. What that is I don't know. He's messing with me. When I dump/reformat, it wipes out everything. And probably some of the proof needed. He needs to be stopped because if he is doing it to me, who else is he doing it to. One thing for sure I agree with, he needs to be taught a lesson. Sometimes my computer acts like its possessed. My mouse moving and the other things your friends says are common, that are happening does drive me a little bonkers…makes me dizzy too..:) I have been getting some of my email, It just goes in spurts. When he does mess with the email, it sometimes happens around payday and of course that screws with my dog sales because people send me emails concerning the dogs and I never see them. I find out later, that they emailed me but by then I have already sold the dog they wanted to someone else or I end up keeping the dog longer than I should. He is also messing with my sites like Facebook and myspace; My space especially. I have rebuilt it more times than I can count. I am on there and get approved, get friend request for about a day, then nothing. That is the kind of stuff he is also doing. How, don't know. Facebook is better and isn't messed with as much, why I don't know. Harder to hack I guess. And also he knows I know these people. With myspace, not as much. Sometimes its petty stuff that is very very annoying. Nothing messed with like bank accounts, serious stuff. He's too smart for that. he would be in BIG trouble. Plus really watch what I do. Absolutely, do not have any of my credit cards or things like that on my comp. I did what one of your forum members suggested and did the netstat thing. Attached is a copy in jpg format as you indicated? I didn’t see anything that looked odd. But I did as I was advised. Assume you will pass it on to the LDS forum member, who asked for it for his evaluation? I followed step by step, even went back after did once and disabled everything, programs, it was the same with and without. I'm telling you, its weird…no one can find anything. I've tried…except Geeksquad and things popping up on me, moving mouse and all the other stuff telling you about. But none of the programs for protection have picked up anything, and if did, think seen something weird one time and was a trojan. It was just after I got the new Zone Alarm. It said it was removed. But don't think it was, or when I restart, it somehow gets back. I dunno.

Thanks to everyone for the response. I have advised her of the suggestions and we will see what develops. Thx. Again.

My daughter called me recently crying, concerning a former computer nerd boyfriend of hers hacking her computer. It seems that about once a week, he hacks into her computer somehow and randomly deletes her emails. She also has a website where she sells dogs and people send her emails requesting information or sales concerning her dogs. When they broke up, he commented that he left a little angel on her computer so she won't be alone. So my question is: Isn't there someway that this person can be caught by software or stopped? She indicated that those she has talked to simply advise her to weekly change her password. Their rational seems to be that if he is a good hacker, hacking software will not stop him. I am no computer geek, but it seems to me that this is wrong and that there should be a way to catch him doing it and prosecute him? Any advise or thoughts?

Me Too!

Perhaps the Sabbath was made for man so that he can and will rest from his labors just as God by example rested from his on the 7th day. The Sabbath comes from the Hebrew word Shabbath meaning day of rest. It is considered a holy day, a day of worship, one in which men turn their souls to the Lord, renew their covenants with him, and feed their souls up the things of the spirit. This principle is one of our great tests and divides the righteous from the worldy. We are counseled to Do Good on the Sabbath. We are counseled to do the Lords work on the Sabbath and do it exclusively. Therefore there should be no unnecessary work of a temporal nature, no recreation, no unnecessary travel, no joy riding, and the like. The operative word is unnecessary. We are also told we will be blessed for keeping the Sabbath Day Holy. It then follows, that if we do not keep the Sabbath Day Holy we will not be blessed.

tizzyk: I am a big advocate of personal prayer and fasting. I would suggest that you take your concerns to the Lord in prayer and fasting and pray that your husbands heart may be touched and softened. That his questions may be answered etc.. I would eccourage you to continue on living the gospel, obeying the commandments and do your best to win your salvation and be the best person you can be. The Lord will take care of the rest. If he refuses and continues on the path he has chosen, then you have done everything you can do, he still has his free agency and will have to answer for his choices. Sisters have been promised that the Lord is merciful and understanding and blessings in the Celestial Kingdom will not be withheld if you are worthy.

Ponderisms · I used to eat a lot of natural foods until I learned that most people die of natural causes. · There are two kinds of pedestrians: the quick and the dead. · Life is sexually transmitted. · Healthy is merely the slowest possible rate at which one can die. · The only difference between a rut and a grave is the depth. · Health nuts are going to feel stupid someday, lying in hospitals dying of nothing. · Have you noticed since everyone has a camcorder these days no one talks about seeing UFOs like they used to? · Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again. · All of us could take a lesson from the weather. It pays no attention to criticism. · In the 60's, people took acid to make the world weird. Now the world is weird and people take Prozac to make it normal. · How is it one careless match can start a forest fire, but it takes a whole box to start a campfire? · Who was the first person to look at a cow and say, 'I think I'll squeeze these dangly things and drink whatever comes out?' · If Jimmy cracks corn and no one cares, why is there a song about him? · If quizzes are quizzical, what are tests? · If corn oil is made from corn, and vegetable oil is made from vegetables, then what is baby oil made from? · Do illiterate people get the full effect of Alphabet Soup? · Does pushing the elevator button more than once make it arrive faster? · Why doesn't glue stick to the inside of the bottle?

Dear Sister: I would counsel you to ask for a personal meeting with your Bishop and then tell him your story. I would encourage you to fast and pray prior to this meeting so you will be intune for the Lords spirit to guide you both. Dallin Oakes counsels the following: Now I speak to married members, especially to any who may be considering divorce. I strongly urge you and those who advise you to face up to the reality that for most marriage problems, the remedy is not divorce but repentance. Often the cause is not incompatibility but selfishness. The first step is not separation but reformation. Divorce is not an all-purpose solution, and it often creates long-term heartache. A broad-based international study of the levels of happiness before and after “major life events” found that, on average, persons are far more successful in recovering their level of happiness after the death of a spouse than after a divorce.3 Spouses who hope that divorce will resolve conflicts often find that it aggravates them, since the complexities that follow divorce—especially where there are children—generate new conflicts. Think first of the children. Because divorce separates the interests of children from the interests of their parents, children are its first victims. Scholars of family life tell us that the most important cause of the current decline in the well-being of children is the current weakening of marriage, because family instability decreases parental investment in children.4 We know that children raised in a single-parent home after divorce have a much higher risk for drug and alcohol abuse, sexual promiscuity, poor school performance, and various kinds of victimization. A couple with serious marriage problems should see their bishop. As the Lord’s judge, he will give counsel and perhaps even discipline that will lead toward healing. Bishops do not counsel members to divorce, but they can help members with the consequences of their decisions. Under the law of the Lord, a marriage, like a human life, is a precious, living thing. If our bodies are sick, we seek to heal them. We do not give up. While there is any prospect of life, we seek healing again and again. The same should be true of our marriages, and if we seek Him, the Lord will help us and heal us. Latter-day Saint spouses should do all within their power to preserve their marriages. They should follow the marriage enrichment counsel in the First Presidency’s message in the April 2007 Ensign and Liahona.5 To avoid so-called “incompatibility,” they should be best friends, kind and considerate, sensitive to each other’s needs, always seeking to make each other happy. They should be partners in family finances, working together to regulate their desires for temporal things. Of course, there can be times when one spouse falls short and the other is wounded and feels pain. When that happens, the one who is wronged should balance current disappointments against the good of the past and the brighter prospects of the future. Don’t treasure up past wrongs, reprocessing them again and again. In a marriage relationship, festering is destructive; forgiving is divine (see D&C 64:9–10). Plead for the guidance of the Spirit of the Lord to forgive wrongs (as President Faust has just taught us so beautifully), to overcome faults, and to strengthen relationships. If you are already descending into the low state of marriage-in-name-only, please join hands, kneel together, and prayerfully plead for help and the healing power of the Atonement. Your humble and united pleadings will bring you closer to the Lord and to each other and will help you in the hard climb back to marital harmony. Consider these observations of a wise bishop with extensive experience in counseling members with marriage problems. Speaking of those who eventually divorced, he said: “Universally, every couple or individual said they recognized that divorce was not a good thing, but they all insisted that their situation was different. “Universally, they focused on the fault of the spouse and attributed little responsibility to their own behavior. Communication had withered. “Universally, they were looking back, not willing to leave the baggage of past behavior on the roadside and move on. “Part of the time, serious sin was involved, but more often they had just ‘fallen out of love,’ saying, ‘He doesn’t satisfy my needs anymore,’ or, ‘She has changed.’ “All were worried about the effect on the children, but always the conclusion was ‘it’s worse for them to have us together and fighting.’ ” In contrast, the couples who followed this bishop’s counsel and stayed together emerged with their marriages even stronger. That prospect began with their mutual commitment to keep the commandments, stay active in their Church attendance, scripture reading, and prayer, and to work on their own shortcomings. They “recognized the importance and power of the Atonement for their spouse and for themselves,” and “they were patient and would try again and again.” When the couples he counseled did these things, repenting and working to save their marriages, this bishop reported that “healing was achieved 100 percent of the time.” Even those who think their spouse is entirely to blame should not act hastily. One study found “no evidence that divorce or separation typically made adults happier than staying in an unhappy marriage. Two out of three unhappily married adults who avoided divorce reported being happily married five years later.”6 A woman who persisted in an intolerable marriage for many years until the children were raised explained: “There were three parties to our marriage—my husband and I and the Lord. I told myself that if two of us could hang in there, we could hold it together.” The power of hope expressed in these examples is sometimes rewarded with repentance and reformation, but sometimes it is not. Personal circumstances vary greatly. We cannot control and we are not responsible for the choices of others, even when they impact us so painfully. I am sure the Lord loves and blesses husbands and wives who lovingly try to help spouses struggling with such deep problems as pornography or other addictive behavior or with the long-term consequences of childhood abuse. Whatever the outcome and no matter how difficult your experiences, you have the promise that you will not be denied the blessings of eternal family relationships if you love the Lord, keep His commandments, and just do the best you can. When young Jacob “suffered afflictions and much sorrow” from the actions of other family members, Father Lehi assured him, “Thou knowest the greatness of God; and he shall consecrate thine afflictions for thy gain” (2 Nephi 2:1–2). Similarly, the Apostle Paul assured us that “all things work together for good to them that love God” (Romans 8:28).

I have witnessed brethren receive the higher priesthood usually for these reasons. Age plus activity, Required as a result of calling received (Bishopric/High Priest Leadership),