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Wow, was it really that long ago that people don't remember the atrocities?

True, because us natives to Speedway take off during that weekend! Woo hoo! Vacation!

Thanks, dude, for that today.

Well, now I'm depressed. Indiana ranked #39.

Hey, that makes me drop dead gorgeous!

Willow, what are you needing help with exactly? Your feelings or the situation? Your feelings are...well, your feelings. You know you need to forgive those involved and that will just take some time and effort on your part. As far as the situation. Well, that's a lot tougher. I agree with Funky that the YW president needs to be informed and asked to take part in welcoming this young girl back. I'm hoping that whether she was right or wrong, that she can see that the feelings of a sensitive, hormonal teen were hurt and take steps necessary to soothe them. Also, I think she should realize that these girls are struggling and enlist the help of the Beehive presidency to take an active interest (or Mia Maid or whatever group they are in). I also think the Bishop needs to be made aware of what happened and how this girl reacted. Again, whether the actions were right or wrong, the fact that this young girl spent the night locked in the bathroom sobbing AND NO ONE NOTICED (??!!) is concerning to me.

Wow, Wingy, what a powerful story about VT. You should encourage your friend to write that up for the Ensign.

Oh, how I love the OED...I'm a geek, I know. This description reminds me of the Scarlet Pimpernel.

I did mean it as a warning 'cause there are some that get their panties in a twist when they hear those words....but I laughed just writing them...

Warning!!!! I'm going to start this post with those much hated words.... When I was on my mission, I was in a discussion with someone who initially indicated that he genuinely wanted to know more. As my companion and I began the discussion, he asked some questions that we answered. Then, something changed. His questions became more pointed and delivered in a harsher voice. He never yelled, but it was apparent that he no longer wanted to know truth, but rather wanted to trip us up, confuse us, or simply intimidate us. I never knew his motives and frankly don't care. All I knew was that the Spirit whispered to me to simply let him rant. I sat there with a slight smile on my face. I wasn't laughing at him...I simply try to keep a smile on my face even when doing nothing. When he finished, I simply stated that I don't believe that and thanked him for his time. What I learned from this experience is that I don't have to defend the Church. I don't have to defend my testimony. I have a responsibility to bear my testimony and correct errors. I will stand in defense of the Church when called upon. But nothing I say or do will ever "defend" the Church and it's beginning. Why? Because some people don't want real answers. They don't want to hear our truth. They want to argue, fight, prove a point, whatever. I am reminded of Jesus when there were times that he was questioned and He "answered not". It's apparent from those events that there are times to simply not say anything at all. I always assume to asker is genuine and truly wants to know...until it's proven otherwise. Then I just stop. Unless the Spirit directs me otherwise, I will not answer.

changed: I respect your choice to boycott these institutions. But I have to disagree with you on the part quoted. If I based the answer to that question on my cable bill, then I would never be able to answer that as "no"--because nearly every show, comedian, commentator, etc. has made fun of my faith in some form or another. As I've discussed that particular question with my bishop and stake president, my understanding of the intent of that question varies from your intepretation as represented in this thread.

Why do fools fall in love? Why do birds sing so gay And lovers await the break of the day Why do they fall in love? Why does the rain fall from up above? Why do fools fall in love? Isn't this the thread to ask all "why" questions?

Cool! My former stake president (now area authority) will be serving as a mission president!

I think it's interesting that the market takes a downtown whenever the stimulus bill or that spending bill is discussed. The market is reacting to measures instituted by Congress as encouraged by Pres. Obama. That makes me think that the market isn't liking these bills too much.

I was thinking on this subject and had 2 good thoughts. Since it's rare enough to have 1 good thought, I just knew I had to share both. 1. I use the phrase more when I am speaking to the youth of the church. I want them to understand how important serving a mission is to me and how it affected my life. Lest any of you think I'm a judgmental wench if someone chooses not to serve a mission, I may express my disappointment ("I'm sorry you decided to not go on a mission"), but then let it go ("but, now you can see me every day while in this ward! Aren't you the lucky one? Sure you don't want to go on a mission??"). When I taught youth SS (I taught the 12-13 y/o), I ALWAYS had a story to go with the lesson. Usually it was a story from my life, and often from my mission. The kids would groan, "Oh Sis. Beef! Not another mission story!" But I had several of the kids tell me privately that they liked my stories and I remember one kid in particular who groaned the loudest used one of my stories in a sacrament talk he had to give (it was over a year after I had been released and I rejoiced to know that he was listening in class!). 2. My mission was not the only spiritual high I've ever had. Yes, I learned a lot from my mission. But as I told a girl friend of mine who was contemplating serving a mission, she can gain experiences and grow spiritually without serving a mission. It's just that a mission forces it on you in a more time driven method. I had spiritual highs before my mission and since my mission. I remember a home teacher I had while at BYU (before my mission)--he said (paraphrasing) that if one says that the mission was the best 2 years of his life, then he isn't living his life right.

I reminisce about when Indiana didn't change clocks either. I still can't get used to it. I usually remember as I'm getting ready for church and realize that I've already missed 1/2 the meetings.

She used her disability money. Yep, this lady has been on disability from the state since 1999. Interesting, isn't it?

I don't think I've gotten any of my email addy's from a ward directory. I've been given the addresses either directly from them, or they have requested my email addy and I got it from an email they sent. Does this still constitute a ward directory?

Question: If I, being a ward member, have nearly all of my ward members email addresses and decide to send a mass email to my ward members, does that constitute using a ward directory? Does it matter if I am the hymn book coordinator or the RS president?

Well, when I was on my mission, I used to always say, "When I was at BYU" or "when I was in my home ward..."

Does this scripture also pertain to Jesus? That He is the same, yesterday, and forever? I'm sorry, I'm not a scriptorian (however that spelled), so if you are referring to another scriptures I would like to know which one. I view Jesus as the same--He was God before and He is God now. He also lived on earth and had a body. Since Jesus is equal to God, I worship them both. I'm not purposely trying to be obstinate. I just truly don't understand why Jesus can be accepted as a man who lived on earth and be God, but the Father cannot be accepted. All things are possible with God and His ways are not my ways. I am not able to understand all that He knows--so how it was accomplished is beyond me. But I can accept it.

Ceebos Boss, that might be a better question for PM rather than for the whole board. I would suggest discussing it with more than 1 moderator.

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You speak cow just fine. I was just thinking maybe you're more LDS than you think you are! Can you accept that God the Father could (noticed I bolded rather than capped )have been like Jesus in the fact that Jesus lived on earth, had a body, became a Savior? I guess that's the part I don't understand. Why can people accept Jesus as One who lived on earth, had a body, lived a life, but not the Father?

Ceebs and John, don't make me stop this car. You will not be happy with the result!