annewandering

Isn't one woman sexually assaulted (whether on or off campus) one too many?

Very different things.  This CDC report (published on September 5th) reports that one in 5 women are raped, and that 40% of women experience some other form of sexual violence in their lifetimes.  Accounting for the potential of overlap, we're looking at 1 in 2 women being sexually assaulted in their lifetimes.
 
What isn't clear from the table, but is discussed more in the text, is that 80% of those events happen before the age of 25.  The more detailed break down is 40% before 18, 40% between 18 and 25, and 20% after age 25. If you want to extrapolate that, 40% of those 1 in 2 women is about 20% of women between 18 and 25 have been sexually assaulted.  
 
You're right, that doesn't translate to 1 in 5 women being sexually assaulted on campus, but it brings up the possibility that 1 in 5 women on campus have been sexually assaulted. (Realistically, that percentage is probably higher because we've ignored the influx of the women assaulted before age 18).  There's a bit of variance there, but the concept doesn't change.  In a class with more than 5 women on a college campus, there's a good chance that one of them has been sexually assaulted in their life.

A bit off topic (from me): but I would love if we could collect the best possible data in order to be able to address such a problem. Unfortunately, for years, NRA lobbying has prevented even the collection of such data.  :grumble:

hmm sounds like a lot of work to me! Can I just be an agitator?

hmm sounds like a lot of work to me! Can I just be an agitator?

hmm sounds like a lot of work to me! Can I just be an agitator?

As an ambassador, would one have a personal chef assigned to him/her?  What about a clothes allowance to attend any formal gatherings?  I'm assuming the formal gatherings will be a potluck dinner in the family room....  

There wouldn't be any need for a change then right?  

Mission accomplished.

hmm sounds like a lot of work to me! Can I just be an agitator?

Only if there is pay so that I can go to the dentist to submit those dental xrays.

I'm pleased to announce our new initiative for recruiting new members to the forum.

 

This has been a long time in the making[1] and has finally gained official approval from the moderating staff[2].  We will begin the roll out starting September 15th, and the program will go live on October 1st.

 

Forum members will be able to volunteer as ambassadors of the program beginning on September 15th.  Approval into the program will require a letter of recommendation from a member of the moderating staff, a personal statement reflecting your desires to participate, and a copy of your dental x-rays.

 

Once you are enrolled, you will be given access to the "Blue Form."  The Blue Form is a specially designed tool that will help you track the people you have reached out to, schedule follow-up Facebook chats, and set goals for bringing people to the love and warmth of the forums.  Each Sunday, you will be expected to tally up your contacts, hours spent e-mailing, and first Facebook chats to report back to the Assistants to the Administrator.  

 

With that being said, a new position is being created in the forums to help administer the outreach program and train new ambassadors.  There will be two Assistants at any given time, and they will be chosen from among the ambassadors for periods of 6 to 12 weeks.  Preference will be given ambassadors with higher reported metrics, though a fluency in corporate inspired synergy speak will also be factored in.

 

We hope you'll consider signing up for this new outreach program.  Expect additional information in the coming days regarding dress code [3], travel policy [4], and financial commitments.  And remember, the harder you work, the more attractive your avatar will be.

 

 

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[1] totally....like, three whole minutes

[2] and by official approval, I mean, they've never heard of it.

[3] true ambassadors wouldn't e-mail in pajamas--there is NO quiet dignity in pajamas.

[4] you'll be expected to provide transportation to your own computer

My gosh. It is no wonder some women just give up and end up hating men. My husband is not a sexist in any way so I know there are good men out there. How can any one say that catcalling, hooting etc are not harassment? How can anyone say that providing a heads up that the material, video etc might be upsetting to rape victims is bad? Where is compassion? Understanding. Elder Holland's talk, "Like a Broken Vessel" is one of the greatest talks ever on compassion and hope for those who have mental issues, whatever the cause.
Only 1 in 5 women have been raped? What about molested or sexually assaulted? My guess is it is more like 1 in 2.  So does fighting back make us weak? Does it make us unworthy? I seem to recall something about refiners fire making us stronger not weaker.
It is my experience that many women who are degraded and mocked by men tend to become quite hostile and antimen. I wonder why?  By us condoning bad behavior in men the Priesthood is attacked in a very real way. Why do you think those women who want the priesthood do not trust the priesthood bearers? Is it their lack of faith in God or their lack of faith in man? I do not condone rallies and protests against the church but I do blame many of the men, and women, in the church for allowing this to be an issue by disregarding legitimate issues women have encountered. By disregarding the issues it has given satan a foothold to cause dissention. We do not need that. We need to work together not against each other.    And we for sure dont need people telling us women are weak because we fight for women. Oh and on a side note yes we do fight for, and need to fight for, men who have been abused as well. There are a lot more than most anyone wants to admit.

My gosh. It is no wonder some women just give up and end up hating men. My husband is not a sexist in any way so I know there are good men out there. How can any one say that catcalling, hooting etc are not harassment? How can anyone say that providing a heads up that the material, video etc might be upsetting to rape victims is bad? Where is compassion? Understanding. Elder Holland's talk, "Like a Broken Vessel" is one of the greatest talks ever on compassion and hope for those who have mental issues, whatever the cause.
Only 1 in 5 women have been raped? What about molested or sexually assaulted? My guess is it is more like 1 in 2.  So does fighting back make us weak? Does it make us unworthy? I seem to recall something about refiners fire making us stronger not weaker.
It is my experience that many women who are degraded and mocked by men tend to become quite hostile and antimen. I wonder why?  By us condoning bad behavior in men the Priesthood is attacked in a very real way. Why do you think those women who want the priesthood do not trust the priesthood bearers? Is it their lack of faith in God or their lack of faith in man? I do not condone rallies and protests against the church but I do blame many of the men, and women, in the church for allowing this to be an issue by disregarding legitimate issues women have encountered. By disregarding the issues it has given satan a foothold to cause dissention. We do not need that. We need to work together not against each other.    And we for sure dont need people telling us women are weak because we fight for women. Oh and on a side note yes we do fight for, and need to fight for, men who have been abused as well. There are a lot more than most anyone wants to admit.

ISIS, as a theology, as a religion, as an organization, are evil.  The souls that make up desperately need the LORD.  Caesar may have to come at them with the sword.  Believers in Christ may compose many of the soldiers that engage in the coming battles.  They do well to battle evil.  Nevertheless, our martyrs (those Christians executed for refusing to renounce Christ) will be honored, and it may well be that their spilled blood will bring a wave of saving faith to that troubled land. 

My gosh. It is no wonder some women just give up and end up hating men. My husband is not a sexist in any way so I know there are good men out there. How can any one say that catcalling, hooting etc are not harassment? How can anyone say that providing a heads up that the material, video etc might be upsetting to rape victims is bad? Where is compassion? Understanding. Elder Holland's talk, "Like a Broken Vessel" is one of the greatest talks ever on compassion and hope for those who have mental issues, whatever the cause.
Only 1 in 5 women have been raped? What about molested or sexually assaulted? My guess is it is more like 1 in 2.  So does fighting back make us weak? Does it make us unworthy? I seem to recall something about refiners fire making us stronger not weaker.
It is my experience that many women who are degraded and mocked by men tend to become quite hostile and antimen. I wonder why?  By us condoning bad behavior in men the Priesthood is attacked in a very real way. Why do you think those women who want the priesthood do not trust the priesthood bearers? Is it their lack of faith in God or their lack of faith in man? I do not condone rallies and protests against the church but I do blame many of the men, and women, in the church for allowing this to be an issue by disregarding legitimate issues women have encountered. By disregarding the issues it has given satan a foothold to cause dissention. We do not need that. We need to work together not against each other.    And we for sure dont need people telling us women are weak because we fight for women. Oh and on a side note yes we do fight for, and need to fight for, men who have been abused as well. There are a lot more than most anyone wants to admit.

My gosh. It is no wonder some women just give up and end up hating men. My husband is not a sexist in any way so I know there are good men out there. How can any one say that catcalling, hooting etc are not harassment? How can anyone say that providing a heads up that the material, video etc might be upsetting to rape victims is bad? Where is compassion? Understanding. Elder Holland's talk, "Like a Broken Vessel" is one of the greatest talks ever on compassion and hope for those who have mental issues, whatever the cause.
Only 1 in 5 women have been raped? What about molested or sexually assaulted? My guess is it is more like 1 in 2.  So does fighting back make us weak? Does it make us unworthy? I seem to recall something about refiners fire making us stronger not weaker.
It is my experience that many women who are degraded and mocked by men tend to become quite hostile and antimen. I wonder why?  By us condoning bad behavior in men the Priesthood is attacked in a very real way. Why do you think those women who want the priesthood do not trust the priesthood bearers? Is it their lack of faith in God or their lack of faith in man? I do not condone rallies and protests against the church but I do blame many of the men, and women, in the church for allowing this to be an issue by disregarding legitimate issues women have encountered. By disregarding the issues it has given satan a foothold to cause dissention. We do not need that. We need to work together not against each other.    And we for sure dont need people telling us women are weak because we fight for women. Oh and on a side note yes we do fight for, and need to fight for, men who have been abused as well. There are a lot more than most anyone wants to admit.

How is a trigger warning censoring? I see it more as giving a heads up, so that persons who do not wish to be exposed to whatever it is have the opportunity to remove/excuse themselves, similar to the warnings that sometimes appear before television shows warning of violent content.

Trigger warning labels are censorship in the same way that Explicit Lyrics warnings are censorship--they're not.

That's a bit off topic, as I'm not aware of anything in this thread stating that rape prevention was weakening modern women.
 
One of the issues srmaher has with modern feminism is that it is "weakening" women by doing things like putting trigger warnings on literature.  According to the CDC's report, some 1.6 million women under the age of 25 were raped in the previous year, with an additional 5.2 million suffering another form of sexual assault.  About half of those women are college aged.  This would suggest that in any given year, colleges across the use are deal with 3.2 million rape victims and 10.2 million victims of other sexual assaults.  For many of these women, the psychological damage is deep and may not be fully resolved...especially if it happened recently.
 
The sad fact is that women who are sexually assaulted in college have some of the highest drop out rates.  So the reality is that placing the trigger warnings may actually be empowering women--by establishing an environment less likely to trigger their traumatic memories; an environment more conducive to helping them finish their educations and accomplish their goals. 
 
There is nothing empowering about facing down your demons before you are prepared to do so.  

Okay, maybe I stand corrected.  Feminism is definitely weakening women for no good reason.  The CDC just released a report and found that ONLY 1 in 5 US women has experienced rape in their lives.  There's definitely nothing to be squeamish about here :eyeroll:
 
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/ss6308a1.htm?s_cid=ss6308a1_e#Table1

Or maybe you're just listening to the strands that reinforce your world view.

Hmmmm...I see that all as equally uninvited, and equally inappropriate.

What do you see as being the difference between a whistle and a cat-call?
Your comparison doesn't stand up.  "Wow, he's a hunk" is something you say privately to the friend who is with you -- it's not a forward or uninvited comment made to said hunk.

Of course, 2 Thes 2-3 is classically used by the LDS church to speak of the Great Apostasy, and the "man of sin" referred to is Satan. It has nothing to do with the temple in Jerusalem.