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It's illegal in the UK too

This. +1

Try deleting your comment from illumined that simply says nothing but "stalk" several times. Watch the page go back to normal, then yell at illumined for not putting spaces in his text :) (on some browsers, the comment is the same colour as the page background, so press CTRL & A together to highlight the page and then you'll see it).

It got there because someone bought a copy and is sharing it over the internet - there is no other way it could happen. Bear in mind that this activity is not illegal is some countries

Without knowing the full story, sounds like she was a bit annoyed she had to prove she was pregnant and rebelled by coming in a day after the deadline to hand the note in.

Clearly you have never been to Birmingham

I logged into my e-mail account one morning to find about 20 e-mails, all sent from two different people. Basically it was an argument between the two, but the person who initiated the argument had "accidently replied all" to an e-mail sent by the intended recipient of his e-mail to several people a few months previously, both him and I being in those recipients. The intended recipient realised there had been a reply all, but due to the argument already being made public, she decided to keep it public, hence the build up of 20 or so e-mails.

Can't say I have I'm afraid.

I'm not sure about this. I'll clarify in the church handbook of instructions when I get back and re-post on here once I've confirmed.

By all means. But having a "discussion" doesn't miraculously make them able to go. They can be encouraged to go on a mission (which is the most likely outcome of such a meeting), but it doesn't mean they will be able to cope with it any more than before this meeting. Besides, I'm pretty sure a meeting of this nature would occur anyway, usually a bishop will speak to all active young men of mission-sending age to find out what it is they plan to do.

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I don't mind publishing my phone number on facebook so much. Fortunately that is one of those things that I can change with considerable ease and without any major loss to myself. I wouldn't just send it to a random group however.

I'm not referring to Christ like attributes. I'm referring to a persons mental and emotional stability, and being able to deal with the stresses that a mission entails at that point in their life. The church has textbook cases listed where a person can be honourably excused because the church doesn't believe that those people would be able to deal with the stresses of a mission. Autistic people I believe are listed, as an example. But this does not mean that those who don't meet this criteria of being honourably excused are able to go. Every person is different, and each individual knows for themselves whether it is the right thing for them or not. Maybe a person is autistic, but hasn't been diagnosed before he reaches 19? That's just one example. He may feel he is not able to go because he doesn't feel he can cope with going on a mission, but does this mean he needs to repent?

No, but we do have roundabouts that I would ensure you got the full experience of :)

Alright, so what about a young man who was not officially honourably excused, because he didn't meet the textbook criteria in order to be honourably excused. But he also felt that going on a mission might have a very negative effect on him. So he decides not to go, because that he feels is the right thing for him. Of those who meet the textbook criteria of being able to go on a mission, not everyone in that group will still be able to deal with it - it's down to each individual to decide. Would you say that young man has committed a sin, and expect him to repent?

This is unfortunately true of an awful lot of Americans, usually those who have never left America at any point in their lives. Even Britain has an interesting (and extremely odd) view by a lot of Americans. We had one American missionary here who thought he was going to find loads of thatched cottages, and someone else said they were expecting us to all be in suits of armour and castles Anyway, the world outside of America is generally a lot more advanced than a lot of people within America think. I admit it's a bit of a bane of contention (and the reason why America can be disliked here) sometimes when Americans just assume that the world just revolves around them and that most of the latest discoveries and inventions are made by Americans (that's not pointing at anyone on this forum, just from my interactions with Americans in general). Neither of these are by any means true.

I don't think there is a fallacy to it. Lets say I was given two choices of where he could have been treated: - A well meaning charity, may have a good track record, however as it is still a charity it will still have fluctuations in the donations and other sources of funds that it uses to treat its patients. There is no legal obligation for them to provide treatment, the treatment comes simply from the goodness of the hearts of the American population, which is a big variable. - A government organisation (the NHS) which is legally obliged to provide necessary and feasible professional medical treatment to British citizens, as that is what British citizens pay for. The NHS is also monitored by third party organisations which have some degree of power over the NHS, and they will ensure that they comply with this legal requirement. I know which one I'd prefer to go to if I had a choice and my life was at stake.

Feel free to if you want, might be good for another thread though, I have a habit of inadvertently taking threads off topic :)

It's not entirely true that the internet is uncontrollable. Technically it's controllable globally far more than it is now, but politically it's a nightmare and doing so will destroy what we now know as the internet, which is why it hasn't happened. The internet is a mesh network, but there are still central points from which it can in theory be controlled a lot more than it currently is. Either way I wasn't giving the information as an analogy to what apple were doing, just merely giving some related information. I know that apple have full control over their apps store.

At one point someone high up proposed putting all pornography websites into a .XXX top level domain (like .com, .net or .org). The advantage would be that filters would have a far easier job, as filtering content is a nightmare at the moment, and is the bane of any network engineers existence. If only this could be enforced though...

It's relevant because I was making a point that your assumption of this: Is not true. Not in that context. No, not us specifially. I was however making the point that it's a good thing that EVERYONE has the ability to do this if they need it. We needed it and we got it. That is a good thing. That is what the NHS is all about, and that is the point of my initial statement. So yes, I was saying it was a good thing, but just not in the way you assumed.

Excuse me? Do you think we wanted it to be this way? Do you think my cousin, or any of us as his family wanted him to have such a serious heart condition? Do you think we wanted to have to take more from the British public than we gave back? At what point did I ever say any of this? The medical care he has had has cost the NHS (and therefore the British public) hundreds upon hundreds of thousands of pounds. This is money that WE as a family cannot afford to pay - very few people in this world could afford to pay it. I have not once said I am glad it had to be this way, however I'm glad that option was available in order to save my cousins life - what sane person would not take it and be grateful for it when it is offered to them? Without social health care, that option would never have been available to us. Ands FYI, every single member of my nuclear and extended family is working and paying their taxes accordingly. No-one is living off the state so to speak. We are paying as much money back as we have the ability to do.

I was always under the impression it was taking the lords name in vain as well. Usually replaced with "oh my gosh". :) EDIT: Haha, Elphaba got there before me... guess that's what happens when you get distracted while replying to a thread

My 14 year old cousin has a very serious, but also very rare heart condition (there were only five others with the condition in the UK at the time of his birth). For the first year of his life, he spent the vast majority of it in hospital. He has had countless open heart surgery operations, and will eventually need a heart transplant when he is about 18. If we lived in America, I seriously believe he would be dead now. With the amount of time he has spent in hospital, and the amount of very serious operations carried out on him, and yet to still be carried out, no insurer would ever have accepted him, that I can think of. I may be wrong, but I believe that having social health care saved my cousins life. We certainly have received far more from the NHS than we have ever paid into it via taxes.

Certainly can in the UK. All a person needs is my name and age, or name and rough location and they will get my exact address off the electoral roll. Google street view can then give them a shot of my house. The details are not current in my case, but it's amazing how much information is out there free for all.