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I had modified my previous message. It wasn't expressing fully what I was trying to say. Well, why didn't you say that in the first place? That is a horse of a different color. I can identify with that. I am like you in that sense. Why people do what they do is an interest of mine also, and I often learn from others and it helps me to look at myself objectivly as well.

Dear Prospectmom: Thank you for your reply. Your question, when I really think about it was a fair one. I should be apologizing to you. I did not mean to come off as one on the defensive, but I was not offended:p As I had mentioned, I am actually learning a lot on here even though I present challenges. I am looking to challenge my faith as well. Because of these challenges, my faith has grown stronger. By the way, I agree with a lot I hear as well, and sometimes I mention that I do. I am here not only to be offered things, but also to give. I hope that answers your question, and that you don't mind challenges.

Good night

Many false prophets will rise in the last days. We are living in it. I recognize the prophets in the Bible as the authority source. Why should I have to receive others if they cannot prove through Scriptures in the Bible they are supposed to be in a position of authority regarding the church? How do we know that they are not trying to hijack the faith like Jim Jones, David Corresh, David Berg, CT Russel, Rev Sung Yung Moon, Muhammad and you name it? We have to judge whether or not these prophets line up with Scripture if they don't, we should stone the hell out of their message if you will!

I hope your not referring to my message. If so, you haven't understood me or your putting words in my mouth again or both. You lost me. What is specifically twisted and bent beyond recognition so that they no longer look like His Gospel?

But I am not referring to Constantine, the early church and the Council of Nicea. I go by the Scriptures in the Bible. Can you find or prove that I have shared something that is not according to knowledge in Scripture? If not, what are you trying to convince me of? Do you not claim the Bible as the word of God? I will grant you one thing like I do for the JWs that come to my house to proselytize. That is that the term trinity is not in the Bible. So what, The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are in there. They are three distinct personalities and there is only one God go figure. Three is what trinity means. There is no sense making such a big deal of it as do the cult JWs. According to them, they are the only ones who will rule and reign with Christ. Barf!

I can identify with that you have spoken. God is not just just Justice. He is all just, and He is mericful that means not giving us what is just, and God is Love. He so beautifully balances all of His attributes. Praise God!All puns intended.

It sounds like you have been around. I like the things you share. By the way, did you listen to the songs I wrote and played on youtube?

Thank you Dravin. I preceive you have spoken truth, but isn't that what we are all doing, and isn't that what God wants us to do? :) I am actually learning a lot on here even though I present challenges. I don't think there is anyone afraid of challenges. I am not, and I am looking to challenge my faith. Because of challenges like these, I have grown in my faith. I am hoping others can grow in theirs as well.

Wait a minute. Lets back up a little please. What would make you think that I came on here just to be offered things and not give anything. Are you implying, I don't have anything to offer? Moreover, what makes you think that I cannot receive or take anything offered. Is because I haven't agreed with some of the posts? What exactly is it you're wanting me to explain?

Nor will tithing and not drinking wine save you or guarantee heaven. You responded to Dravin about drinking using Joseph as your source:Ro 14 States that we should keep what we believe about meat and drink to ourselves. Happy is the man who does not condemn himself in what he has the faith to do. As long as he doesn't offend someone, it is between him and his God. Why should I let someone put me in the bondage of their limited faith on what I can or cannot drink when I am home alone not stumbling anyone? Ro. 14: 17 For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost. 18 For he that in these things serveth Christ is acceptable to God, and approved of men. 19 Let us therefore follow after the things which make for peace, and things wherewith one may edify another. 20 For meat destroy not the work of God. All things indeed are pure; but it is evil for that man who eateth with offence. 21 It is good neither to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor any thing whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak. 22 Hast thou faith? have it to thyself before God. Happy is he that condemneth not himself in that thing which he alloweth. 23 And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin. Is Paul a false prophet here? He says: No one should tell anyone what they should or should not eat or drink. It is OKay as long as you don't offend anyone with your food or drink!

Whua??? Justice, this post of yours patronizes me and starts off presumptuously and ends the every same way. You ask me a question and answer it for me, and then you offer suggestions. No, The end-time prophet David gave us modern interpretation of scripture and new wine from God. God put it on my heart to chuck what did not line up with the Bible. I took a step of faith doing this and it paid off. That simply sounds like someone has paraphrased part of the Bible. What makes you think I am wasting it? Is it because I am not agreeing with you? You haven't given any reason to believe that you have something to offer me other than your misunderstanding of faith and works in relationship to eternal life. You haven't even convinced me that you really know Jesus. Who is Jesus to you? I asked you that question and you didn't answer it. Says who? God has given me the Bible. I haven't even scratched the surface of all I can learn from that alone. Why do I need more. It is like giving someone truths as numerous as the sands of the sea to understand in this life and telling him "By the way, here are some more new truths" Please speak for yourself. You may be running in circles, I have a destination. Did it ever occur to you that I am a wise man who has learned from his mistake; therefore, my experience is not wasted. Let me now leave you with this: A wise man learns from his mistakes; a wiser man still, learns from the mistakes of others!

When it comes to matters of the soul, our feelings make a wonderful servant but a very poor leader! It is written: "My people perish for lack of knowledge" Many people believe in Jesus in different ways; for instance, Muslims believe He is a great prophet but not the Son of God. Cults like Jehovah Witnesses believe Jesus is the only angel God calls His son. Moreover, there are other Christians that believe that Jesus is a created being. All Christians build on the foundation of Christ in different ways, but some will receive rewards and some will suffer loss. All will suffer loss, however, regardless of what they do if they don't know who Jesus really is and how to build on the chief corner stone foundation of our eternal souls. Jesus is the Word of God made flesh. Jesus is God in the flesh; He is the creator of every living creature on earth and at all levels and dimensions of heaven. When it comes to knowing Jesus, tithing is the very least of my concerns. To know Christ, NOT ABOUT Him, is to have eternal life! Who is Jesus to you?

When it comes to matters of the soul, our feelings make a wonderful servant but a very poor leader! It is written: "My people perish for lack of knowledge" Many people believe in Jesus in different ways; for instance, Muslims believe He is a great prophet but not the Son of God. Cults like Jehovah Witnesses believe Jesus is the only angel God calls His son. Moreover, there are other Christians that believe that Jesus is a created being. All Christians build on the foundation of Christ in different ways, but some will receive rewards and some will suffer loss. All will suffer loss, however, regardless of what they do if they don't know who Jesus really is and how to build on the chief corner stone foundation of our eternal souls. Jesus is the Word of God made flesh. Jesus is God in the flesh; He is the creator of every living creature on earth and at all levels and dimensions of heaven. When it comes to knowing Jesus, tithing is the very least of my concerns. To know Christ, NOT ABOUT Him, is to have eternal life!

An important question is knowing who Jesus is. Who is Jesus to you?

Hell was not created for people

I think I agree.

You sent a repeat of your post instead of answering the questions.

I wrote the song Some people for atheist I wrote Deception for those in religious deception.

That is very interesting. May I ask what your giftings are and what is your religious persuasion?I was born and raised Catholic, but I didn't remain Catholic although all my family remains Catholic. They don't understand that I just prefer to identify myself as a simple Christian with no denominational affiliation whatsoever. I have been involved in a cult; so, I know deception when I see it. I thank God for His deliverance. I am an artist and a musician. I am also a licensed public school teacher.

I am taking a big step back to bed. I don't think anyone has attacked me personally on this forum nor do I think I have attacked anyone personally. If I have been attacked or have attacked anyone I would very much like to see where. I think it has been a very good discussion and there is a lot of learning going on. Good night.

I don't understand why it doesn't show both sides of the dialogue either, other forums do. I know this one can too. Someone needs to program it so. Next time, I'll try to cut and past things together.

What do you mean? I agreed with this. I didn't keep repeating you. I didn't say that James didn't work out his salvation with fear and trembling until the day he died, relying on the merits of Christ. I said, and have been saying that James didn't work for his gift of salvation, and what he did was not only for his gain, it was for ours too. This is the first thing you said that I agree with 100% I gave my understanding of belief and faith and works. You do put words in my mouth. God is not willing that any should perish but that all should come to the knowledge of truth. Our right standing with God; our salvation; eternal life or the entering of the joy of the Lord depends on us coming to the knowledge of truth. Jesus is the Truth the Life and the Way. I don't believe a person can choose to stop living a sinful life on his own because he is a prisoner and slave to his sin. "Whom the Son sets free is free in deed" The freedom Christ gives is for us to make the right choices in life not do to what we want. All we can do is ask Christ for his mercy. When we receive it, we are free to do good works allowing him to work through us and in us. The problem is there are many people who say they have Christ and the gift he gives that do not. People like that are Christians in name only who have a religious spirit. They have a zeal but not according to knowledge. Nominal Christians can only produce dead works in that state. They need to humble themselves and pray for God's forgiveness and Mercy. Then they can work out their own salvation. Have you ever ask God in Jesus' name to deliver you from deception? I have and He did. Have you?

Bro Rudick:I have enjoyed your posts. Thank you for sharing. You have good insight in the Scriptures it seems.