Danite

It seems to me at the end of the day the question I ask my self is does it edify? The idea is to lift one another and inspire each to be more Christlike.

I personally believe that debate has no place at all in a gospel discussion because often the focus changes ,from what is right, to who is right.If we are trying honestly to seek the mind and will of Heavenly Father on the matter , then pondering and praying seem to me as the road to follow. I can not see what purpose is served by debate other than to prove a point. What is right is always more important then, who is right

The real problem is unrighteous kings, when they start to abuse there power and authority, If we could always have a righteous king, I believe that would the ideal. Will not one day the Savior come and reign as the King of Kings, It seems to this more like the true form of Goverment in Heaven.

Count me in on the praying and fasting.

Well I'm not sure that all of us are chastised in the same way or time. I do believe that blessings are predicated on law and when we knowing break the law those blessing which we might have received may be withheld until we repent. I don't think Heavenly Father is trying to get us , I think it's more like we get our selves. (talking about chastiisment)

In my view this a personal decision between you ,your wife, and the spirt. I know it has been different for me with each of my children.Some brothers in clud, missions Temple Marriage in all there blessings to children. I say follow the spirt first ,last and always you can't go wrong.

Being from Virginia I assumed Thanks for clarifying it for me, I'm still learning this process

I'm sorry your hurting , I know anything I say will be weak or stupid. some times the labor pains to be born agian are long and hard. and repentance means suffering. if it came to easy we would make a joke out of the atonement ,just as if Jesus never lived or died for us. what your going thru now, is why so many of us give up, Please understand dear sister you not a lone. I have prayed for to our Heavenly Father that he might give you a portion of his spirt as you return to him.

sacrament meeting and new member

boy I might alot older than but what just said was common pratice some of wards I grew up. Sometimes the church is like Noahs ark, if it wasn't for the storm on the outside, you couldn't stand the smell on the inside My DAd

Wow I understand that you must be very furstrated with ward members who judge and condem all that are not like them. Which only serves to hurt those whose opinions are different then own what deeply concerns me is the spirt of pride and self rightness that these members seem to have. Sometimes looking at the truth about people is very depressing. The truth is living the simple sweet truths of the gospel of Jesus Christ. Our greastest enemies are often within our selfs and the church. It takes alot of discerment to tell the saint's from aint's. Sometimes the church is like Noah's Ark if it wasn't for the storm on the outside, you couldn't stand the smell on the inside. enduring myself and others

ok folks he's the deal you must get permission from your stake president to attend another ward, this how i've seen done in the past. beleive me he'll give you permission

I have been a life long member of the church and it has blessed my life and the life of my family. as you listen to the missionary go to your Heavenly and ask him if what there telling you is true and listen to the still small vioce and the Holy ghost will tell the truth of all things

I'm new to this site and have enjoyed very much I hope to be able learn from you an the others