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First things first - your son's condition has nothing to do with whether your husband "messed up" or not. Your anger at God is stemming from a belief that God is somehow responding to every last thing that we do with our actions. It seems, culturally, we as LDS seem to forget the breadth of the Atonement and what it means to actually progress through the repentance process.

Mostly. Zina Young would be a notable exception.

Actually, by way of clarification, it was not instituted "as a way to deal with the numerous single mothers...." This is a common misconception. It was instituted as revealed in D&C 132.

Huh?

Bushman's book is the seminal work, IMO.

I wouldn't dismiss Brodie out of hand. Her research is considered quite reliable by many LDS scholars (Bushman, for example). Some of her conclusions leave something to be desired, but her research is pretty solid.

Tim - Contact me...you have my information.

Just as a point of clarification - there's nothing written in stone that says just because you are LDS you have to have a "LDS Funeral". If you choose to have the funeral at an LDS chapel, it's subject to Priesthood direction and will need to conform to the CHI. However, if one wants to deviate from that, there's a whole world of possibilities out there. From my personal experience - my Dad died about 8 years ago. He hadn't been active in the Church since he was 12. In all likelihood, I could have had his funeral at an LDS chapel, but chose not to...no one there would have known him and really he didn't want anything held anyway. We had a short service in Las Vegas (where he was living) for family and some of his old pilot friends. We then flew his body to Ogden, UT for burial where we had a brief graveside service just for family and I dedicated the grave. That was it.

Two words - HOLY CRAP!

I love Phoenix.

I was just up in SLC for a work emergency (had to go meet with some folks whose business burned down). I am currently VERY glad my flight was last night and not today.

You are wise.

Maybe...any desire to live in Arizona?

I'm an accountant, but I don't do traditional accounting work (taxes and such). I investigate fraud, financial loss, and provide expert witness testimony - forensic accounting. Tim Tribe - LinkedIn

I have my Dad's S&W .22 revolver that is an absolute joy to shoot. Super easy and very high quality. Not a revolver, but I am thinking very seriously about purchasing one of these:Sig P250

I have one for Danite Patrol once a month...oh wait...I don't think I was supposed to say that.

Oh my...I just about lost it on that Desert Eagle video.

What this thread touches upon is the concept of Affinity Fraud. Several months ago, on another board, I was addressing the issue of Utah having a very high rate of such frauds perpetrated on the population. Here's an excerpt of what I wrote, as it seems to apply here: Affinity frauds occur because fraudsters are able to exploit a natural sociological phenomenon. Namely, we have a natural tendency to trust people who seem to be "like us" in some way that it important to us and fraud, by its very nature, is a violation of trust. Affinity scams may run across a variety of different types of sources of human similarity: race, religion, political affiliation, geographic isolation, gender, ethnic origin, family, age group, etc. In the case of Utah, it is my opinion and observation that Utah experiences abnormally high levels of affinity fraud for several reasons, some of which are related to the Church culture: 1 - A significant proportion of the population belongs to the same religion; 2 - The vast majority of the population belongs to the same political party; 3 - The vast majority of the population is a single race; 4 - A significant proportion of the population comes from similar roots (i.e. pioneers) which lends to creation of "reputations" by last name; 5 - Many generations of families tend to remain nearby (these frauds spread like wildfire in families); 6 - Utah communities tend toward a rather "old fashioned" tone whereby being neighborly is a core value. This builds trust. Are some of these outgrowths of Church culture? Absolutely. The reason you see such high rates on Utah is because it is one of the only places in the U.S. where you have such a concentration of these factors. A major example of affinity fraud is the Madoff scam and his success amongst New York's Jewish population. I'm not sure anyone would try to argue that there's anything that makes Jews inherently more prone to becoming fraud victims, it's just that affinity frauds prey on groups. It's what they do. These types of frauds are very common in rural southern towns in the U.S. where the demographics are very similar to Utah, for example. Here are some affinity fraud stories: http://www.crimes-of-persuasion.com/Crimes/InPerson/MajorPerson/affinity.htm Affinity Faith-Based Investment Fraud Church Scams The Fraternal Order Of Fraud Victims http://www.acfe.com/madoff-case/Chasing-Madoff.pdf Here are some additional stats on race from 2004 survey performed by the the FTC: - 11.2 % of the U.S. adult population, or 25 million people, were victims of fraud in the study year; - 34% of Native Americans and Alaska Natives were victims of fraud; - 17% of African Americans were victims of fraud; - 14% of Hispanics were victims of fraud; - 6% of non-Hispanic whites were victims of fraud. I don't think there's anything about being Native American that makes an individual a more likely fraud victim other than the fact that they are often part of a tightly-knit group. The fact is ANY tightly-knot group of the population is more likely to be the victims of fraud.

I'm game. Here are some pictures of my DD/Project/Hobby: Finally! A-Spec's are on! - AcuraZine Community

Seen U2 three times now. They are one of those bands that are better live than recorded, and really the only ones I'm currently willing to pay to see.

The day I look to Michael Moore for guidance and direction on economics is the day I hand in my CPA license.

Yep, which is why his stuff fits in well at Signature.

Agreed. I've found my reading of that set to be very useful.

It's been a WHILE since signature published anything like Articles of Faith.

Lol! I suppose there is some irony in my statement. The point I was trying to make is that there appears to be an "agenda" being served by much of what Signature does, and which they do not acknowledge. Namely, they tend to lean towards a rather negative view in their analysis of Church history. This becomes especially problematic insomuch as the study of any history requires the interpretation of events and, oftentimes, "filling in the blanks" where documentation can't.