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Part of the problem with bullying is that those in the very positions who could offer help and sort the problem often think that standing for what you know to be the truth in the name of the Lord means that you are apostate. The bully sometimes deceives leaders by being charming while the victim appears emotional, angry and unforgiving. Not only do the targets suffer emotionally, they can suffer spiritual alienation and crisis in church settings. There is pressure on the target (victim) to “turn the other cheek” to empathise with and forgive the bully, and to protect the church from harm and scandal. Beware of spiritualising what is happening. Bullying is a form of abuse and responsibility rests with the abuser. We do need to forgive and the bullies need to be stopped. An article I found helpful came from this website https://www.melbourne.anglican.com.au/main.php?pg=news&news_id=3882&s=2191'> https://www.melbourne.anglican.com.au/main.php?pg=news&news_id=3882&s=2191 although not from our church it describes very well what happens in any church bullying situation. “He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it” (Martin Luther King).

That's what I loved about President Hinckley he made having a sense of humour OK. Here in Australia it was late afternoon on Monday 28th January that he left us (being 7pm Sunday 27 USA time). I remember writing in my journal at the time "I love his sense of humour it was so refreshing to see him laugh and to have others laugh because of him." I am glad he's with his beloved wife and not needing a cane even if that means no more knighting. :)

Buon giorno come stai? :) It is great to 'meet' someone from Italy. My father's family all came from the north of Italy - Piedmont and Lombardia. They emigrated to the cane fields of QLD Australia in the 1910's & 1920's. I am proud of my Italian ancestry and would love to go to Italy someday. Dream dream dream!! :) I am not afraid of how you say things in English, you did well. I don't speak Italian only what I learnt at school and that wasn't much. Thank you for your comments.

Welcome Peace_B_Un_2U to our nice space I see you have been teleported through the asteroid fields in your flying saucer. If you rub your skin does it go green? Did you know there are aliens in the scriptures? Isa. 61: 5 "I have been an alien in a strange land" Ex. 18: 3 Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens. http://www.sciencemuseum.org.uk/about_us/doing_business_with_us/publications/~/media/Images/header/column_2/full/GreetingsEarthlingsNoBlast_182%20gif.ashx PS I come from a land downunder 2

:(My heart breaks for you and I am glad that my post was somewhat supportive. It is not easy to deal with bullying expecially when you are not believed by those in positions who can do something about it. At the time the Stake and Branch Presidents were warned by a (higher) leader in a meeting with the target sister and myself that if the bullying wasn't stopped the goal of the Branch becoming a Ward would not succeed. They were warned that the Branch would decrease instead. A year on and the prediction came to pass I must admit the bullying for this sister went on for 20 years too I said a decade because I thought it would sound like I was exaggerating if I said 20. LOLAlthough she managed to leave for a couple of years respite by travelling hours to a friendly normal ward but financially it became too much a burden so she had to go back to the Branch. On her return she was yelled at in the car park and told she wasn't welcome. Her children were treated badly by the bullies too with some refusing to go to church. Sad but true and that is the dangerous thing about bullying, the bullies direct the blame to their target and it goes unchecked. They have an uncanny ability to convice leaders to 'interview' the target about their accused 'offenses'. I couldn't believe this would happen at church when the target sister told me this had happened to her; until it happened to me. I still to this day do not know what was said about me that prompted an interview with the BP his counsellors, the accuser and me in attendance. I just know that I was finally believed enough to be able to leave the room with the particular bully sister crying "it isn't fair". Here are a few points on serial bullies that I gave the target sister from the website Bully OnLine: . It's wealth of information was of great benefit and reassurance to her and helped her understand what bullying is - she didn't have a name for what was happening to her so it was a relief for her to know. The serial bully: is unusually skilled in being able to anticipate what people want to hear and then saying it plausibly excels at deception and should never be underestimated in their capacity to deceive has a Jekyll and Hyde nature - is vile, vicious and vindictive in private, but innocent and charming in front of witnesses; no-one can (or wants to) believe this individual has a vindictive nature - only the current target of the serial bully's aggression sees both sides; whilst the Jekyll side is described as "charming" and convincing enough to deceive personnel, management and a tribunal, the Hyde side is frequently described as "evil"; Hyde is the real person, Jekyll is an act is adept at creating conflict between those who would otherwise collate incriminating information about themoften has an overwhelming, unhealthy and narcissistic attention-seeking need to portray themselves as a wonderful, kind, caring and compassionate person, in contrast to their behaviour and treatment of others; the bully sees nothing wrong with their behavior and chooses to remain oblivious to the discrepancy between how they like to be seen and how they are seen by others When held accountable, abusers, molesters, harassers, bullies and violent people abdicate and deny responsibility for their actions by blaming their victim. Bullying is behaviour, and behaviour is a choice, therefore bullying is a choice - a bad choice, but a choice. Bullying is in the same league as abuse, molestation, rape, paedophilia and harassment;sadly there are still some people who think that targets of these vile activities are partly responsible for the abuse perpetrated against them. Targets of bullying have no interest in power or exercising power. They go to work to work and they are not interested in office politics or conflict.Targets of bullying have high moral values, a well-developed integrity, a vulnerability (eg need to pay the mortgage if bullied at work), a strong sense of fair play and reasonableness, a low propensity to violence, a reluctance to pursue grievance, disciplinary or legal action, a strong forgiving streak and a mature understanding of the need to resolve conflict with dialogue. Weak people disingenuously confuse these hallmarks of character with weakness. Targets of bullying will withstand daily abuse for months, often years, but the first time a bully gets a taste of their own medicine they immediately run whingeing to authority demanding protection. That's weakness.I witnessed that last point happen after we said no to the bullying; the bullies bullying behaviour became worse. It was why they campaigned to have me excommunicated. The targeted Sister ended up being threatened with excommunication by a local leader. I witnessed her go through the pain associated with the unfairness and my heart broke for her. The Stake weren't supportive of it thankfully but the damage had been done to her reputation. We were in the Temple together just before she learnt of his plans. We were with another sister and we both felt impressed to support the bullied sister and stand by her. It was amazing and we knew that no matter how unpopular we might become we had to stand for what was right. We had to do what the Lord wanted us to do. In answer to prayer I felt impressed to ask myself do I want to be popular with man or with God? It was then that we made an affidavit to a leader in a higher position. I was told by local leader I was close to apostasy, I was ignored and accused of "bullying the bullies" in front of two missionaries. The missionaries were told to stay away from me too. That worked out well because by that stage my husband was not keen to have anyone from the Branch come near me. Only my trusted friends were allowed. Over the years after missionaries first arrived in the Branch they were given instructions to keep away from the taget sister and there she remained on their do not visit list for years. Thankfully some were awake to the problem and supported her. When I inherited the visiting teaching list the target sister and some others were marked with "do not visit" as well. I was most upopular when I did the list the way the Lord directed. It led to chaos with refusals to visit so and so or refusals to have so and so as a companion and also refusals to allow so and so to visit them. It was an absolute nightmare. the target sister experienced the same thing from a sister way bigger than her - standover tactics!!! I had to think for a second is this my old Branch you are describing?? LOL maybe they could become sister branches like we have sister cities Hope I haven't raved on too much:lol:

Although I don't know the person or their personal situation and I am in no position to offer any 'proper' advice I will suggest that he or she talk to their Bishop. If the person in question is keen to leave maybe suggest they pray about it first like they might have when they 'joined' the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. I believe it is between them and the Lord - as long as they decide to stay or go for reasons right for them and not anyone else. A testimony is a choice, faith begins within our hearts and because we are given agency to chose it is afterall their choice. Pray for your friend and add their name to the Temple Prayer roll. Hopefully they won't go afterall. :)

There are questions and answers relating to additional meetings here is one relating to the questions raised in this thread Frequently Asked Questions

Your situation reminded me of bullying I experienced not that long ago when I lived in another area. I witnessed sisters bullying other sisters & even singled one sister as their main target. Those sisters that were bullied or those sick of witnessing the bullying either went inactive or moved away just to escape the bullying that simply wasn't addressed. The bullies were a group of sisters who didn't take kindly to anyone refusing to join the persecution of their main target. If you didn't join in then you 'must' be the 'enemy' so you then become alienated and bullied into joining them or leaving or being plain broken. I found it to be very alarming - the bullies unbelievably have so much control over the Branch. They could convince outsiders and/or leaders that there was a problem with certain sisters who were just not getting along. They could convince them that the main target sister was the instigator of the disharmony. People would then avoid her. What was so strange is it was left unchecked for years before I stepped foot in the place. When I first encountered the situation I was confused - everyone acted so 'nice' yet something was making me feel uneasy but I couldn't put my finger on what was happening. After 6 months I was called as Relief Society President my eyes were quickly opened - I quickly learnt in an unpleasant way what was 'really' happening. The flood gates opened I received some horrid letters full of anger and gossip about the target sister in particular but they wrote things about other sisters I didn't even know; ones who had left the area or gone inactive. They wanted me to somehow deal with the target sister it was crazy. I was given 'icing on top' when I asked for help to deal with the problem. So I increased reading the scriptures, and fasting and praying, I continued regular trips to the Temple and cried to the Lord for help to know what to do. I received answers to prayer & was told to stand against gossip and bullying. I received Doctrine and Covenants 50 - my heart broke for all the sisters including the bullies. I sent out a request to all the sisters for the gossip etc to stop but before too long I became the 'new' target - I calmly refused to give into their threats. They became disruptive in classes and deliberately disagreed with me when I was teaching, they'd sit up the front and glare at me so the sisters behind them couldn't see (childish), It led to them eventually boycotting R/S altogether & voiced their decision not to sustain me in my calling. But every so often one of the group would attend out of the blue which made for uneasiness in the meeting. Each bully used different tactics to support of each other. It got worse I was yelled at in the chapel, sent abusive emails, received angry threatening phone calls, my husband and I were gossiped about, I was even verbally (although quietly) abused in the Temple grounds, wrongfully reported to Stake in an effort to get me excommunicated and it went on and on. The bullies managed to disrupt all aspects of Relief Society, they verbally denied revelations I received as part of my calling, visiting teaching was in chaos, R/S activities were also publicly boycotted or disrupted by at least one if in attendence. It was extremely tiresome in the calling trying to 'keep' or get peace in R/S. I was at wits end what to do because what ever was organised was crippled. I dreaded going to church and if I didn't know the church was true I would have been out of there at the first sign of trouble. What I experienced was what the target sister had experienced for a decade - it was very difficult because my only 'sin' was not participating in gossip & bullying and doing my best to be on the 'Lord's side' rather than 'anyone's side'. Although at times I admit I did question myself thinking I was a hopeless R/S President> When I felt that depressive spirit I would then feel the reassuring comfort of the Holy Spirit confirming the opposite was true. Sad to say but it was great when none of them attended the meetings because we felt the Spirit in attendance. Within a year I asked to be released it was too difficult to handle and I hated seeing good people hurt when all they wanted to do was attend meetings in peace. Sadly they were denied that. I'd had enough My husband (non member) was extremely upset - he could see I was trying to be calm & not cry after I got off the phone from an abusive phone call etc. I kept thinking that I didn't want him to think ill of the church because of their behaviour. He'd see me go to church trying to put a 'smile' on my face and return dejected. In the end I opened up to him carefully told him things like the gossip that involved us both. He put his foot down and refused to let me go back. He told me to go to another chapel some distance away which I did. It was a relief to go elsewhere. My heart suddenly felt alive again, it was wonderful to feel the Spirit so strongly there. To me it felt like going home. It was beautiful. Disappointingly the local leaders appeared to avoid dealing with it (denial I think) and seem to put it down to something like a hens fight and act as if they'll get over it, but it is far more destructive than that. I contacted leaders in higher positions and they were dealing with it when we thankfully were prompted to sell & move several hours away. What a blessing. A year on and as predicted by an Area leader there is hardly anyone attending that Branch. I am not surprised and am so glad I am away from the situation but my heart goes out to those left behind who are trying to do the right thing under such trying circumstances. It is a cruel thing being bullied and it is disgusting that there are those who stand by and allow it to continue through either ignorance, through fear, or through complacency - they only encourage the bullying through their inaction. I knew I had to work on forgiveness during that time which wasn't easy but in the long run it has been worth it. At times I felt it was too hard but when I was about to 'give up' I was prompted to remember our Saviour and Joseph Smith and how they dealt with persecution from those close to them. I knew from their example I had to endure to the end and I did. No matter what was happening around me and to me I needed to attend sacrament (somewhere) to renew my covenants as part of putting on the Armour of God. It was to keep the fiery darts of the adversary from penetrating my spirit. It would have been 'easy' to not go to church but it would have also made it too 'easy' for me to lose everything. I thank God for a new start in a 'normal' church setting even if I have to travel an hour and a half to get there. It is worth every kilometre I travel to experience peace and know that when I get there it will be 'normal' and when I teach, sisters participate in 'normal' ways, there are 'normal' problems that are dealt with in 'normal' ways and I receive 'normal' emails and get lots of 'normal' hugs. I go home with a 'normal' and not forced smile on my face. My husband tells me he is so glad I am not there anymore. He loves that I am enjoying the difference. I am so grateful I listened and followed through against the gossip and bullying because even though the bullying hasn't been dealt with their power seems to be less and is a little easier for the target sister. She goes to sacrament and quickly leaves but I hope and pray she and the others will get to experience normality and a lovely spirit in their meetings. Church bullying is very real in all churches unfortunately we aren't immune to it in our Church. The Church is true the gospel is perfect but we aren't. This article by Elder Carlos E. Asay of the Seventy helped me so much because he specified the following things we can do to strengthen ourselves against apostasy: “1. Avoid those who would tear down your faith. Faith-killers are to be shunned. The seeds which they plant in the minds and hearts of men grow like cancer and eat away the Spirit. True messengers of God are builders—not destroyers. “2. Keep the commandments. … If we obey holy laws, we will take upon ourselves “the whole armour of God” and we will be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. “3. Follow the living prophets. … “4. Do not contend or debate over points of doctrine. [see 3 Nephi 11:29.]The Master warned that “the spirit of contention is not of me, but is of the devil.” “5. Search the scriptures. … Few of us would go astray or lose our way if we regarded the scriptures as our personal guide or compass. “6. Do not be swayed or diverted from the mission of the Church. … There are those who would draw you off course and cause you to waste time and energies. Satan used a diversion ploy when he tempted Christ in the wilderness. The Savior’s decisive response, “Get thee hence, Satan” (Matt. 4:10), is a proper example for all of us. “7. Pray for your enemies. … “Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them who despitefully use you and persecute you.” “8. Practice ‘pure religion.’ [see James 1:27 and Alma 1:30.] … be charitable to all whether in the Church or out of the Church “9. Remember that there may be many questions for which we have no answers and that some things have to be accepted simply on faith” Carlos E. Asay, “Opposition to the Work of God,” Ensign, Nov 1981, 67 LDS.org - Ensign Article - Opposition to the Work of God PS there are some great websites on bullying that are there to help understand who and what bullies are and why they are the way they are. Worth checking them out. This was my favourite Bully OnLine: bullying in the workplace, school, family and community, action you can take, stress, psychiatric injury, PTSD, resources, case histories, news and contact the media Who are the most responsible? Those who bully? Or those who stand by and allow it to happen? Those who can, do Those who can't, bully!!! All the best and keep close to the Lord He is the one who really knows what you are experiencing and what is in everyone's heart.

Your comment reminded me of the "Old Testament" Visual Resource DVD's that are out now. In it there is a video representation of Abraham being commanded to sacrifice his own son. It was so well done that I could almost feel the pain he would have experienced all the while thinking about my sons and how I would cope - I cried and was overwhelmed to think he had so much faith. Would I? Could I? I pray I can do what the Lord would ask

Rocky Road mmmmmmmmm mango or watermelon?

Have you ever had anyone tell you that you need to have more faith when it isn't appropriate that they do so? Well here's what to do LOL I was listening to a lady who called a radio pastor. The pastor was a wise, grandfatherly gentleman who had that calm reassuring voice that can melt all fear. The lady, who was obviously crying, said, "Pastor, I was born blind, and I've been blind all my life. I don't mind so much being blind but I have some well meaning friends who tell me that if I had more faith I could be healed." The pastor asked her, "Tell me, do you carry one of those white canes?" "Yes I do," she replied. "Then the next time someone says that hit them over the head with the cane," he said. "Then tell them 'If you had more faith that wouldn't hurt' "!

Just for Fun If we were as a Church instructed to move to Zion and was then told Zion was Australia would you come on downunder?????

A little boy was attending his first wedding. After the service, his cousin asked him, "How many women can a man marry?" "Sixteen," the boy responded. His cousin was amazed that he had an answer so quickly. "How do you know that?" "Easy," the little boy said. "All you have to do is add it up, like the Bishop said: 4 better, 4 worse, 4 richer, 4 poorer" :lol:

Let's just say I hope I don't have to do it - I am a real chicken when it comes to killing anything - if it were to come in I could always excuse myself as I am not a Priesthood holder LOL- When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odour for the Lord – Lev.1:9. The problem is my neighbours. They claim the odour is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them? LOL

You Must Believe! An atheist was taking a walk through the woods. What majestic trees! What powerful rivers! What beautiful animals!" he said to himself. As he was walking alongside the river he heard a rustling in the bushes behind him. He turned to look. He saw a 7 foot grizzly charge towards him. He ran as fast as he could up the path. He looked over his shoulder and saw that the bear was closing in on him. He looked over his shoulder again, and the bear was even closer. He tripped and fell on the ground. He rolled over to pick himself up but saw the bear right on top of him, reaching for him with his left paw and raising his right paw to strike him. At that instant the Atheist cried out: "Oh my God!..." Time stopped. The bear froze. The forest was silent. As a bright light shone upon the man, a voice came out of the sky: "You deny my existence for all of these years, teach others I don't exist, and even credit creation to a cosmic accident. Do you expect me to help you out of this predicament? Am I to count you as a believer?" The atheist looked directly into the light, "It would be hypocritical of me to suddenly ask You to treat me as a Christian now, but perhaps could you make the BEAR a Christian?" "Very well," said the voice. The light went out. The sounds of the forest resumed. And then the bear dropped his right paw, brought both paws together and bowed his head and spoke: "Lord, bless this food, which I am about to receive from thy bounty, through Christ our Lord, Amen."

I don't think I am strong enough spiritually but I guess if it was a commandment from God then I would have to seriously consider obeying it. It would be a real test of my faith that is for sure. :lol:I hope I don't have 2 husbands though - one is enough and I say that with both love and humour. click cartoon below As for hubby having 2 wives well he couldn't cope - one's enough LOL However I guess on the days I am not feeling up to cooking the other wife could do it - hopefully she's a chef and a compulsive cleaner LOL

LOL Yes true here's an example of a man who had a son in later life. Abraham laughed heartily when the Lord promised he and Sarah would have a son in their old age. The word "Isaac" means "laughter." Another thought on father son relationships is to enjoy a good sense of humour together. A father was preparing pancakes for his sons, Kevin, 5, and Ryan, 3. The boys began to argue over who would get the first pancake. Their father saw the opportunity for a moral lesson. If Jesus were sitting here, He would say something like, "Let my brother have the first pancake. I can wait." Kevin turned to his younger brother and said, "Ryan, you be Jesus."

Mate! This saying really gets me frustrated when used as a cop out - it is a form of denial or an excuse to bury ones head in the sand - however I don't mind the saying "She'll be right mate" when it is used to reassure another in a light hearted way

Funny notes left for the milkman No milk. Please do not leave milk at No. 14 either as he is dead until further notice. Please send me a form for cheap milk, for I have a baby two months old and did not know about it until a neighbour told me. Milk is needed for the baby. Father is unable to supply it. From now on please leave two pints every other day and one pint on the days in between, except Wednesdays and Saturdays when I don't want any milk. Please don't leave any more milk. All they do is drink it. My back door is open. Please put milk in ' fridge, get money out of cup in drawer and leave change on kitchen table in pence, because we want to play bingo tonight. Please leave no milk today. When I say today, I mean tomorrow, for I wrote this note yesterday. Milkman, please close the gate behind you because the birds keep pecking the tops off the milk. Milkman, please could I have a loaf but not bread today. Sorry about yesterday's note. I didn't mean one egg and a dozen pints, but the other way round.

Cool hey?

I have been a little confused about the changes and what is required of leaders in the planning of the Additional Relief Society Meetings. I have found some interesting info (below) that may help you - I am not quite clear on what I have to do yet but this is a start - I live an hour and a half from the chapel so that adds another challenge in the planning of the meetings. All the best:) Objectives outlined for Relief Society meetings By Sarah Jane Weaver Church News staff writer Published: Thursday, Oct. 1, 2009 Using Relief Society meetings appropriately will increase the ability of the Relief Society to work in powerful ways with priesthood leaders in every ward, said Sister Julie B. Beck during the General Relief Society Meeting Sept. 26. Sister Beck noted that for the past number of years, Church members have called weekday Relief Society meetings "home, family and personal enrichment." That name will now be discontinued, she said. All future weekday Relief Society meetings are to be called what they are: Relief Society meetings, she said. These meetings, Sister Beck explained, can be valuable supplements to Sunday instruction, especially for sisters who serve in Primary or Young Women or who are unable to attend Sunday meetings. They are also a good place to bring friends of other faiths or to include those sisters who do not actively participate in the Church. During her address, Sister Beck outlined numerous objectives and procedures for weekday Relief Society meetings. Following is a list of guidelines for additional meetings as outlined in Sister Beck's talk: • The ward Relief Society president should oversee all Relief Society meetings. • The Relief Society president should counsel regularly with her bishop regarding how these meetings can meet the needs of individuals and families in the ward. • Plans should be consistent with current policies about activities, including policies about finances. • Meeting plans should be approved by the bishop. • At least one member of the Relief Society presidency should attend all meetings. • The Relief Society president should oversee the meetings, but may ask the first or second counselor or recommend a sister in the ward be called to be coordinator of the meetings. • The Relief Society presidency prayerfully determines how often to hold these meetings and where they should be held. • Meetings generally should be held monthly. The bishop and the Relief Society president determine the frequency of the meetings. Efforts should be made to hold the meetings at least quarterly. • Meetings should be held at a time other than Sunday or Monday evening. • Sisters should not be made to feel that it is mandatory to attend all these meetings. • When planning meetings, the Relief Society presidency should take into consideration time commitments of sisters, family circumstances, travel distance and cost, financial cost to the ward, safety and other local circumstances. • Meetings, under the direction of the bishop, can be used to address spiritual and temporal needs of individuals and families and to strengthen unity. • Meetings should accomplish the "charitable and practical responsibilities" of Relief Society. They should increase faith and personal righteousness, strengthen families and homes and provide service. • In planning meetings, the Relief Society presidency should give priority to topics that fulfill Relief Society purposes, such as marriage and family, homemaking, provident living and self-reliance, compassionate service, temple and family history, sharing the gospel, and other subjects requested by the bishop. • Meetings can focus on one topic or be divided into more than one class or activity. • Generally, teachers should be members of the ward or stake. • One meeting a year may commemorate the founding of the Relief Society and focus on its history and purpose. "When we plan, we ask what the Lord needs us to learn and become in order to be prepared for eternal life," Sister Beck said. "In the wisdom of the Lord, every ward has its own unique characteristics, which no other ward shares. This can be compared to the DNA that identifies every human being as unique. "Every bishop has the responsibility for his specific ward," Sister Beck continued. "Each ward Relief Society president has a calling to assist one bishop. Each bishop and Relief Society presidency have had hands laid on their heads to receive inspiration for their particular responsibilities, and not for any other ward or group of Relief Society sisters." As a result of operating this way, the Relief Society can help prepare families for emergencies and help sisters and families to prepare for the temple. They can share the gospel and teach and improve homemaking skills, she said. Sister Beck's talk will serve as the "current official policy" regarding additional Relief Society meetings. "Should you have questions regarding anything we have taught here after studying this message, please counsel together in your own wards and stakes to discover the solutions you need," she said. LDS Church News - Objectives outlined for Relief Society meetings Additional Relief Society Meetings (Formerly HFPE) | The Idea Door

Hey Dr T I just had a quick look at your profile so you are 108 years old? mmmm

G'day and happy birthday from a new member downunder

When I read the description of your new calling I felt quite confused at what it actually was. It sounded to me like a cross between R/S, EQ/HP leaders, Ward Clerk and the Welcoming committee. I agree with WmLee that it would be best to check with your Bishop to remove the burden you feel. Request a description of the duties for your new calling. Your Bishop is the one who called you so he would know what is required of you. Pay special attention to what is/was said when you are/were set apart, particularly to any counsel or special blessings that are bestowed. Rely on prayer and scripture study to help you solve problems. Blessings come when you do your best in whatever capacity you are called to serve and all callings are important in the church. If you do all you can, Heavenly Father will make up the rest. There is no point remaining confused about your calling requirements because Satan will further stick his nose in and cause unnecessary misery and deny you the joy of serving the Lord. All the best.

Ex wives please encourage your children to spend time with their Dad even if you think he's a jerk, children need their Dad. Leaving Dad's out in the cold denies children of a positive male role model, leading to problems in later life. Sadly I've exerienced this with my darling husband who is denied visits from his children because he re-married. How sad. It's not fair on the children too. I am so grateful that I didn't deny my darling sons of visiting and later living with their Dad when they were young even though I missed them like you wouldn't believe. But the result was that we all get on so well. :) I pray that my husband can experience a peaceful relationship with his children someday. But after 7 years nothing has changed & bitterness still prevails and the now older children are very angry with us as a result. It is not only the father that is affected by PAS, but the whole of his family.