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There are very few jobs that when the SHTF will still be a good thing. Who says that even these jobs will be paid positions. Money in any form maybe of no value because of the large amount of it needed to purchase anything if it is even available. Look at this if there is no electricity most likely there will be no gas, diesel, kerosene you name for fuel, which means no vehicles will be running which means no electricity, no water, no sewers working, no medical services, no garbage pickups, nothing. Heat, air conditioning, stoves to cook on all gone so how do open a can of food, cook it, stay warm, wash your clothes, go from one place to another, protect your stuff as best you can if everything is down. Think this can not happen? Have you seen the tornadoes that are hitting the eastern part of our nation? That is just what they are living with and they are sort of lucky as there are parts of the nation that still can function but in a SHTF situation it will be nation wide maybe even world wide and what happens then? Do you know how to grow some food, read the signs of what is going on in your area, do you know where to go if where your at is no longer safe, how much of what you have today can your carry for days, weeks maybe months with you, and lastly if your on medications what happens when what you have runs out?

wyoming Having a firearm that you don't know how to use or are afraid to use is a firearm that most likely will end your own life. I understand not wanting to know anything about firearms but the time is soon going to be at hand were it is part of getting dressed just like in the 1800's it is a tool to be used for good or evil or maybe both and if you don't have one or are afraid of using one then you had better have someone or more around that do and come to your aide.

Having lost my food storage due to divorce I wonder if I will ever have even enough to go just a few months and yet I know if I am supposed to finish this goal I will be able to and that is as far as I want to look into this issue. I look for my storage to be needed for natural disasters knowing full well it could be for a far worse issue. the best we can do is all we can do to acquire an adequate storage for our needs and let the rest be in the Lords hands as he knows us best, our needs best and most of all our purpose here best. Whether we like it or not some of us will not need much food storage because we are not going to be here that long anyways and others of us are here for the long haul and will need more. If you have health issues that if modern medical items become unavailable and thus your life greatly shortened then a large food storage might not be something you need to worry about unless there are others that you should be thinking of for one reason or another who just might need that food you have.

Shine7 My question is where do you get the herbs when all has failed and things are getting hard to just get by on a daily basis?

shine7 No one should ever put you in the position of feeling you have to have a firearm because so many others have them. Having said that the next best thing is to have others who have accepted the responsibility that goes with having a firearm close to where you live. If you live in a rural area then it might be in your best interest to learn about firearms and shoot some to see it you change your mind about them. I think having a firearm that you just can't see yourself using to defend yourself is asking for it to be used against you when you need it most. But if you have no means of defensive how are you going to protect yourself if the situation comes up and you need to defend your right to live? There is no easy answer to this question and I have made my choice and will most likely live by it as long as the good Lord allows me to.

Ok it sort of has been mentioned so I will add a little bit more. female products also make some really good emergency band aids if there is a big enough wound. So it would be a good idea to have say 2 1/2 times what might be needed for the family needs and who knows who else might just end up there also. Firearms are only useful if you understand how to use them and are willing to if necessary to take another life to protect you and yours. If you are in a city make sure you know who has like ideas as yours as you may just end up in that part of the city as a safe place to be and don't forget what is yours might end up being what is the collective group supply. The real issues I see are mostly natural issues but there is also the one most of us would rather never deal with which is civil unrest. This can be possible if enough natural disasters destroy the ability to produce and transport enough food and products from one area to another. It is possible well yes as we have no control over nature and we also have seen the issues of big government to even grasp at issues facing normal individuals. We need to also have trade goods in our stock pile of goods some things we would not normally store like matches, bullets maybe would have to know the person(s) really well as what is to stop them from coming back and killing you with your own bullets to get everything you have, alcoholic beverages for trade and some for medical needs of your own ( You must think 1890's here), maybe some extra tools, fuel depending on what you use and how you use it, kerosene for lighting and most of all is where you are where you are going to stay, what sort of space do you have to put stuff in, do you have a pair or two of work shoes, boots, warm clothes, seeds that are open pollinated, do you know how to hunt, do you know in your area what is edible in the wild, do you know how to take care of animal that you just killed for food, can you do it with nothing more than a knife, canning jars and lids and a pot to boil water in, do you have a place to put it that won't freeze, do you have a wood stove for heating and cooking with, do you have two years wood for them, is it stored well, if you have to leave how do you plan on moving it, shelter what do you have if you have to leave your primary place, do you have health issues that require medicine that has to be kept cold, kept from freezing, can you acquire a large enough supply for 2 years, what if you can't get your medicine then what, have you accepted this fact and are ok with what might happen, and lastly do you have a set of scriptures in your bug out bag? This might be the only reading material that you and yours might have for a long time. When we look at issues dealing with food storage it is not only the body but the mind we must think about.

Mirkwood Why don't you ask a criminal lawyer about that statement you might just get a big surprise when you here the answer. I have and even talked to some who deal with that kind of issue on regular basis and I trust them more than what anyone else might say. Anonymity you are so correct and I wonder just how long before the society fails and the rats come out of the sewers.

Nope they have classes for pistol and if you can find one for shotgun find an instructor who teaches the police and military how to use them. Utah concealed carry requires you to have a concealed carry in your own state now because they got so much flak about people having permits from Utah and not their own state one. Most of the classes I have attended in several states now because of moving around are an all day affair and they need to include live fire if not then I don't have much belief they teach you anything really. One I attended even had a demonstration of when to use and when not to use a firearm and they where using blanks so there was real sounding shooting going on. Never ever thing you know it all about firearms I have had them for 50 years and still learn something new all the time and that is how it should be. Best of luck and do so safely and they can be a lot of fun to shoot and if needed keep you and yours alive to see another day. I will not get into the reaction of what you will do if you do have to kill someone but this I will tell you if the police start questioning you don't say anything until you talk to your lawyer. They will do their best to get you to say something and just don't. It can and will be used against you in court. If you just can't not say something then tell them you feared for you life and then shut up.

Temples didn't mean much to me when I was married; didn't mean much to her either but since she did what she did and now has a temple recommend and goes I guess often. No she is no longer in the area. Many things that went on that lead to divorce are just plain strange and not what we are taught in the Gospel. What has happened to me with the help of my bishop and brother is the temple is someplace I want to go and spend some time. What many forget is that it is a good place for us to go and be close to our father in heaven as he feels they are his house and can reveal things to us no other place on this earth. I know some may question this logic but I have found this to be true in my past and know it will happen again. Temple attendance is what we make of it and that is a personal thing.

I have been thinking on this more lately and I think I am going to buy the 25 pound bags and double bag them in plastic and put them in a plastic bucket along with a hammer again in plastic and put a good lid on it and forget about it. Salt when hardened softens up well with a hammer.

First thing is for you and your spouse to go to a firearms for defense class. Now if you can accept the fact that someday you might have to kill someone to keep you spouse safe, kids maybe, friends or other family then it is time to get a firearm. So now you have that firearm how many times do you fire it a week, how many different situations do you practice for, when shooting at targets do you get those with no human type faces or do you get them with a human face, can you pick your firearm of choice up and fire and not stop and think it is another person you are shooting at ? If you can not see yourself or your spouse shooting another person and I mean to kill then none of this wounding stuff because you don't know if they are on drugs, are a harden killer, rapist or what and if they broke into your home knowing you are there they had no intention of stopping by for milk and cookies. Now as to which firearm that is a very personal question, I have both you mention and for different reasons. I have a shotgun yes with a sort of short barrel 20 inches as it fits me best, gauge that is dependent on who will be using it again sort of if you and your spouse are not used to recoil then maybe a 20 gauge would work, but I know most use a 12 gauge as to rounds to have double OO buck works well it is a load the FBI and many other police and military like. A pistol again caliber is related to recoil and you need to go where they have a lot of different calibers you can fire and see if you can handle the recoil and yes barrel length can affect recoil as to how well you can handle it. Most common calibers are 38 special, 357 mag, 9mm but some think this is to small even though our military have it and there is an issue in and of itself as they are going back to old 45 auto in many cases, why because a 230 grain full metal jacketed bullet does say something when it hits it target. This caliber takes lots of firing to get used to in the 1911 frame that is most often found but it an be done if you want to work at it. Getting really used to any firearm you chose is all about shooting it; in the case of shotgun think around 500-1000 rounds for each of you. For a pistol think around 1000-5000 to get the basics and even more to keep current with either firearm. Now you have your firearm(s) yes more is better to a point; where is it going to be kept, do you have kids in the house or come over, do you have relatives that are just plain noisy, and lastly if things go bad how fast can you get to where you have your firearm(s). How much ammunition to keep on hand and where to keep it. What kind of holster for a pistol? For a shotgun do you get a pump or side by side or a semi auto, are you a hunter if so what other barrels are you going to want for your shotgun. Do you know how to clean them, do you feel safe holding a firearm or does it make you feel nervous, does it make you feel powerful, what is your mind set when you have a firearm in your hand? The bottom line is if you have a firearm for self defense can you kill another person to protect your life or others you care about? I know many will not be so blunt but I have found if you can not see yourself killing another person to stay alive then you had better not have a firearm in the house as it will be used to kill you more than likely if it is found.

First if we have a large EMP event then anything that has a computer chip may or may not work again. So you could find nothing working or you could have and ice storm and no power, tornado and no power, a flood and no power there are many reasons why things stop as we know them now. You can store open pollinated seeds in your freezer for longer shelf life, but you need a place to plant them, water them, and put up the food as it comes on, think canning here. what would I want and I am limited to only 5 things 1. someone to be with me so I am not alone 2. a good warm home that is out in the back country 3. good soil to grow food on 4. a few head of livestock or good hunting area for meat 5. water and wood to enjoy Storing gasoline is a not a good thing, first it is very combustible, second you have to deal with shrinkage, think evaporation here, second how to get it out of the containers if they are large. If you are where you have a lot of ground that is good for growing, just how are you going to work this land, by hand, by tractor: where is the fuel and oil and filters and grease coming from, horses; do you have all the equipment and harness to do this and do you know how to do this? Now lets gets really scary there are no wild animals as they are all dead, the sun is very hot and ultraviolet's very high so you can not go outside during the day. At night temperature is very cool and you have to do all you work outside during this time. There are no electric companies, no gasoline, no diesel, equipment just sits and rusts, no horses to help with the work. How do you survive? Oh and just to be interesting no close neighbors either. The climate as we know it has totally changed due whatever event you like war, solar flares or just plain a series of natural disasters. So you are at your retreat and have whoever is with you and that is all there is in the world for you. Oh did you stock up on medical supplies before it got to late? How about a firearm or two as there will be folks looking for food and water and shelter and they don't really care how hard you worked to get what you have, they just know they want it and are willing to do whatever they need to get you stuff. have fun with this and yes it might happen to various degrees but it does make one stop and ponder just what is the right thing to do where you are and where you hope to be when things fall apart.

First off nice ideas but when Society Has Totally Failed my term for SHTF others have different definitions. But what makes you think you are going to have electricity? I look for it to be no water, no sewer, no electricity, no heat and this is if you are in a community that has all of these luxuries right now. So milk will be whatever the temperature is where you are. Second yes instant powdered milk is for drinking the other is for cooking. I am in a rental place right now and since a fairly recent divorce has put me back in building my home storage I am feeling like I will not have it all again before I need it and yes it is stressful but you know something if I am to have a good home storage and I do all I can the way will be prepared for me to have my home storage. I am hoping to find a place in the country that I can live at until it is time for me to go home and then I really don't care about the stress of this life. I know I am on the right path and that I will be rewarded for my faith and diligence in this life. Just so you know for me a place in the country will have wood heat, kerosene or gas lighting until the gas runs out and will be where the neighbors are not close. did you notice that electricity is not mentioned, well that depends on whether I can find a way to produce electricity and whether we have an EMP event or more and just how to deal with this issue. Yes it will be learning to do for myself again and that means even cooking, canning, preparing food to be canned, hunting, gardening and learning to again store seeds and also being in tune with nature and the weather. Health issues will be just that issues either I can live with them or they will take me home. We are here to learn, gain a mortal body and then return home. The last I checked very few if any of us gets out of here without death of this body.

If you must store salt in #10 cans double bag it and seal the bags. That keeps the salt from the inside of the can, keeps some of the moisture out and in most cases will stop the rust. Also as has been said a hammer does wonders on hard salt or sugar just make sure it is in a bag that doesn't break from being hit by the hammer.

I don't see payments because of a divorce as marriage responsibilities more of court order payments. Right now in this country if you are male you are a dirt bag when it comes to court and you are going to pay dearly to the ex no matter what in most cases and men whether we like it or not we created this attitude in the courts because of all those dead beat dads who didn't pay a dime for their kids. Will it change maybe but it has been this way for over 20 years that I know of. I only know of one judge who changed his mind and that was because he got to enjoy divorce and court himself and was on the receiving end of a judgement against him much as he had handed out hundreds of time to others. Marriage responsibilities to me stop when the marriage stops unless there are kids and then you have a responsibility to the kids for the rest of your life. Yes it will mean paying child support and if the spouse remarries hearing about all the things they are doing when with mom and the new guy. GarryW if all you have to pay is $2000 a month you got out of it cheap, I know of a time when it cost me more than that, a house and most of my personal possessions because she was a gold digger. When we talk about "marriage responsibilities" to me it means while we are a couple and together and when that ends so do many if not all marriage responsibilities because we are not married anymore. I have no marriage responsibilities to my ex because we are no longer married but I have responsibilities to my children that will be there for life, mine as it is most likely I will die first in most cases. Do I have court ordered responsibilities yes and they are court ordered not a part of the marriage but apart of the disillusionment of that marriage.

If he cries and begs you to let him stay remember he was the one who wanted you to feel this way when he said he wanted out. If he calls you the B word you know he doesn't love you Look at it this way now you know what to look for in a mate that isn't good for you. The pain will go away in time and you will find someone who will be the one for you. I was in a divorce because I went and had and issue in me addressed it was when I was getting things corrected that my ex decided to wash her hands of me and find another man while still married to me and start a relationship in the full meaning of the word. Well she has left the kids thinking marriage is on and off just like you turn a faucet on and off. My ex was married 24 hours after the final divorce decree and my son who is 5 asks when am I getting married again as it didn't take mom this long. I have maybe found someone and I am so scared to even think about marriage again as I don't want to go through another divorce ever I would rather be alone forever than do that. But you know we are not meant to be alone in this life so I will most likely one day marry this lady that I am talking with. We will have known each other for a year now and sort of understand each other. We also fit together quite well in the way we see life and marriage. No she is not a member but that doesn't mean a thing as to the quality of marriage we can have. Look for someone who makes you feel happy, content, safe and really cares about what you think, feel, desire and want out of this life. Never just accept that no one else in the whole world would want you I have been there and done that and it ended in divorce as she was using me for a stepping stone in life and the kids are just a source of income for her. I don't think she really understands what love or marriage are or in this life may ever understand. Oh well in my case the crying, feeling no one would ever want me, that I am a loser, good for nothing and just a jerk are past now I am on to how did this very pretty lady ever find me and I am so very lucky to have her in my life and hope to marry her maybe next year. Who knows fate and life have stepped in between many times already and we are still working towards being together and still feel strongly about each other. Walk away, seek mental health counseling for yourself, get a lawyer and move on. Yes you have a failed relationship but the world hasn't ended, your are still a daughter of your loving father here on earth and in heaven and there is someone for you out there just waiting for you to find him and make his world and your complete. Crying is the cleansing of the soul when there are no more tears you are ready to move forward with the knowledge you did nothing wrong and can be loved by someone who truly loves you.

First you say you two have slipped on occasion and that you want a temple marriage you can't have both ways here. Second the rocky start is a sign things have been directed in one direction more than another. Seems physical attraction is important for both of you. There is a reason sex is reserved for marriage. third there is a crude but true statement," why buy the cow if you can get the milk free" I am not calling you a cow by any means only that why would he work to correct his issues if you give him sex for nothing more than maybe mutual satisfaction. What are you going to do when the next girl comes in his life and he moves on leaving you behind. Yes I do think he will do it as he has already done it once that you know of and his past seems to be his present as well. If you really want a temple marriage, you have to accept that means no sex out side of marriage, second this guy is doing you no spiritual good, and last he is pulling you down to his level and is that where you want to be?

First marriages don't always have creation of children as a important part of the marriage. There are so many reasons for this I will not waste time here explaining unless someone really wants to know. Second marriage is the bond of physical and mental bodies together for hopefully eternity Third the savior taught us that to love another as we love ourselves is important, in doing this we fail to see the short comings of another and also ignore some of those in our selves. I say some because some short comings we have need to be addressed like maybe tithing, helping others, callings in the church which we feel inadequate in Fourth marriage is a commitment to something greater than ourselves, when we marry we say we will honor our spouse in sickness and health and in wealth or poverty and to be one with them Fifth marriage today is becoming a joke in the fact we see so many marriages end in divorce because it is so easy to get one. Does this mean all divorces have no merit no it just means there is a lot of them for stupid reasons and they could have been saved if the partners had wanted to work to save them Sixth it is a known fact we live longer if we are in a loving relationship with another and not living alone. think of it as your personal fountain of youth because you have to get up each day and see what you spouse has figured out you need to do today. Seventh wasn't it a commandment to marry and replenish the earth, but does it say anywhere if you can't have children to have sex and not marry? Sorry but marriage is a bonding of bodies literally as well as mentally and there is no reason to believe because children are not part of it that it is any the less a scared commandment we should follow. last and most important it teaches of tolerance, love , compassion and humility

Rm No I don't know if they are still publishing the pamphlet but can check tomorrow when I will be able to ask. Since it is on the web my bet is that it is not being published as it is available to us on the web. The church is finally getting much of what we need on the web for us to use. I am just glad I was able to find it as it really upsets me when we know we heard, read or saw something and now can't find it.

Wow what we have to remember is that sex is a gift given us by our father in heaven. With that said there are times when "self gratification" when done with your partner I believe is acceptable because first you are both there and participating to the event. I am referring to health issues that might prevent a couple from having normal sex. I also believe that sending sexual messages to our spouses that might be accepted as them as a form of foreplay would be acceptable. If you are married and having sexual thoughts about your spouse and you are say in a combat zone, which is the greater sin to talk about sex together and solve your sexual desires or to find someone where you are and solve them? We must be careful when we begin talking about sexual acts as yes sometimes they can be totally wrong and then again circumstances can make it a maybe acceptable solution to a very dangerous problem. Don't think I am trying to make this an easy answer as it is not, many of us human beings have different sexual drives, sexual preferences and most of all this has to be worked out between the couple and if need be a counselor who hopefully is a member of the church so they do understand the significance of the challenge. Notice I said challenge not problem because when you call it a problem there has to be a right and wrong direction. In dealing with human sexually the waters get very muddy very quickly when we talk about sexual release, satisfaction, gratification or whatever you wan to call it. I hope I answered some of your questions and didn't add to the confusion as this is a very hard issue to nail down what is right, what is wrong and when is it right and when is it wrong. I am talking here in a loving marriage relationship only. The couple have a lot to say in what is right for them, what is wrong and what will and will not be allowed under the term sexual release, satisfaction in the marriage.

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Mistie I married a lady with several challenged kids and ending up adopting them when their dad just couldn't handle the child support thing. We are divorced now because of a life issue that came up and when I started to get things corrected, she decided it was time to find a new man and she did so. Yes he is a member of the church and they were married the day after our divorce was final. What I am saying here we all have baggage in this life and whether you find someone who will marry you also depends on how much you love him and realize life is not all fun and games. Real life will sneak in and test you to see if you really do love each other. That is when the real test of love will begin for me it was when she decided to just not love me anymore and she still has a lot of anger towards me. Sees that everything she did is ok and that I am the one who has all the problems. As to there not being any single men in your ward the church is world wide so why shouldn't you be looking world wide? In this day and age we have no idea where our eternal companion might be. The lord has laid my road out for me and now all I have to do is find someone that is on the same road going the same direction as me. Will I find someone maybe not in this life but there is always the next. Having said that I don't believe my father in heaven will leave me alone in this life with small children in my life as it sets up a bad example for them and their mother already has them wondering what marriage really is and is not.

Utah is the only state that I know of that carrying of firearms has been stated that the church is against this and yet many do carry with their local Bishop's blessing. My bishop has told me it is fine if I chose to carry in church as long as he is my bishop. As to the embarrassing issue with a firearm in the bathroom is far more embarrassing to drop it in Sunday school with a bunch of little kids or Gospel doctrine class when it is being discussed whether we are sheep or shepherds and yes I heard the story from a friend of that happening and the whole class roared in laughter and the individual's embarrassment. It is not the carrying that is the issue it is the stigma that goes with carrying in a place of worship. I know from reading some news stories more ministers than you might think now carry just in case they need to get a point across. As to the scripture of living by the sword and dying by the sword, we are also told not to be sheep and to protect our own and those we are stewards for. How do you protect if you don't have the tools to do so? What the scripture is getting at is we should always be in the defensive mode when protecting and not the aggressor. Check this out: a. Alma 43–44. Led by Zerahemnah, the Lamanites come to battle against the Nephites, seeking to bring them into bondage. The Nephites, led by Moroni, fight to defend their families and their liberty. The Nephites prevail because they are “inspired by a better cause” and because they exercise faith in Jesus Christ. b. Alma 45:20–24; 46. Amalickiah desires to be king and causes dissension among the Nephites. Captain Moroni raises the “title of liberty” to inspire the people, and they covenant to follow God. Amalickiah and a few of his followers join the Lamanites. c. Alma 47–48. Through treachery, Amalickiah becomes king of the Lamanites. He incites the Lamanites to fight against the Nephites. Captain Moroni prepares the Nephites to defend themselves righteously. d. Alma 49–52. War continues between the Nephites and the Lamanites. The king-men desire to set up a king over the Nephites, but they are defeated. Teancum kills Amalickiah, who is succeeded as king of the Lamanites by his brother Ammoron. Doesn't sound like to me they were just going to stand by and be destroyed? Even the Jews learned in WWII that to not defend themselves was a very high price to be paid to be the meek among the wolves. If we are truly a free people then we should also realize freedom has a price that must be paid to remain free. You can choose to bury your head in the sand or be part of the solution and maybe die fighting for freedom. I will take the last choice as I have no desire to be anyone's subject we made that decision in the 1770's that this land was a not a servant land to anyone! Do I think it is sad that even in a house of worship someone might come in and try and kill anyone yes! but to be sheep and go to the slaughter without trying to end the violence is just plain not how I was raised to live. I went into the military when my country called in a war no one saw why we were there and we lost it too because politicians thought they knew how to fight a war not generals. Many died in the war something like 56,000 and one I know for sure was part of my family in fact I wear a bracelet to never forget what he paid so we can sit here and debate the right or wrong of carrying in church. My family has fought in every conflict America has been in since 1775 and yes this land has a lot of my family's blood in it and to allow it to be destroyed without trying to stop the insanity is just plain stupid to me. If my bishop asks me to not carry in church of course I will honor his request because he asked and because he is my bishop and a man of honor. If I am killed because of his decision and my following his counsel then I am sure I will be rewarded for following my bishop's counsel. One of the reason's we are here on this earth is to learn to follow directions, to learn, to grow and to magnify our priesthood. Does that mean we should just do what we want well you can but how do you answer the question from Jesus when he asks why did you disobey the prophet? I for one like to have others in the fire with me as it makes it easier to accept the pain knowing I am not the only one who is being roasted. What do you do if Jesus asks you why you didn't do all you could to stop others from being killed in his house? You don't live in Utah, you didn't ask your bishop if he was ok with your carrying in his ward meetings and most of all you didn't pray to your father and older brother in heaven as to what you should do?

Do you think those who protect our Prophet go unarmed when they enter any place as the body guards of the Prophet? There are others that are allowed to carry because of work they do in daily life. think Judges as one example. One of the judges I knew years ago when I got my first CCW permit was asking me why I wanted one and I explained and he agreed my reason was valid and he went on to explain that judges were supposed to carry at all times because of the work they did and many did not at that time but he had been threatened and so he carried and had only once had to bring it out and it the court room no less. Having a firearm CCW puts much more on you as a person to know when to bring it out and when to just walk on and not show that you could bring the issue to closure. As I said once before and NoGreaterLove brought out when you bring that firearm out it is to end a threat and you had better have made up your mind long before reaching for your firearm that you will stop someone's clock if you have to to protect yourself or another from harm. This is not always easy to do, the decision can be easy whether to bring out your firearm, but to think it all the way through and accept that you may have to kill someone to protect yourself or others is a very hard decision and sometimes you have just a very few seconds to make that decision so it much better to accept that you are willing to do this long before the real test comes. If you pull out a firearm and are unwilling to stop the threat then it may very well be the firearm that kills you!

The fundamental truth in America is God, Guns and Guts Look how many nations in the world we have waded in and saved from being wiped off the face of the earth! Many of those same nations see fit to complain about the fact here in America we know what freedom is and what cost it takes to keep it and also what it costs to lose it. May America always see fit to honor God and Country even with the blood of our people if needed!