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I have no intention of doing it even though it may leave me with a degree that I can't complete as I can find no place to do my actual live work. I am just so upset with her even asking me to do this. Yes it costs me a lot of money to go get my kids and take them back when I have them. Think right now around $400 a month in diesel fuel. I drive a big pickup that likes to drink diesel fuel. I need it for the small farm I hope to get started later this year. I know why she wants me to do this as the kids are not happy with her and she thinks if she can get them so they don't see me things will get better for her. How sad to know she feels I think the kids are not worth anything to me. You need to know she also sees the kids as possessions not people and I just can't think of any good reason to walk away from my kids.

Just got an email from a lawyer asking me to give up my rights to my kids because the ex wants me too. I get to see two of my kids every other weekend and yes it is a long trip but I just can't see giving up my kids for money costs. I am so mad my blood just boils to think the ex thinks I would give up my rights to my kids for money that I would save if they were not in my life. They have been working hard to drive a wedge between me and my kids I see and the one kid I haven't seen in almost two years. Yes there is a court action on that one going on. My question to those of you who might be in my situation would you give up your rights to your kids? why? and have you done this? I just can't me looking at myself in the mirror if I did this and know that I let money take more importance in my life than my kids. thanks for you comments

Interesting question,"if God commanded us to live eternal marriage lives here, if I pass that opportunity (if it is available) for something less, why would God give me a greater stewardship?" So let me pose an even more interesting one," What if it was your challenge in this life to be alone for the whole time to be worthy for a celestial marriage when you return home to Jesus?" I don't like to think of that idea but with so many not finding someone here and also the large number of divorced individuals who may never marry again in this life. It is an interesting concept to ponder; we don't have all the answers to our lives here and sometimes that might be a good thing. I find that as I walk each day now I find that being in a city is depressing to me; to many people in such a small area I find that the smell of exhaust fumes instead of spring depress me. I find that the wanton waste that goes on in a large city is depressing; go look at any large city land fill if you think I am wrong. I find that I want to plant a garden but in the city there is little place to do such. I find that I look for the budding of the roses that are at my rental residence as a sign that spring has returned. I find that each Sunday and going to church is interesting because of the people who look for me to be there. I find that my patriarch for my area is an interesting person and one who is constantly challenging me to look deeper into myself. We sit together in a few meetings and he is very in tune with what we can be and what we are. Some things he has said to me scare the heck out of me but you know he has answered some very troubling questions and also told me where I need to go to find some more answers and I am working on that. We have clues given to us many times in our lives as to what we need to do and the direction we need to go and sometimes we even get messengers in this life to help us along the road of life. How many of us really know them when they come into our lives. I know of 3 at the moment and I am sure there are many more I just haven't figured out yet who they are. Some things are known We can't get into the celestial world without following the word of God We can not get to the highest level if we are not married, notice I didn't say married here as I am not sure that is totally correct. We can not be one with Jesus and God if we really don't believe in them and their word. We must endure to the end and sometimes that is going to be very very hard to see the path we must travel as it just might be a trail of tears, sorrow and pain

If you really want to look at water what is here now is what was here when Jesus walked this earth there has been nothing added to the water available but the water that is fit to drink has gone down a lot because of the misuse of our natural resources and it will continue until it will be interesting to see if there is any good clean water to drink at any price any where. If you want to look China is running out of water even polluted water for their people to drink. Here in the states we are running out of water also and we are seeing a lot of the western part of the nation and even some south eastern states that are running short on water so one day it could be very interesting what water you have and just how you plan to use your share.

I am single because the ex decided she could do better than me. I am working through some stuff she left me with besides a big debt think hundreds of thousands here and for the most part I am glad she did get rid of me as I am finding the real me is much more fun and someday yes I would like to be a part of a couple again. The pickings being small for sisters is not a whole lot better for the brothers either. I have been told I should have a job and not going to college, forget I had career for 37 years that I retired from. That I could not possibly keep them in a life style they are accustomed too. That I am looking at women that are to young for me, never mind the ex was in that age group. No it was not that great a difference in age something like 10 years. I am not the kind of priesthood holder they want aka I am only an elder not a high priest whatever that has to do with being a good husband and companion. I have even drove 5 hours to have a dinner date just to go out on a date and then drive 5 hours home again. Why to have a interesting night out and also to have a lively conversation over dinner kind of hard when there is only one of you at the table. I see marriage as being something more than I love you right now but you know in a few years I need to dump you because you have aged. Oh well maybe someday there will be someone that is right for me if not then I will live alone which I hate but is so much better than being a part of something where you are not loved, wanted or desired beyond what you can do for the other person in the relationship.

News flash First marriages are hard work and good ones really take a lot of work!! when is the last time you told your wife you loved her? bought her some flowers? candy? took her out for a night of dinner, dancing, movie whatever? What you both look like in another 10 years just might shock you even more than you are now. I have lost most of my hair, yes I am more rotund than I was 40 years ago, have changed a great deal as a lot of life has pasted. I have had a wife murdered, kids not like me as adults, failed marriages and yet you know I am on the road that the good Lord decided was my road. I have a dear lady friend that was very large and has after decades lost almost half of that weight was it easy? Think of moving your car with your little finger only that is how I see weight loss is for women. If your wife feels you don't love her as she is now why try as you will not love her if she changes. My ex has been working real hard with the new guy to change and is some areas she has in others the jury is still out. That is life we get to advance or not and the ball is in our court. Try not seeing any of her faults as faults because you know I bet she has had them for a very long time just like your faults. Does she tell you everything verbally or not of your faults? I see a woman as a companion, soul mate and most of all lover and in none of this have I looked at her the way the world sees her as that is not what attracted me to her in the first place. I have been with some very attractive women that were fun to be out with but to marry not my kind of person and yes there have been some I could see me with but it never worked out that way so why worry someday it will either work with someone or life will end and I will still be looking or waiting or maybe that is why I left this life as someone on the other side wants me. Life is to short to let little things like weight, looks, whatever you want top put in there matter if you truly love your wife then make her believe it, show her and most of never let silly things like weight, wrinkles, failing bodies enter into the relationship as remember in this life we are to be challenged and learn and grow.

First that glass from Germany does it have a lid on it ? if so it is a beer stein. Yes Germans drink from beer steins goes way back in history. The manner of his drinking is what Germans do when they wish to show off their drinking ability. I know I am German and yes I have a beer stein I drink pop and lemon aide from. What he is doing is showing his displease for the new you and doesn't know how else to show he doesn't like the you are now. Go get some counseling whether is willing to go or not. You have to worry about you and you first. I know of many split religious families that make it work because they are willing to work at it They know there are differences but they make them a positive in the relationship not a negative. Just to give you and idea how it works, I have a lady friend who is Chinese and I am not and we see the challenges as a source of growth not road blocks and we also see that we are better together than apart and most of all we are willing to see where it leads and not put up road blocks for no good reason. I really think your husband is frustrated that you are not the person he married and is willing to do anything to bring you back into his world even it might drive the two of you apart which he doesn't see yet. Best of luck and let us know how it works out. Remember you are a daughter of God so you do have rights, expectations and also rewards that are yours but with that also comes challenges and hard decisions which only you can make for yourself.

I have done a dna sample and it shows my dna traveled from Africa to America in several different routes and what is interesting so do many other Native American blood lines. When look at any given language today you must realize it has changed over time from what it once was to what it is now. Want an example look at the French that is spoken in Canada and what is spoken in France they are similar but not the same. I think it is interesting to look at our ancestors and study who they were and how they lived and what they did. If you want to get hung up on what language they spoke and how it relates to us today to me it is a waste of time as this will get sorted out later when it once again matters. Look at English and how it has changed from just the 1600's to today and yet we accept this as just the way it is.

Well lets look at a few things First do we know for a fact that the earth has never done this before? The answer is no as we only know what the weather has been for what the last hundred or two hundred years. Second as we move closer to the end we all know things are going to get strange. Third have any of you noticed that the magnetic poles of the earth are shifting and yes this has happened before. What influence does this have on our lives and the planet? Fourth I wonder just how much water is being wasted each year for swimming pools, toilets, watering yards, washing vehicles, fountains and such and if we stopped this would we be better off or worse off? Fifth what is the correct use of our natural resources in any nation on this planet? Sixth and last for now have we been good stewards of nature and are we good stewards of nature in all aspects of our lives?

Well for me a civil marriage turned into a temple marriage a few years later when she joined the church and then I lost her just 4 years after when she was murdered I had the knowledge maybe one day again I can be with her for eternity. So for me a civil marriage was the gateway to a temple marriage. I think we need to look long and hard at what a marriage is to us. Can a temple marriage end, of course just like any other marriage there is no guarantee in this life that temple marriage will last and a civil marriage won't. As to a civil marriage ending at death well yes that is true but what if you are divorced and fall in love with someone who is also a lone and sealed to someone else should you say to heck with this person as they can 't be sealed to me so they are just not worth having in this life? That to me is just plain stupid, we have no idea of what tasks, challenges we are to deal with in this life in many cases. For that matter because someone we marry is sealed to another do we know for a fact in the next life this is going to be true? A civil marriage can work and even go beyond this life if it is what was the plan for us and no we don't know what it will be like in the next life as I only know of one person who has been there and returned. He did nothing to answer that question. When looking at a civil marriage and the fact you may or may not be able to be sealed to your spouse is it not more important to ask the question can we make it together, through this life and let somethings be taken care of in the next life. We first have to make it through this life to the next before some questions can be answered don't we? I am currently writing to someone who is not in the church, may not even know about the church as in their country it is against the law to discuss such things. If we did the person could be thrown in prison or killed just because we were talking about the church. We have a bond that is growing and some times I wonder why this individual and I have hit it off so well. Yes the person is divorced and so am I so what does that mean we can not be happy together for the rest of what is left of our lives? NO Does it mean because she may never join the church in this life I should dump her? No Does it mean because we have already dealt with many issues I should walk away? No it just has shown that life issues don't scare us and that we will face them together and isn't that what we are to learn here how to deal with issues? What is more important to me is that I am walking the path that I chose in the preexistence and with the guidance of the Holy Ghost and my elder brother Jesus and Heavenly Father I am doing what they want me to do at this point in time? I think at times we look at challenges/issues with worldly eyes when we should be looking with heavenly eyes. Some day I hope to have some real answers to some of my really challenging questions in this life and to also understand why that is the correct answer for me.

I know this is an old post but when we talk of China we must remember that the government and those who work for it are not the real Chinese people. I have a lady friend in China and we have talked a lot about differences here and in China. I hope one day to be able to go there and spend time with my friend. Her family is excited about meeting me. In China family and face are very important. One can dishonor a Chinese person very easily if you are unaware of the customs and life style. Many Chinese live in homes/apartments that have no heat so in the winter it is very cold inside as well as outside. If you are in a Chinese hospital family brings food in to you the hospital doesn't feed you. Also yes there is a church presence in Hong Kong and it is not really part of China. Think I am wrong you need a separate visa to go to China and then to Hong Kong. My friend and I can not speak about the church as it could get her imprisoned or killed. Yep very different place and by the way one day there will be a number of missions in China. In the city where my friend lives there is somewhere between 34-39 million people in just one city. She lives in the old Capital of China and it is also where the flying tigers museum is, something I want to see very much as that was when China and the US were friends. It was moved to her city when Mao decided it needed to go and the people decided it was a national treasure and so they moved it to her city. As to learning Chinese, yes it is a hard language but you know if the Lord feels you need to know it and understand the people it will happen. My friend is going to teach me Chinese and wants to see how people react when they realize I understand what they are saying. Three times in my life I have got the impression I should get to know the Chinese people better and now I am and just wonder why it is so important for me to know, understand and yes enjoy the Chinese people. Just a tid bit do you realize that China is running out of water, not just to drink but water period. People there are drinking muddy water, dirty water and bacteria filled water because that is all there is for them to drink. Here in the US our time of good clean and abundant water is also coming to an end. Think I am wrong look at how many western states are in a year round drought situation anymore. California is worried that they don't have enough water for this summer. In my own state we think we may have enough water but only when we get to fall will it be really known if we did or not.

The sad part is that we all if we have a conscious idea of what we should be like feel hurt when bad things happen to us. We beat ourselves up way more than we deserve, why I think one reason is because we are available to beat up. Second is the longer we feel that this is terrible no one will want me I am damaged, used and unclean the longer it will be before anyone including ourselves will see us any different. If we show the world and ourselves we can pick ourselves up, dust off the dirt from the last relationship and look forward it will get noticed and we will have to do nothing but be ourselves, happy, enjoying life and wondering what is next on our journey in this life. The one thing that has kept me moving ever so slowly forward is that I do not believe my savior wants me to be alone and lonely in this life. Why because if I live the rest of my life here alone I will want to be alone in the next as that is what I know and understand. So how can I advance and be of greater value if I have shut myself away in this life and know little of the joys I missed, the sorrows I missed because I was in my own self pity party for so long. My ex and her new man invited me to go to the hot springs yesterday when I took my kids back to them. It was sort of strange as she is not the woman I used to love and share life with anymore she is just someone I know. The kids loved having dad with them and playing in the pool and we had a great time. Some other kids even came over and wanted in our fun and yes I let them and they had fun also it was a good day for me as it allowed me to see that even kids can like me and even if they don't know me they know I am someone safe for them to be around. Yes the parents noticed these kids all around me and just thought it was so interesting that their kids felt safe in joining in. She has been removed from my loving heart by my savior and now I just hope he has someone or something to replace that big open empty whole in my heart. When we can forgive those who harm us most and most dearly we can begin to walk forward. Now for what you should do well first stop blaming the church, it had nothing to do with him being a jerk it was all his doing. Second learn from this about men and how to read them and how to maybe find this out before marriage, Third work hard on your spiritual advancement, Fourth be thankful you are not pregnant with his child so you never have to deal with him again, and lastly enjoy spring it is a chance for a new you, a you that can smell those sweet flowers, see the beauty in nature and life around you an most of all you are free to be you and to look forward to a happy life.

LDS Bishops Work very hard to keep the family unit in tack because for one thing it is a very important aspect of our religion that families stick together. Life hands us some pretty hard situations and most with help can be met and dealt with. Some others can't and adultery is one that makes keeping the couple together hard. Abuse is something that is not accepted and neither party gets out of it without scars. In every case we can think of why a marriage might/should end there are cases of where the couple wanted to work hard enough to rebuild the relationship that it has worked. How often I would guess maybe 1 in 1000 or maybe even 1 in 10,000. In today's it easy to get a divorce legal world sometimes things listed for the reason of divorce are just plain silly and yet they are granted a divorce. Then there are cases where the divorce was needed to protect someone in the relationship be it kids, spouse or even sometimes a relative. Where I see the issue is look at how many divorced individuals there are now in the world. Just how do these people find a good partner the next time around? Should they be forced to live the rest of their lives alone and lonely because a marriage failed? Should we say it you get divorced three times then you are banned from ever being a marriage again? Where did God ever write that once you divorce you are to live alone for the rest of your life? Is this a just God who punishes us for our failures in relationships? How would God answer the divorced individuals prayers for a good loving mate in this life? Maybe buy off you had your chance and you blew it? I think not or How stupid can you be you married and let it fail how can I trust you with another? NO as he has taken our free agency away then in the end it is our choice to be alone or look for another love and yes we may even fail again in that relationship but it takes two to kill a relationship and it takes to two to make it work also so in the end the failed relationship has both parties sharing some part of the failure. No I will not say blame as that assumes one is more right than the other and that is not a true way to look at the issue. Divorce takes from both partners, don't think because one doesn't see their part in the failure as meaning they have no ownership in the situation. It can be because of lies, unfailfulness, just falling out of love with the other and the worst just plain giving up on trying to be happy with this person. They are all failures and all have solutions and should be looked at before entering into another relationship. If your marriage ended because of lies, why when and how did they enter into the relationship If your marriage ended because of unfaithfulness what role did you have in this? If your marriage ended because of love leaving the relationship what could you maybe have done to keep it alive, did you date after marriage? why or why not, give flowers for no reason, let your spouse watch the football game without interruption or maybe learn about the game or did you make his/her favorite meal once in while without being asked or maybe just take some time and go into the bedroom or family room and just be close and let the other know you still care about them and what is bothering them and even just listen sometimes. Marriages fail because we see the faults in the other sometimes justified some times just because it can be done and then Satan has his foot in the door and nothing will change the direction of the relationship it is over. Sometimes the issues start way back at the dating and getting to know each other and things are over looked that should not have been and then one day it all hits us in the face and we are totally devastated that relationship was built on lies and now we are hurt very bad and want to lash out at everything and anything we can. Is it our fault we missed the clues maybe but that does no one any good to look at it that way. What has to be accepted is the relationship is over, we are hurt, we have been lied too, maybe even cheated on and yet life will go on so we need to take these issues to the Lord and let him help us sort them out and then to let him try to direct us in the path we have fallen off from and move forward. Will it be easy no, will it be a short time we are alone, only the Lord knows the true answer to that question and most of all we need to begin to feel good about ourselves, accept we must had some part in all of it, try to do better in the future and again look forward not backward as if we keeping backward we are going to miss all the beauty that is front of us and just maybe fall down on that huge stone, pot hole or limb that is in our path we don't see because we are looking backward. It is not our right, role or even desire really to hurt another as this is God's right and he is the only one who has the right to judge. Even our religious leaders are counseled as to what, how and to what extent they can be the judge over those that are their responsibility. The one who will hand out the final judgement and the ever lasting judgement of each and every one of us is Jesus Christ and he alone has that right and power and ability. I for one don't want to be in that chair as even those who have harmed me the most in this life if I know all the facts might have some redeeming quality that I never saw until the book of life of this person is opened and read.

It is not the church that failed you it was a man, a human being that will one day have to answer some really difficult questions as the one asking them already knows the answers. You are going to need time to mend and again develop a trust of men, remember this though that your home teachers are there to be a of support for you. Go and talk with your bishop about everything and don't leave anything out, if he is a good bishop he will be in touch with your ex's bishop and questions will get asked. The Lord gives us only trails he is sure we can conquer if we but listen to the small still voice and go in the direction it tells us to go. My ex did things when a life issue with me came to a head and she said some really hurtful things to me and yes it has left me wondering if there is a woman out there I can truly trust, give my heart to and not be hurt again. Will I ever find this person I don't know but know things the Lord has put in my path and an individual that has been very understanding of me, my challenges and struggles, even a few times when I have tried to push this person away as it was just too painful to think there could be someone who could care about me, she has stayed, has given me a reason to keep going and most of all she has always found something positive in life's negative issues. Will we go beyond penpals I don't know as I am still scared of being wrong again in the person I chose to be with. One thing I know is that there is a reason why we are still writing and most of all there is to be challenges in our lives. Some realities are some of us are going to be alone in this life, some of us will never have children in this life, some of us will lose our partner in this life, some of us will be lucky and never know any of these issues in this life and lastly some will have a partner, children and other issues to deal with. I look at it this way when I was in Heaven my father in heaven asked me out of all the human issues that I could possibly have to deal with in this life which ones did I want. Looking in the bag I noticed some really tough ones that had not been taken and there were still quite of few so I reached in not looking and took a handful and told him I hoped that I had not taken too many, that he would always help me when I fell down and that one day again I could hug him and he hug me and from that point on we could be together for eternity. That is why keeps me fighting, keeps me close to the church and also keeps me realizing life is not meant to be easy it is meant to be hard and challenging and the more challenges we have the stronger we become if we want to and the weaker Satan influence on us becomes over time. Today is Sunday I hope you read this early enough you can get dressed and go to church and enjoy the day. By the way today is my special day and I will go to church and enjoy it with my church family as I am in a ward that is very strong, very kind and even likes and old grouch like me. May the Lord bless and give you comfort now and forever.

Blackmarch I can only speak from my experience and yes there was a Bishop interview actually several because of how much the divorce and how it went affected me. No I did not seek the divorce it was her idea and she did things. She was remarried 24 hours after the divorce was final. Will I ever get married again I would hope so as being alone stinks. My bishop even has tried to encourage me to think about getting married again. My issue is how to trust another woman again period. So many LDS sisters do so little to change my mind that it is mind boggling to even think there could be someone for me out there someplace. Divorce in America is a joke you can get a divorce for almost any reason you can think of and most of the time it is just a way of moving up in social status for the individuals in the divorce. Divorce is just a way in some cases of admitting you are unwilling to deal with life's issues when they show up in a marriage and it is much easier to just call it quits and go find a new partner.

First the size of the dog matters little, it is the sound that someone outside the house is what counts. Even a recording of a dog has been know to work sometimes. reality check here all one has to do to make a burglar alarm not work is cut your power line and yes they do know how to do that. To much TV and movie reference to this simple fact No one is making the claim a firearm is the first line of protecting yourself or your family. Yes there are kids in my house at times and yes they are locked up and the firearms are not my only means of defense. As to the condition of my firearms you will have to break into my home for that answer. When it is all considered is it better to fight or die in a home invasion only you can answer that question no one can answer that for another person. I doubt that a firearm if placed correctly is slow to get to and why would you have it unloaded in your home for self defense purposes anyway? That would be like leaving your door unlocked because you can not find your keys always. Just not a good idea or do you think leaving your door unlocked is a good idea. It is true many should not have a firearm because taking a life is not an easy thing to do, but then is it easy to watch those you love shot in front of our or raped or beaten. First there isn't a .21 caliber firearm that I am aware of, but then I don't know every firearm made. So I will assume you mean a .22 caliber firearm. So lets look at this firearm well it has low recoil, ammunition is cheap and so are many of the firearms that use it. If you shoot someone with it many times you better have a lot of ammunition on hand and easy to get to, better hope your victim is willing to wait for you to reload. If you want a pistol that will do some good get a 9mm, 38 special, 40 or .357 mag, something that will stand a good chance of stopping your attacker. As to keeping your firearm under your pillow read up on how many folks do themselves in with the firearm is there. Cell phone and 911 good idea but look up the average response time in your area. Sorry but sometimes it is like 15 minutes or longer and that is plenty of time to cave your head in and be gone if the baddies want too. What has not really been addressed is that: first a firearm is not for everyone second if you have a firearm and need to use it you need to know ahead of time that you are willing to take a life if necessary third no one is making the claim that a firearm is always the answer to have a good means of defense. Think baseball bat, kitchen knives, hammers, screw drivers, and many other tools that are around most homes today. fourth you have to decide what works for you where you are and then make sure it never changes and if it does what will you do to modify your safety. No one here can give you these answers and only you can be held responsible for your safety and those you love. I have made this decision and have taken the steps to make this a working system for me and mine and will it work I hope I never have to find out.

Anne Now using your safety system ideas Alarms system can be disabled or bypassed dog can be put down very easily locks on doors and windows glass is easy to cut and not make a sound doing it A firearm isn't always the answer agreed but then again nothing is really. The best idea is refuse to be a victim, you may get hurt but never make it easy for the baddies. Also always assess your options and then act them.

A shotgun is a short range weapon if using what is called shot as the load if using a load called a slug then it will go much farther and through much more things much like a pistol bullet. A shotgun loaded with shot #6 is a good one as there is lots of lead pellets in the load, they are fairly large buy lead shot standards you can go larger and use#2 or 4 if you want to go larger but you really gain little when looking at distance and effective use. The FBI load is what is called #2 shot and it was used because it made a big mess real fast and also stopped the baddies real fast. I like #6 better as it is can also be used as a hunting load so has two real purposes one to help you acquire food to eat and the other to keep you safe if needed. Don't ever think that a shotgun blast will not be lethal at close ranges before it has a chance to open up it acts much like a big heavy slug and when it opens up some it acts like many little lead balls all on a course to cause some kind of reaction to something in the path of the shot. Also if considering using a shotgun if you live where the walls are thin you will send some shot into the next living area, yes it goes through thin walls quite nicely. It travels a shorter distance than a pistol bullet but it will go through the normal house walls if they are thin sheet rock walls with hollow cores which is what most interior walls are in our homes. Nothing that is classified as a firearm in most cases is not capable of going through the interior walls of your home. Yes you can get down into some of smaller calibers and it becomes and interesting discussion as to just how small you can go and still have something that will save your life. Never ever get the idea that a firearm will not do damaged if aimed correctly and fired at another human being. Whether it stops the threat or not is sometimes up to the victim and also whether the person doing the shooting is willing to fire again if needed. We are not talking of just flashing a shotgun or other firearm at another person intent or harming us we are talking of taking the action of firing the firearm to protect us or our loved ones here. You need to train, yes I said train your family to hit the floor and hide if some people with bad intent enter your home. Why because if you fire your firearm in the house and a bedroom is behind a baddie and it goes through them, through the wall and your loved one is standing there they just maybe hurt also and we don't want that to happen. Another issue is they come to the door of their bedroom and the baddies now have a human shield to use to get you to drop your firearm and then it is a very bad situation as now they have your firearm to cause damage and your prints on it and the shells and if they have gloves on how do you prove you did not shoot your own loved ones, even if they kill everyone in the house? So when the cops come in it looks like a murder suicide and you get labeled as the deranged person. I know you are dead but those you leave behind do not need to remember you as this kind of person do they? It is all well and good to talk about this or that firearm but if you are really intent on having one or the other or both being discussed here go get some real training from someone who instructs the police, military, security individuals preferably at least two of these groups and is current on what is and is not a good thing to have for defense in the home and just what it means to use them to protect yourself or others that are in your home.

Dravin First yes the sentence is messed up It should read," why would you think that at some point in our journey in this life we are all not going to die it is not in the cards of any of our futures for it to be any other way." None are going to get out of this life without first dying and then being res erected at some point in the future. Second I am thinking more if say you are in one area and there are herbs to be had in a distance area how without all the means we use today to move about would you get this accomplished? I am not thinking of a SHTF (Society Has Totally Failed ) scenario here more of a major natural disaster like we are seeing in the news with the current tornadoes and such. See here is how I see it unless there is a total SHTF event then there will be places that have things and places that need things and it is going to be very hard for the two of them to even know this bit of knowledge and how would you best accomplish this task? What I am getting at is think like it is around the 17-1800's as they had the same issues and accomplished them so how would you now a much smarter and intelligent person accomplish the same tasks?

Loudmouth yea a good a really good book would be nice and since I am looking at starting over again with herbs and it has been decades would be nice to not make some of the mistakes this time around. Dravin why would think that at some point we are all going to die is not in the cards of your future? I am not talking about that just what if nature messes up your plans and you would like to obtain some more herbs where do you turn to find them. Sorry I like options the more the better.

Talisyn Never asked you to see things the way I do or anyone for that matter I find liberals who spend money we don't have that my great grand children will be lucky to see paid off for what so far almost nothing is wrong. Sorry if that offends you. I find conservatives that are so in name only offensive I liberals that are so only for gain also offensive I have watched those who call themselves conservatives do some very dangerous liberal things all in the name of it is best for the majority. I have seen liberals do some very conservative things when the pressure was there so how true are they to being liberals? Finally if you don't like what I write don't read it and just press your ignore this person button won't offend me in the least. Have a nice day

that is a good answer but I live in the city in an apartment that is 20 stories high and the nearest ground is 20 miles away. From your garden is good too if there hasn't been a nuclear event, a flood, hurricane, tornado, drought, you name the event. Some of those of us here have no idea what the herbs look like growing in our garden because some previous owner had planted them. I am hoping to move back into the country this year with the help of a dear friend and will be the caretaker of some property with freedom to make it my own place until I leave this life. We will be planting fruit trees, grapes, strawberries, etc and have a huge garden area, I would like to build a good sized herb garden also but will have to learn again what they look like in the garden. Nature and man can ruin the best of plans and ideas so I again ask the question when there is no place to get your herbs and what you have stored is used up where do you get them?

Lets look at this issue from a different direction First we know man and woman are not meant to live life alone but many of us find that is the life we live. Second many couples want a family and life sometimes seems to block that joy. Third we all know we are here for a reason that can take us a life time to figure out. So with this knowledge we know that somewhere in the world there just might be that special someone for us but we may have to work very hard to find them. Also we know some of us are going to be alone in this life because of issues we have with relationships because of what this life has handed us. We know if we find that special someone that having a family may or may not happen and also that family has many meanings that are different to different people. Adopting is not a bad thing I have several adopted kids and they are all my kids period. Why because the good Lord put it in my head that I was to do this thing. I am divorced now and get to see some of these kids and you know something almost all of them still think of me as their dad and yes they know they are adopted the ex thought that would pull them away from me but it has backfired as they want to know more about me. I knew a dear friend of mine years ago that married and the one partner wanted nothing to do with kids and the marriage ended real fast like in less than a year and it was a long time before another partner showed up. They had some kids adopted some and you know when you look at a family picture you can not tell the biological kids from the adopted kids. the good Lord gave us a mission sometimes several to work on here in this life. I have found that Job and I have some of the same roads to travel and wonder if that is part of my tasks here. I have been widowed, divorced and now alone again and wonder sometimes did I really screw up that bad that I am totally unworthy to have a companion in this life? I don't know that answer yet but I keep trying to find it and it is the same when we talk about children the many ways they can get here and what is best for us as a couple. I know some single members that wish so much to have a child that they can call their own, but they know at their ages it is not to be in this life. One has other siblings that have families and kids and they have been accepted into that large family structure as another co-parent and in one case they are the ones who are paying so the kids can go to college as being single they were able to take a job that paid well but would not have been good for a relationship as they are always traveling. Life is so much more than is the this couple able to produce a blood related off spring. Think about this what would you say to your son or daughter that found out they could not produce a child with all the medical means of today and they so wanted to be parents? Adoption is not an option either, how would you console them in their hour of dis pare ?

If you are active duty military wearing a uniform is your dress either for work or church or just around the base. I have seen many in uniform going into a temple that was close to a military base, what is wrong with showing up in your dress uniform? I being a former military person like to see our young people step up and put on that uniform don't care what branch as it matters little to me. I was in a ward once where our bishop was a state trooper and he came in dressed for work many times and yes he was wearing his sidearm and we had active MP's that would leave their sidearm in their vehicles which is a violation of their duty status. I was one of the ones that had the honor of escorting these MP's back to their vehicles to get their sidearm and then re-enter the meeting house in full uniform as is required of them when on duty. What is the bottom line here what is required to be properly dressed in your uniform is what you wear to church. A sword is not always a part of the dress uniform. But a sidearm depending on your status just might be. I know some feel uncomfortable around individuals wearing such things but you know if you ever need that tool and it is not available you will never feel unsafe again if someone broke the rule and had it when it was needed most. If we don't have the guts to honor our military personnel when they come to worship no matter what their dress how can be expect them to honor us with their lives when needed to protect us?

Liberals well lets see they gave us the bailout program and how is that working for you? Conservative they like to see money spent wisely and not go on the we can print more money program. Me I have to say I am for less government, less interference with my life and most of all if it really isn't good for America why are we doing it. I can see helping people that are down on their luck but not for nothing they should have to do something more then go pickup the money to live. I would love to see Congress really accomplish something more than take more of my freedoms away think TSA, HSO, EPA and in doing all this good for us look how many Americans can't find work, can't find a decent job, feel safe when walking in their neighborhoods. If you want to see real change you have to first have the courage to say the Constitution and Bill of Rights are the law of the land. There is no reading into what the founding fathers meant when they wrote free to assemble, freedom of religion, etc. We have career politicians now that was never the intent of the founding fathers, we see only rich people and way to many lawyers in public office. Who in the world said that wealth and a law degree make you any smarter than the farmer who grows or raises the food you put in your mouth each meal. When we talk about being liberal or conservative I think we need to look at what is best for America in many of our members and not what is good for the stock market, will get you more votes, will create more unneeded jobs for individuals to have a better life style and feel like they are really important when all said and done we still can only put one leg in each leg of our pants each day when we get ready to do to work. Have you ever seen America so divided? I don't see just one political side in this strange world or even one race it is a mix of some common folks and some very intellectual folks and everyone in between that is wondering what direction are we going and for what purpose. We have walked away from allies and bowed to enemies, we have borrowed money that are our great grand kids will be lucky to see paid off, we have killed the business segment of America look how much stuff is made over seas now, we don't even have enough oil to meet our needs but we have clean exhaust or do we coming out of vehicles, we have high unemployment and it is going to go higher as the price of fuel goes up so will unemployment as sales are going to go down because people can not afford to buy stuff. Whether you are liberal, Conservative or a little of both we need to really come together as a nation and look for what is best for all of us I don't care your political leanings, your race, social status or even religion if we do not look out for each other we will surely fail as a nation and the world needs someplace where freedom is still real and active and alive.