MsMagnolia

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    MsMagnolia got a reaction from Sunday21 in Advice on my marriage problems   
    Magicmormon, trust is such an incredible thing. It can also be a fragile thing. In a marriage trust is essential. You have broken your wife's trust repeatedly and now you expect her to blindly trust you again. Trust doesn't work like that. You have to earn it. It is a building process that takes time. You are in the repentance process and I commend you for that. You have to accept that she needs to sort through all the experiences of the past three years and decide what to do next. Let her make the decision. You cannot bully or force her to an early decision. Pray for her, pray for your marriage. Leave it in the Lord's hands and make sure you are doing EVERYTHING in your power to save your marriage within the confines of the laws. Above all else...Trust that the Lord is mindful of everything going on in your life and He knows both yours and your wife's hearts. Trust him. Learn to trust yourself again. That way your wife can hopefully have the chance to see you as a truly changed individual.
    Just my thoughts,
    Mags
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    MsMagnolia reacted to Wingnut in Trouble with 15 yr old and bishop interview   
    +1 to everything you've said here.  If this was my daughter, she'd be in so much trouble!  I would not be concerned about the bishop -- I'd be focused entirely on her manipulation.  I'd also be concerned about where/how she's learning such detail that she can just spout off extemporaneously.
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    MsMagnolia reacted to yjacket in Trouble with 15 yr old and bishop interview   
    I'll be blunt.
     
    Something is seriously wrong in this situation and it's not the bishop.  Your child has some serious issues that if not resolved now will lead to misery down the road.
     
    Obviously this teenager is quite frankly rebellious and is playing you like a fiddle.
     
    You are more upset at the bishop for asking for details, rather than being more upset at your daughter for a) deceiving the bishop and actually explaining "tawdry fornications".  I can only imagine what that might be, if it goes beyond just "having sex".  
     
    I think I might be more upset at any of my kids for making up such stuff, actually feeling comfortable explaining such stuff to an adult (especially a religious leader when it didn't happen) than doing it.  At least if they did it, they could say they got caught up in emotions, etc.  But planning something like that shows a complete lack of respect for authority, religion, and a total disregard for the actual sin of fornication.
     
    If she feels comfortable talking about it now . . . there is very little doubt in my mind that later on it won't be just talk.
     
    Again, I'm going to be perfectly blunt,  you need to wake up and take control . . .and even if you do now it might be too late.
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    MsMagnolia reacted to pam in Letter from the Office of the First Presidency   
    I think President Hinckley said it as plainly as it can be said.  This is on mormon.org:
     
    Gordon B. Hinckley, prior President of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, said:
    “Women do not hold the priesthood because the Lord has put it that way. It is part of His program.
     
    http://www.mormon.org/faq/women-in-the-church
     
    If the prophet takes it to prayer and inquires of the Lord and the Lord tells him no through personal revelation...does it have to be written down or some kind of scripture?  Ir we truly believe that President Hinckley or President Monson or any of those great men before them aren't prophets and don't receive answers to their prayers...then...I don't know.
     
    The why's of so many things hasn't been revealed to us.  Sometimes we have to be satisfied and have faith that we'll have answers in due time.
     
    Right now I'm satisfied with what President Hinckley said..."The Lord has put it that way."
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    MsMagnolia reacted to bytor2112 in Utah gay marriage ban overturned, court rules   
    Heavenly voice: "Brother Such and Such, please report to the Saviors office so that you may give an accounting for your mortal probation."
    "So, I see you supported same sex marriage....tell me your thoughts on why you made those choices and how the Holy Spirit guided you to that decision.
    " Um, well you see.....it just wasn't fair and they deserved equality and it was more loving to help them by supporting it"
    "More loving than.... My love for them?"
    "Well...no ..but..."
    "And how did this assist them in coming unto me......by supporting that which can never lead to true happiness and peace? Did u perhaps consider the generations that would struggle to understand truth because of this grand deception? Or those that would stray because of the confusion you helped support? "
    I cannot fathom the degree of shame I would have if when I give an accounting for my life I had supported something that can only deny our Brothers and sisters a safe journey home to the Father. We no doubt live in the last days and the bridegroom is at the door......as Elder McConkie wrote of future tests and trials in 1982 :
    " But the vision of the future is not all sweetness and light and peace. All that is yet to be shall go forward in the midst of greater evils and perils and desolations than have been known on earth at any time.
    As the Saints prepare to meet their God, so those who are carnal and sensual and devilish prepare to face their doom.
    As the meek among men make their calling and election sure, so those who worship the God of this world sink ever lower and lower into the depths of depravity and despair.
    Amid tears of sorrow-our hearts heavy with forebodings-we see evil and crime and carnality covering the earth. Liars and thieves and adulterers and homosexuals and murderers scarcely seek to hide their abominations from our view. Iniquity abounds. There is no peace on earth.
    We see evil forces everywhere uniting to destroy the family, to ridicule morality and decency, to glorify all that is lewd and base. We see wars and plagues and pestilence. Nations rise and fall. Blood and carnage and death are everywhere. Gadianton robbers fill the judgment seats in many nations. An evil power seeks to overthrow the freedom of all nations and countries. Satan reigns in the hearts of men; it is the great day of his power."
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    MsMagnolia got a reaction from pam in Origin of your Avatar   
    Mine is my husband and I in front of the San Diego Temple. 
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    MsMagnolia reacted to FunkyTown in What to do about future father in law   
    Hi, Apex!
     
    Your wife knows what your father-in-law is like. Don't bad-mouth him. Don't speak badly of him. Let her.
     
    He is not obligated to pay for anything. He does not owe you that. Just accept that your wedding will be difficult, support your wife and tell her how much you love her.
     
    If you bad mouth her father, even if you're right, it will make your wife feel bad. It will not make him feel bad. It will accomplish nothing but make your wife even more stressed out. Do not talk to the father-in-law. It will only make things worse between you and him.
     
    Let it go. I'm sorry he won't help. That's a shame.
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    MsMagnolia reacted to dahlia in Ending a relationship over a washer and dryer   
    Y'all are better people than I am. Let me get this straight - you (OP) moved out of your condo and left the washer/dryer. Someone you knew moved in and you rented your condo to them? Is this correct?
     
    If so, as a landlord, you had a tenant that just freaking stole your stuff. You can go all Mormon on this and decide not to pursue it, and I will understand that, but at what point do your own rights come into play? The machines are yours. Not 'were' yours, are yours. I'd send a nice, 'you're my friend and everything and we don't want this to get messy' certified letter saying they had 5 days to return your machines in working order or you were going to file a claim in small claims court. You can't threaten criminal action, but I'd sure have it in the back of my mind. They STOLE your stuff.
     
    I couldn't be friends with people who stole my stuff and then took an attitude with me about giving it back. Why would you want to be friends with people like this? I can assure you, they do this now, there is more malfeasance just waiting to happen.
     
    People always tell you who and what they are, most of the time folks just don't want to listen.
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    MsMagnolia reacted to Just_A_Guy in Ending a relationship over a washer and dryer   
    Do they have a legal/moral reason for keeping them? Are they claiming them as an offset for a debt you owe them or maintenance they did on your condo, for example?
    If not, I'd sue them in small claims court and report them to local police. Yeah, you were a bit of a schmuck; but this is still thievery and they WILL do it to someone else, because that's the kind of people they are. (Right?). I submit that you might have a moral obligation to their future victims. If you won't stop them, then who will?
    (As for the original question: no-brainer to me. They swindled you; the relationship's over. You don't need to get all dramatic and tell them why it's over; but you sure as heck don't need to seek out their company anymore. Let them fade out of your life.)
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    MsMagnolia reacted to The Folk Prophet in Those who die before the age of 8   
    The doctrine is clear and it is fleshed out. They will go to the celestial kingdom. It means exaltation.
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    MsMagnolia got a reaction from faith4 in Try something new   
    http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/alton-brown/frittata-recipe.html
     
    Frittatas are another great way to use home grown produce. We love adding tomato, bell pepper, green onions, even fresh broccoli and snow peas. Sooooo good!
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    MsMagnolia reacted to FunkyTown in Excommunications on the Rise.   
    I have a theory about this whole 'Ordain Women' thing.
     
    If you believe that President Monson is guided by God, then pray to God for women to receive the Priesthood. If it's the right thing to do, he'll get the message. If he doesn't, he won't.
     
    If you don't believe he's guided by God, then why are you in the church in the first place?
     
    It seems to me that the big problem here isn't asking for the Priesthood(That could definitely be a righteous desire. Heck - I wanted the Priesthood. ) or in questioning the Church(We're a diverse people. Nothing wrong with questioning).
     
    The problem here is demanding God's will be subservient to yours - Asking a question and only accepting one answer. That way never turns out well.
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    MsMagnolia reacted to The Folk Prophet in Accredited Christian law school grads barred from practice   
    Nonsense. Religion dictates values. Values dictate morality. Morality dictates governance. 
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    MsMagnolia reacted to The Folk Prophet in Accredited Christian law school grads barred from practice   
    Separation of church and state means, and has always meant, that there is no state church and no church state. It means that the religious organization is not the government and the government does not dictate religion. It does not mean, nor has it ever meant, that religious people are banned from participating in government.
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    MsMagnolia reacted to Backroads in Michigan Hospital Incident with a 17 year old daughter and a Mom   
    In my view, this has nothing to do with the finer points of sex and morality and potential abuse and yadayadayada. 
     
    What this does involve is the state stepping into the parental role with rights for no good reason.  This is the State saying "We have more rights to your child than you do."
     
    Sure, mention all the instances of family abuse you want.  Guess what?  There are already options in place for those iffy situations.
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    MsMagnolia reacted to pam in Michigan Hospital Incident with a 17 year old daughter and a Mom   
    So we are to move every time a new law is passed that we have issues with?  Sometimes it takes people to make changes. People who aren't afraid to stand up for what they believe. 
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    MsMagnolia reacted to estradling75 in "Believe" vs "Know"   
    Joseph Smith saw a vision of God the Father, and Jesus Christ.  This was clearly a profound and spiritual event for him.  When he told others about it he was derided and told it was impossible.  There was no way he could prove such an event...  But his response was that he knew it and that he knew that god knew that he knew it.
     
    Do people sometimes overstate what they believe and hope for as knowledge?  Sure.  But at the same time it is very possible for people to have such a profound spiritual witness that it is correct for them to say, "I know"
     
    For those of us looking from the outside we simply can not tell the difference barring a spiritual confirmation of their word
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    MsMagnolia got a reaction from pam in Try something new   
    Pam you are always invited for Hawaiian haystack night at the mags household!
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    MsMagnolia reacted to pam in Brother of Jared   
    This is why.  
     

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    MsMagnolia reacted to skippy740 in Whoopsies! Flamed the neighbour's bushes...   
    What would President Monson do if he lit a field on fire?  
     
    Oh wait...