Mamas_Girl

I've been happily married to my husband for 20 years now and he's always prefered women without make-up. I think it all depends on the guy.

I think of the hymn The Spirit of God v. 6 How blessed the day when the lamb and the lion Shall lie down together without any ire; And Ephraim be crowned with his blessings in Zion, As Jesus descends with his chariots of fire! This makes me tend to think not only our pets will be there, but lions and tigers and bears! But that's okay, cause they'll be nice by then. :)

I believe the story to be true. But that said, I've seen the Spirit work on a lot of people in similar situations both Christian and atheists.

3.39 in Ohio. Heard there was a place about 40 miles from me though where they were holding a gas war, prices were below 3.00. Just not worth driving 80 miles (round trip) for the gas.

I wondered if that could be part of the situation, I wondered if some members with eyesight problems might have difficulty manuevering around legs and feet.

I guess I'm seeing the temple as being a place with all like minded people, we're all LDS. However, since you brought up restaurants I do have a great story. It was Valentine's Day, several years ago, and I'd been inactive for a number of years and decided that I would try a glass or wine with my meal. Shortly after ordering, the family at a nearby table were delivered their food. And a few minutes later they bowed their heads and one of them began "Our Father in Heaven... in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen." It couldn't be... I decided to eavesdrop some on the conversation. While I couldn't hear 99% of the words I did hear things like "Joseph Smith" and some other LDS key words. The waitress returned now with my wine and I like totally freaked! "Please, take it back..." While I don't personally believe in oral prayers in public, I'll be forever greatful to that family, whoever they were for their prayer that night. I'm reactivated, not due to that, but it was another testimony to me, that I was to choose the right even when inactive. I never told the family, butI hope they were blessed for their work.

Huh, so kneeling in the temple is seen as trying to score points? I thought we were allowed to pray, meditate and seek inspiration in the celestial room. I guess I just kinda thought most anyone in there was praying, or seeking some sort of inspiration thus getting their brownie points, apparently. So are we allowed to bow our heads and close our eyes? If so, what's the difference?

I always get the free and clear, no dyes, no perfumes.

I suppose it all depends upon the and/or, but what I'm saying is wouldn't our mission call be an ordination certificate? Then it says and/or, so apparently they may require more, but not necessarily. That was the point I was trying to make. And I did not mean to imply that the Missionary Handbook had anything on this, just that the front of our's from the 1980s had a flap where we were required to carry our reduced sized mission call signed by the President of the Church. Thus, carrying our ordination certificate. Added: The mission call, for those who don't know says, "This certifies that the bearer, [Mamas_Girl] who is in full faith and fellowship with The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, has been duly called and set apart as a missionary of the Church, and as such has authority to preach the principles of the gospel. We invite all people to give heed to her message _______ President dated Salt Lake City, Utah signed by me and expiration date" I have no answer to all this, I'm just throwing stuff out as I see it.

Yeah I said it looks believable, but I also said that I understand how people can take original documents and such and quote portions that fit their agenda. We see that as LDS all the time in the anti-Mormon literature. They will often take things out of context and that changes the entire meaning, but it sure can look convincing.

FWIW, the blouse is a very pretty reddish/purple almost silky type 97% polyester and 3% spandex, made in Indonesia and manufactured for Worthington, sold by JC Penney. The thermals were long sleeved so lots of seem rubbing, thus hot pink where it rubs and baby girl pink everywhere else. Really it is sorta pretty the way it is, but... Does WalMart sell Lickity Split? My husband has a sensitive nose so I have to buy unscented laundry stuff, which means I don't look over anything, just go straight for the Tide. I wonder at what point the stain's set? I've tried normal washing (but not drying), I've tried Oxyclean 12 hour soak... I can probably try this if I can get the citric acid -- after this I may just give up and order a replacement, but keep this for this blouse, and other red based blouses.

Wouldn't the ordination certificate be our mission call? I mean, it would include the fact that we went through the necessary training of our faith to be a missionary. We had to carry a little book called the Missionary Handbook, and in the front of it was our mission call signed by the president of the Church. I just assume that since all missionaries go through the same training with the same curriculum for the mission we're called to, that it's established and all we need to do is show our certificate of completion, so to speak. :) When one is at the MTC they get some of the most condensed religious training that one can get from sunup to sundown. If it would be of any help I can ask a friend on Sunday. I think it was his son, or his son's best friend who went to Japan. Either way he would know if the boy had seminary, though this would have been more than 20 years ago, so may not be relevant.

Just for the record, I didn't say I believed it, I just said that the program gave some really compelling evidence. By compelling evidence I mean supposedly using official records that were declassified after 40 years. As a historian (and a LDS) I know how records can be quoted to prove an agenda. But with the free world at risk I also cannot discount that he may have sacrificed a few for the good of many, just like we did when we dropped the atom bomb on Japan. From a logical aspect I can understand the necessity to do such, but from a human standpoint it seemed like a monsterous thing to do, especially since we didn't know the long term effects of doing such. War is hell.

I don't tend to believe in conspiracy theories, but I did find a BBC documentary "Sacrifice at Pearl Harbor" (1989) to be very interesting. They gave some compelling evidence that FDR was aware of the impending attack (and did nothing to stop it). Of course, as I said the US was more nationalistic and did not want to get involved in overseas wars following WWI, and an attack was the only way to get the country behind the war, and to send manpower to assist the UK, France, and other countries under attack by the Axis powers.

Not really, we were (secretly?) aiding the UK in their defense by selling them warships, planes and other arms, but due to an America first movement following the first world war, America needed to be attacked to get the public behind another world war. The attack on Pearl Harbor gave Americans something to get behind and FDR a reason for declaring war.

Ah, thanks.

I agree. My husband suffers post traumatic stress from his abusive upbringing by a paranoid schizophrenic father and a mother in denial. There's a very big difference between being a cad and inflicting such mental damage that the brain can never fully recover. He's been away from it for over 30 years, but he still has nightmares, there are still triggers that result in flashbacks. He went through his own war called childhood, and he often tells me I'm the best thing to ever happen to him. PS is something not to be messed with, the only true option for the safety of the spouse and children is to get out while they can, and before permanent damage is inflicted.

Thanks! I just learned that one. I'm just so long armed that I hate to wash shirts anymore often than necessary. Even 100% polyester manages to shrink up some on me, don't ask how cause that remains a mystery.

They've been soaking about 12 hours right now. Do you mean to rinse them and then add the peroxide, or add it to the oxyclean?

Actually, many LDS scholars believe they crossed the Pacific, not the Atlantic, and they landed on the western side of Mesoamerica. Reexploring the Book of Mormon - Winds and Currents: A Look at Nephi's Ocean Crossing

Yeah, they've been soaking for about 10 hours now, and they're no better. I agitate them by hand every couple of hours. I just keep hoping. They say not to use chlorine bleach, but I wonder... at this point, what do I have to lose? I just can't believe the blouse is still as purple as ever! Thanks to everyone for the answers!

Okay, so the other day I wore a brand new blouse, never washed. It was purple and it bled all over my 100% polyester "thermals." I've tried washing them, putting them through Oxi-Clean, and trust me, this dye stays on these better than it does the blouse! It takes so long to order, not to mention the fact that they're brand-new. Any thoughts or advise would be greatly appreciated. I mean, they're literally baby girl pink, and hot pink under the armpit/arm area where it rubbed more! Am I best off to just pitch these? Would you consider keeping them to wear under the same blouse in the future? Thought?

Were there other employees (Christians, atheists, etc) who refused to clock out and then clock back in, or who took longer than 10 minute breaks? If yes, how were they treated? Were they also released? To me, that's where the question lies. I don't believe a business should be forced to maintain tardy employees, as long as they treat everyone equally.

Well, that's a good question, especially since many members are converts who've never had seminary, and yet serve missions. Does that mean that they would not recieve callings to Japan, or any of the other countries mentioned in this post? Maybe that's why I was kept in the good ol' USA for my mission.

I will add that I did have another experience that resulted in my being put on church probation. However, I didn't see it as a punishment. I knew what I did was wrong, and I wanted to get it taken care of, so I looked at the punishment more with gladness than with sorrow because I knew that the worst was over and things could only get better. Church probation isn't the same as excommunication. You're still a member, you'll still be expected to attend church meetings, pray fervently at home, and study the scriptures; what you can't do is give public prayers in church, hold callings, or take the sacrament, or of course attend the temple. This usually only lasts from 6-12 months, and then you can go back to doing all the usual things. So don't fear probation either, it's another good thing. The main thing you'll need to do is put it behind you and not repeat your mistake. I didn't "like" resuemom's post because she agreed with me, but because she made a very important comment, the longer you are away from the church the lesser your chances of coming back. I know I came back from my first post because my bishop decided he was going to get me back before his release. That'll teach him, I just came back and he was bishop for something like 8 years! He just kept praying for me till my return. I am now a full temple recommend holder once again. :) The reason that I'm saying this is that it's true, once anyone stops coming out to church they're, in a sense, inviting the wrong spirit in. And once the wrong one gets settled he's a devil to get rid of, and the road back is more painful than if the individual just did the right thing in the first place. Don't let your fear of punishment prevent you from enjoying the blessings of the gospel like I did in my first post. See your bishop ASAP and he'll know what you'll need to do.