TalkativeIntrovert

A very temporal view of why I do not submit to my husband at times: This week we went on a business trip (flying). We have 2 sets of car keys and he insisted on putting them both in the luggage as we would net need them. By insisting, he picked them both up, put them in and was angry when I said we should separate them and keep 1 set in my handbag. After explaining my view (security/potential loss of luggage) he disagreed. It was stupid and stubborn. I took 1 set of keys anyway. There have been a number of issues like this where common sense must prevail. On a church view of this - my husband is inactive, he wanted to force the kids to finish their pamphlet job on a Sunday, in conflict with keeping the Sabbath holy (we have until Wednesday to finish the job). I can't in good faith submit to that. I should say that he is a good man and these are a couple of bad instances, but, no, I will not submit, honour or obey under ALL instances. I have a brain, I have common sense, I have a strong sense of right and wrong and justice. I have had similar issues with parents as well - I wanted to go to Uni, they wanted me to just get any job. My (non member) father would constantly push certain views on drugs and alcohol, I would not partake. A blanket statement of submitting does not make sense.

We went on a business trip this week and my inactive husband asked for (and gave) a prayer before we left! He also opened up about how his choices are affecting (our) future generations. I feel a softening of the heart.

They are 3 separate entities. God appears to Joseph Smith an introduces his son Jesus Christ. God and Jesus have physical bodies, the Holy ghost is a spirit.

Yes - my first testimony meeting, I was not even a member at that stage, had a member on the pulpit spitting fire and brimstone and full criticism to the catholic church - the great abominable church. The missionaries sitting next to me apologised! Another older member would get up and pick out who his future wives would be beyond the veil - he would actually point them out. Very awkward. Those things are weird, uncomfortable and all sorts of other wrong!

Jodytj - your testimony is what you said in the last sentence. Basically it is a declaration of what you believe in or know to be true. I am not sure what is meant by "weird" but we often have ramblers - they talk of everything that happened during the week and only occasionally relate it back to a testimony. It is hard work listening to them sometimes and I feel the it detracts from the spirit of the meeting. That's just my opinion. I love the testimonies of the children, they are often very basic and very pure. The most powerful heard was a 4 yr old saying that they love their family and love their heavenly father and Jesus Christ. As to texting in Sacrament - I would have to wonder why the phones are on at all!!! I would be a little cranky if someone texted me to get my attention during sacrament and my phone is either at home or turned off. I totally lost the spirit and my temper one sacrament meeting when my husband (inactive) received a text from someone who should know a lot better (had been on the bishopric) to arrange to go to the basketball that afternoon!

I think you have hit the nail on the head Gwen! As a convert, I was bought up with a different view of the human body, I grew up in a coastal resort where people went shopping in bikinis and board-shorts! So to me, an uncovered body is not necessarily sexual. Thanks to all for your input, it helps to get an understanding where people are coming from.

I don't find it stimulating. I find it interesting from a biological point of view. That is why I was surprised that someone thought it porn.

Porn seems to be a big topic of discussion here. I had someone say to me recently that some of the pictures on a certain site I am on is considered soft porn. It is a fitness site, it is about weight loss / muscle gain / general fitness with the stronger emphasis on fitness. So what constitutes "soft porn"? Is it a picture of a man or woman in body building mode showing the difference between their cut and uncut bodies? There was 1 fellow who posted a picture asking why he now has this odd muscle that did not seem normal and asked for advice - turns out it was "ädonis belt" and apparently desirable in the body building world. I thought it was simply about anatomy! So is porn, where there is only 1 person in the frame, about intent? The photos I have seen I would have no issue showing my children - so nothing I would consider sexual in nature.

Sorry! I wonder how this ended up on my page when I only ever click "New Posts"? Maybe I clicked something else this time!

Hi and Welcome. Fellow Aussie here, also with twin girls :) ( + a boy to round it out)

My biggest challenges: - giving up coffee - understanding all the weird naming conventions (brother /sister / elder /etc) - fitting into a sociable place when I am not sociable - getting to know the customs, I didn't know that singlet tops and pants weren't acceptable attire. No one told me, or if they did it hadn't sunk in. I need fairly direct instruction on things and there were a few too many "pray about it" responses. - as a new member there was huge focus on the gospel and not enough on how to live it. - Feeling like an outsider - for a long time If someone had given me a Young Women's manual alongside the Book of Mormon my transition would have been much less painful.

I have spent Christmas with my husband's ex wife and her mother and children. She has spent Christmas at my family's place. Originally it was all done for the sake of the children, now we are all just good friends. They had broken up well before I came on the scene. My husband thinks it more awkward than anyone else. But that is a mature situation. Nothing to do with missions, etc. I find the scenario you describe, the boyfriend is very insensitive and immature. It is wrong on many levels.

I actually like having huntsman spiders in my house - it usually means there is not much else that hangs around to scare you :) Though they can jump - one jumped at me from the blind I so carelessly closed without warning the spider. I have never heard of someone being bitten by one and they are not deadly,.

I am surprised you bishop didn't support YOU as you hae a very real problem and have asked for help. I have some probably very non-lds comments I could make but wont. Can you convince your husband to see bishop? It is one thing to have the issue whilst still maintaining intimacy with your partner. There is something more horribly wrong when it REPLACES that intimacy. Have you spoken to your husband about your needs and how you feel? Has he noticed how it is affecting you? It sounds like he needs 1:1 counselling and you need counselling together to help work through this.

Maybe no. 6 could be: "Not bringing it to the attention of the salesperson when they have given too much change"

Maybe your wife felt left out and a family activity would have been better? I would get cranky if it was our only family time and my husband chose to spend it alone with one of the kids (especially as the rest was on church). So it would depend on the circumstances. Though I would not call it breaking the Sabbath, jut being thoughtless.

I was exactly like that lady, and sometimes still am. The lessons in church, and mentioned above, about denying others an opportunity to do service were invaluable. I always receive service graciously and I am very appreciative but inside I still feel that they shouldn't be doing it for me! I am trying to change. I now try and teach my 68 year old mother (non member) the same!!! She still mows her lawn even though she has a lot of healthy, willing children and grandchildren around. She broke her arm a few years ago because she fell off a chair cleaning out the garage (after my father died), we found out she was using a sledgehammer to break up old furniture to put out for council pickup in pieces as she couldn't carry it. One day, she got wind of us going over for a surprise working bee, and worked all night to get the lawns and house in order so there would be very little for us to do. She even cooked up a magnificent lunch. Stubborn thing she is! So all you can do with a person like that is continue to be there, and continue to offer help. There will be a day unfortunately where they will have to accept the help, and it will be very hard for them.

Welcome!

I travelled to Italy in my 20's. I am blond hair, blue eyed and very white. An Italian friend in Australia taught me a few words before I left, and of course he delighted in teaching me swearing and insults. Came in handy as I was often swore at by the locals for doing nothing more than walking down the street. Mostly by the older ladies, occasionally by the older men. Often I would be left standing at the counter while Italian looking people were served first. I was always modestly dressed and tried to respect the local customs. Where possible I used basic Italian words and apologised for my lack of them! This is not serious racial prejudice compared to what others endure, but highlights that it does happen. I am married to a Maori and we have never been discriminated against in Australia or New Zealand. As for discrimination for being female - definitely!

I expect to live to 95 - so it is :) Though I don't feel it (rowed a half marathon yesterday), I still look it.

I have a tattoo, I am a middle aged, overweight, mum of 3, and I didn't get it until I was middle-aged! Not you typical person to get them :) It is on my face, in full view - and you wouldn't know it is there :) It is a very vain, cosmetic tattoo. When I started having eye issues, I could no longer apply makeup. I don't know about anywhere else, but in my ward, the women dress beautifully and are always well groomed. Without makeup, I felt that I didn't fit in anymore. I know it wasn't a rational thought process - but it was there! So I had eyeliner tattooed on and I get my lashes tinted regularly. To me it wasn't about graffiti on my skin or defiling my temple (body), so I didn't think it went against church teachings. If it did, then makeup would as well. So maybe an understanding would help you accept them more, maybe not, but I admire you for admitting this is an issue - because now you can work on it.

That sums me up! I grew up attending the closest church - whatever that denomination may have been. I had many experiences of answered prayers and I felt the spirit on many occasions, but it was never strong enough for me to join any particular church as an adult - until I met with the missionaries in my early 30's and I was overwhelmed with the knowledge that this is the true church. I still have things in the church that I do not have a testimony of, and I struggle with those. I was given a very strong answer whilst I was in the temple about something - and it goes against church doctrine. As I have been told that the temple is ground that the devil can't dwell it makes it very hard to ignore! Whilst this is unnerving, I still believe the rest - and I wont throw away all the good over this. Alma 32:26 and onwards is my favourite scripture(s). It is what convinced me to get baptised.

Lightbulb moment - thanks skalenfeh - that has prompted me to remember!

That makes it hard - I can't remember what was in the covenant and what wasn't as it was so long ago. I will talk to Bishop in general, I guess he will stop me if I cross the line. Thanks everyone.

So can you talk to anyone about temple stuff?