Boanerges2

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    Boanerges2 got a reaction from Suzie in Doubt   
    The quote doesn't stand on its own because it's only part of the complete sentence.
     
    Definition of therefore: in consequence of that; as a result; consequently
     
    Pres. Uchtdorf's quote:
     
    Some might ask, “But what about my doubts?”
    It’s natural to have questions—the acorn of honest inquiry has often sprouted and matured into a great oak of understanding. There are few members of the Church who, at one time or another, have not wrestled with serious or sensitive questions. One of the purposes of the Church is to nurture and cultivate the seed of faith—even in the sometimes sandy soil of doubt and uncertainty. Faith is to hope for things which are not seen but which are true.
    Therefore, my dear brothers and sisters—my dear friends—please, first doubt your doubts before you doubt your faith. We must never allow doubt to hold us prisoner and keep us from the divine love, peace, and gifts that come through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ.
     
    The line obviously needs context since it starts with "therefore." We can't have a therefore without something for it to refer to (as a consequence of, as a result). Logic would dictate that since he started a new paragraph with therefore it must be referring to the previous paragraph or perhaps paragraphs. Looking at the prior paragraph (which I so conveniently included), Pres. Uchtdorf points out several things:
    1. It's natural to have questions
    2. Honest inquiry sprouts into mature understanding
    3. Few members have not questioned
    4. A purpose of the church is to cultivate faith (even questioning faith)
    5. Faith is hope for things not seen but true
     
    Therefore my dear brothers and sisters—my dear friends—please, first doubt your doubts before you doubt your faith.
     
    And there you go - context! (I obviously think the word before is important, too.)
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    Boanerges2 got a reaction from Anddenex in Doubt   
    The quote doesn't stand on its own because it's only part of the complete sentence.
     
    Definition of therefore: in consequence of that; as a result; consequently
     
    Pres. Uchtdorf's quote:
     
    Some might ask, “But what about my doubts?”
    It’s natural to have questions—the acorn of honest inquiry has often sprouted and matured into a great oak of understanding. There are few members of the Church who, at one time or another, have not wrestled with serious or sensitive questions. One of the purposes of the Church is to nurture and cultivate the seed of faith—even in the sometimes sandy soil of doubt and uncertainty. Faith is to hope for things which are not seen but which are true.
    Therefore, my dear brothers and sisters—my dear friends—please, first doubt your doubts before you doubt your faith. We must never allow doubt to hold us prisoner and keep us from the divine love, peace, and gifts that come through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ.
     
    The line obviously needs context since it starts with "therefore." We can't have a therefore without something for it to refer to (as a consequence of, as a result). Logic would dictate that since he started a new paragraph with therefore it must be referring to the previous paragraph or perhaps paragraphs. Looking at the prior paragraph (which I so conveniently included), Pres. Uchtdorf points out several things:
    1. It's natural to have questions
    2. Honest inquiry sprouts into mature understanding
    3. Few members have not questioned
    4. A purpose of the church is to cultivate faith (even questioning faith)
    5. Faith is hope for things not seen but true
     
    Therefore my dear brothers and sisters—my dear friends—please, first doubt your doubts before you doubt your faith.
     
    And there you go - context! (I obviously think the word before is important, too.)
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    Boanerges2 reacted to estradling75 in Garden of Eden as an allegory, historicity of Adam   
    I find that the creation accounts are focused on the "Whys"  Why was the earth created, Why is our world the way it is now? Why do we need a Savior? etc.  That is the information we really and truly need
     
    I find that the creation accounts are not focused on the "Hows" much beyond God did it.  I find questions like the OPs to be very much a How question. 
     
    So for me we simply have not been told How God did it, simply that he did, and they we need to have faith that when the time is right we can learn the How
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    Boanerges2 reacted to woundedknee in Garden of Eden as an allegory, historicity of Adam   
    I think that anything in the story could be viewed as symbolic.  I once had a Stake President who told us, in a Bishop's training meeting, that the flaming swords guarding the tree of life were Bishops...relating that to temple recommends.  This man, and he wasn't an idiot by any stretch, could see his way to grab some pieces of the story and use them in his own way to make a point.  I think Paul had done the same, a few times, with other scriptures.  My personal view is that the creation story is literal...but one can use it as it seems wise.  
     
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    Boanerges2 got a reaction from jerome1232 in Garden of Eden as an allegory, historicity of Adam   
    Why does there have to be a literal Adam? Hopefully without saying too much here, certain ceremonies make it clear that Adam and Eve are repesentative of us all (at least in some parts). Things don't need to be "either-or," and most aren't. In the New Testament Jesus taught mostly in parables. He may well have done the same in the Old Testament.
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    Boanerges2 got a reaction from Just_A_Guy in Excellent Deseret News article on Race & the Priesthood essay   
    Deseret News published an excellent article today on the Race and the Priesthood essay released a few months ago by the church. http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865604750/LDS-blacks-scholars-cheer-churchs-essay-on-priesthood.html
     
    I have liked these essays, and appreciate this publicity given by Deseret News. I am often amazed at who doesn't know about these essays and how many don't know about them. I think they're important for us to know about, particularly because they take so much wind out of the sails of the antis.
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    Boanerges2 reacted to Tricia87 in Need Advice for Talking to My Bishop   
    Sounds like for such a small indiscretion, you've already handled the repentance. Time to stop beating yourself up and move on
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    Boanerges2 got a reaction from Traveler in A question to the forum   
    I'm new here, although I did lurk for a while and I don't usually sign in when I come and look. I agree with Pam, but will add that you are not the only one who seems a bit judgemental at times.
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    Boanerges2 got a reaction from Wingnut in Coke and its usage   
    And better yet, Dr. Pepper.
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    Boanerges2 reacted to Palerider in Coke and its usage   
    I don't like Coke........Pepsi is much better