David13

Yup. My son talks about this all the time. One of virtue signals that just ticks the heck out of me is someone saying, "I heard about X on NPR." Who gives a .... where you heard it? You only want to let me know that you're one of the cool elite who listens to NPR, as opposed to whatever country music station, FOX news, Telemundo,  or other useless communications source the rest of us peons get our news from. Academics, from admins to students, preface their comments with this crap all the time (I can't escape since I work on a university campus). 
I just laugh at them (inwardly, of course, because I'm a nice Mormon). 

Oh- and twinkies - developed by space aliens out of space age space polymers to survive nuclear war.
 

Frankly most of the "I only eat organic food and you should too or you're icky"  crowd, along with many of the militant vegans, vegetarians, environmentalists etc are involved in what is known as virtue signaling.  It seems to be particularly prevalent on the left, but conservatives do it too, and though the term is rather modern, the behaivor is not. A biblical example would be the tithe givers who make a show about how much they're giving as was contrasted with the widow and her two mites. 
Make a show of your righteousness by not only abstaining from let's say meat, but make sure that EVERYONE around knows.  Get angry if someone eats meat around you, or doesn't give enough to the right charity, or drives a car that uses too much of the wrong kind of fuel.  It's a form of pride. 
Vegans are kind of the obvious modern example "How do you know if someone at a party is a vegan?  Don't worry they'll tell you."  Perhaps it's unfair, but it illustrates the example nicely. 

Jayfaye, 
I'm not passing judgement.  I've simply been where you and your husband are. I've been there, done that, got the t-shirt to prove it, almost had a wrecked marriage (and now have a pretty decent one) and know how to get out of it. If you don't like the medicine, that's fine; no skin of my back.  I'm just telling you from experience what works and what doesn't work-you can take it, leave it, throw it in the trash.  I don't care. You came here for advice.
Far from passing judgement, I'm telling you, if your husband is not priority #1 above your children, then you are doing it wrong. There are no ifs and or buts, he must take priority over the children.
Now, I caveat that with for the 1st 2 years of a child's life that child takes priority, simply b/c if they don't they die.  As soon as they can walk, somewhat talk, mostly clothe and feed themselves the priority shifts back to your spouse. If that isn't the case, then you are doing it wrong.
Yes, I know about energetic and demanding children; I've got several small ones (more than you and similar ages).  I've got a small child energetic child who intellectually is about 2 years above his age, has skipped a grade, highly intelligent and incredibly energetic, incredibly demanding, etc, etc. etc..  I got news for you unless they are mentally ill, on some sort of medication, or sick, 95% of ALL children are energetic and demanding.  That is just the nature of children.  Children will be as demanding and as an energetic drain on you as you let them!! That is quite simply their nature.  You can toss most "professional" opinions about parenting in the trash-they aren't worth the paper it is printed on.
Yes, everyone's "situation" is different, but proper parenting is a learned skill-set that has several underlying basic foundations.
Do you ever wonder why some moms are extremely calm, collected, their children are well-behaved. And other families have children that run all over the place, mom is frazzled all the time and it looks like helter-skelter?  It ain't the kids.  I guarantee, if you took those "wild, energetic, demanding" children and put them in the calm, collected family, in fairly short order they would be right as rain.
No parent is perfect, but there are underlying guiding principles that will ensure proper raising of adults and save you and your husband's mental health in the process.
There is quite a different between being concerned about your child and thinking about how to best raise them and being exhausted by it. Generally speaking parents get too exhausted by it, by quite frankly being too involved. I provide the framework for my children, the sand-box so to speak, the operating rules within which they operate.  As long as they operate within that box, I do not care what they do. Child: "Dad . . .I'm bored" Me: Son, you've got toys, go figure out something to do, if you're bored, I certainly will figure something for you to do and I guarantee you won't like what I'll have you do (i.e. go pick rocks or weeds, etc.). Honestly, for a 4 year old-it's a piece of cake. You have toys, go downstairs and play-I don't want to see you for several hours, mommy is going to cook, clean, etc.  Or even better, to the 4-year old, I'm going to clean, you will help me-here is a duster, go make yourself useful.
The 2-year can be challenging, simply b/c the 2 year old goes through the terrible twos wherein the proper parenting and discipline for a child is set. But generally more terrible when parents are afraid of their proper authority. Two-year old throws a tantrum.  Son, stop now or you will go to your room.  Son doesn't stop. Son-go to your room. Nothing. Then me:, pick up child (by the heels upside down if necessary, carry child literally kicking and screaming), put child in room on the opposite side of house with a baby-gate.  Scream all you want in here, outside, no screaming. Child screams for hours on end-I don't care, I've got several doors between me and the child, I don't say another word to the kid, I don't go back and "check" to make sure they are all right, I don't sing a lulliby, or bend down to the floor look I to eye with the child and say "honey please stop screaming". No,when the child stops screaming, I go to the room and let him out.  Rise, lather, repeat.  Eventually, child learns when I say go to room, child goes to room. Child then very, very quickly learns . . . oh I hate being in my room, if I shut-up, I get out. The hour long screaming goes to 30 min. then to 10 min. then to 5. Then to I give the Child my "look" that will freeze Hell over, and they shut-up real quick. I do not get emotionally involved in their drama or in their disobedience.  They are the one who disobeyed, not me-so I ain't gonna feel the least bit of emotional pain when they disobey. They will!!
When you get to the point that a look will shape them up, it isn't exhausting.  I find with my children, when I am not the proper Authority, when I don't act like a Superior Being to them, that is when it becomes exhausting.  Parenting is exhausting when children don't do what they are told to do . . .the endless battles, the endless saga of the same problem over and over and over. "I just want you to stop screaming" To the 4-year old, "Honey, this why we put our toys away because we want to have a clean house, so honey can you please put your toys away"  Oh my goodness, been there, done it, make me gag now at this point.  Now, it is quite simply in a firm voice. "Son, put the toys away now", but dad why? "Because I said so", but why? "Because I'm the dad, you're the child, get busy" and walk away. Child doesn't do it, "Son, you didn't clean your room", write 25 sentances "I will clean my room", or "Oh that's too bad, you're not going Joe's birthday party". Weeping and wailing ensure, me I don't care.  I'll go in the other room and laugh about it. My wife and I are talking, child interrupts, I give the child a look, "son you are interrupting, grown-ups are talking wait".
I do not let my children come between my wife and I.  She is priority #1 and I am priority #1 in her life (okay besides God).
I take raising my children, extremely seriously, nothing besides my wife and God is more important in the world.  I do not take them seriously.
And far from me being a heartless, cold Father, I can't tell you the number of times they come and give me hugs, kisses, Daddy you're the best dad ever, etc. etc. etc.  It's awesome!!
I have been where your husband is. I did not want more children at that time, because it was exhausting, draining, everything was out of wack. We couldn't manage the kids we had, they were draining, demanding, my needs as a husband weren't being paid attention to, I wasn't being a good husband, nothing was in its proper place. So no, I made a decision not to have more children at that time, I didn't want anymore b/c I felt we couldn't handle anymore. To my everlasting regret, I made that decision; now I am simply thankful for the ones God gave me.  Today, I know how to parent, my wife knows how to parent and it's not just a "well I think this is the best way", it's more about attitude then anything else.  I'm not perfect, but I know the underlying principles that will lead to success. I've lived through the absolute chaos and personal hell of not proper-parenting and I've seen the peace, calm, serenity of proper parenting.  And it makes a world of difference; I do have small children who are your kids age.
 

I certainly agree with you about that.  We have today adults who cannot be adults, nor leaders nor teachers.  And so the children are raised to be selfish monsters.  Very common here in the Los Angeles area.
Again, the traditional way is the best way to go, where the children are children and the adults are adults.
dc

I certainly agree with you about that.  We have today adults who cannot be adults, nor leaders nor teachers.  And so the children are raised to be selfish monsters.  Very common here in the Los Angeles area.
Again, the traditional way is the best way to go, where the children are children and the adults are adults.
dc

My idea of 'being nice' is to give the best (for the op) advice possible, which is what I did.
End the relationship now, as that is the best thing for you, Coll79.
I guess some others here think being nice means encouraging someone to do that which is not right (for them).
I disagree.
dc

It's because you're doing it wrong. Being a parent is actually quite easy and natural, but due to modern parenting dogma it has become a drain.  I completely understand where he is coming from. I'm not going to presume how you are parenting but I will ask some questions.
1) In your life who are you most dedicated to? In your husband's life who is he most dedicated to?
2) What is your role as wife? What is his role as husband?
3) Do you work outside the home?
Modern parenting dogma, has children as the center of the family.  Everything must be for them, mother and father must always be constantly doing things for them.  The "good mommy" and "good daddy" are always playing with their children, watching t.v. programs with them, entertaining them. Their sole purpose in life is to be 110% engaged in the lives of their children.  No personal sacrifice is too great for the "good mommy/daddy". When the father/mother who is extremely exhausted from work/stress/life, is home and the Child asks them to play, shame on them if they say, "I'm exhausted, go play by yourself downstairs". Whatever the child asks for, the child must get, most important is attention-no boundaries of space exist between parent/child, the Child must have unrestrained access to the parent at all times and all places. No place in the house is off-limits to the child, the parent's bedroom, the office, etc. When a child questions a parent's actions, the parent must give a reason, the child deserves to know why things are the way they are.
If any of the above is in some way what you are doing, you are doing it wrong!!!
Let me give you a hint, your job and his job as a parent isn't to explain why or reason with a child, a child is an inferior being.  Your job is to train them to be adults, not to explain. You don't train a dog by talking to the dog-you train by action. Of course you can't reason with a 4 year-old, you never will be able to. Here's a hint, if you don't teach strict obedience to a 4 year-old, you will never be able to explain and reason to a 16 year-old.
Learn the 4 magical words of parenting.  "Because I said so". Live it, love it!!! Learn to be an authority figure, love being an authority figure in your child's life.
There is absolutely nothing better in this world than raising an adult.  I love it-training the next generation is awesome-it is my legacy to leave this world a better place through my children.  My greatest desire and regret in this world has been and always will be that I didn't have more children.
Proper parenting is not exhausting in the least bit, it is exhilarating!!

And we are confirmed or reaffirmed in our own faith in the Temple.  The Temple is the great symbol of our membership in the church and a great symbol of our faith.
It also affirms that we are living righteously.  It should be a goal for all members, and members should teach and prepare their children for the Temple. 
There is a certain glorious aspect to attending the Temple that brings spirituality to anyone who attends.
dc

In a thread defining faith – I gave the opinion that faith in false principles is nothing more than superstition.  I have a similar opinion about patriotism – that is patriotism without true principles of and devotion to the True and Living G-d is nothing more than an excuse for tyranny and treachery.  
 
The Traveler

Well, I can't recall too many leaders, not Christ, not Peter, not Thomas S. Monson,who are all that "warm and supportive" of breaking one of the Ten Commandments. If you know of any, please let me know.
Indeed, she, herself says:
… so it isn't a surprise that this is wrong.
Lehi

There is some additional risk with this.  The spirit world is not there to give anybody a second chance.  Those who did not get a chance to accept the gospel here can accept it there, but if somebody gets that chance here and has no desire to accept it all their life they are going to feel the same way there.  I rather think that if a person is married to a faithful Mormon for decades and has no desire join the church, that when they die that is probably the end of their chance.
Second, when a husband and wife are sealed in the temple one of the blessings to their children from that (if they keep their covenants) is that if their children stray from the path they have the promise that the Lord will (in his time) bring them back.  I've seen this happen in my family and I know it is true.  Taking this 'I'll get sealed after I'm dead' option deprives your children of that blessing which these days is more important than ever.
Third, there was one woman my wife knew who had a non-member husband and after many years being married he passed away.  His wife refused to be sealed to him and later on married and was sealed to righteous priesthood holder instead.  The sealing ceremony give a conditional promise of being together forever.  You both still have to have lived a life worthy of celestial glory, and both have to still want to be together come judgement day.  After decades of refusing the gospel and the effect that can have on a relationship it is far from a sure thing you'll be together forever taking this option.

Hi MD,
This might sound harsh, but it sounds like she understands the importance of a temple marriage and having the priesthood in the home, and I support her decision.  For a woman to marry outside the faith puts her and her future children at risk of missing out on some very important blessing that they can't get some other way.
In some cases it does work out.  My daughter married a non-member who was a great guy.  When their daughter was blessed at church (something he could not do since he was not a priesthood holder) he felt something that caused him to take a serious look at the church, and a couple of months later he came to know the church was true and he joined.  He was just ordained an Elder and they will be going to the temple soon to be sealed and we are all very happy for them.  This tends to be the exception, not the rule.  It is very common for a woman who marries a man outside to church to talk herself into it by convincing her self that this man will change and join the church etc. etc. then it doesn't happen and she is hurt and disappointed and feels cheated out of something that was dear to her.  You don't want a marriage like that.
She has to go with what God tells her to do, same as you have to go with God says to you.  When God tells you both the same thing then you can act on that together but that is not the case right now.  At the same time, what each of you feel God is telling you is not mutually exclusive.  She feels that God is telling her to marry a priesthood holder in the temple, You feel God wants you to fight for her, so fight for her, but not by trying to convince her turn her back on what God has told her.  Fight to become that kind of person God wants her to be with.
You can become that priesthood holder who can take her to the temple, but you have to do it the right way.  If you choose to take the missionary lessons and read the Book of Mormon and join the church you MUST do it for the right reasons.  Not as some kind of tactic to get her to marry you, but because you know it is true so deeply that even if she went off and married some other guy that you would still stay a faithful Mormon.
When I was on my mission, there was some non-member guy who wanted to take my girlfriend (who is now my wife) away from me.  She would not compromise on the issue of getting married in the temple and he knew that.  He joined the church in the hopes that this would help him win her over.  She was very happy to see him join and considered his conversion real, but it also put her in an awkward position where she felt it hard to be honest with him about the fact that she didn't quite feel the same about him as he felt about her.  She didn't want to hurt him and drive him out of the church.  That's how it turned out anyway.  He faked going halfway to what she wanted but it didn't get her to come halfway to meet him and he became extremely bitter toward her and the church over it.  They could have been friends but he ruined it with what he did.  She felt guilty about that for a long time even though it wasn't her fault.
He didn't love her, he wanted her, and there is a big different.  If he actually loved her he would have backed off, recognizing that he was not the king of guy she was looking for, didn't want to become that kind of guy, and respecting that she already found that kind of guy.  Or he could have sincerely become the kind of guy she was looking for.  Instead he lied to her and manipulated her because all he cared about was getting what he wanted, not her happiness.  He is the one and only person in the world I would love to punch in the face if I ever met him.  Don't be that guy. 
Accept that she is going to put God and the church before you, not just now but always, and the man she wants is a man who will put God and the church (and by that I mean specifically The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints) before her.  That doesn't sound nice, but the truth is that when a couple put God and the church first their ability to love each other grows to the point where they love each other better and deeper than if they put each other first.
Take some discussions with the missionaries about it and see where it goes, but be honest and don't join for the wrong reasons.  Don't lead her on into thinking the church means more to you than it really does. If the idea of living a Mormon lifestyle, including paying tithing, giving up coffee, alcohol, tea, tobacco, any abuse of drugs, no sexual relations of any kind outside of marriage, going to church every Sunday (3 hrs, more if you have certain callings in the church), serving in the church, living up to temple covenants, missionary work etc. etc. etc. turns you off, then she is not the girl for you and the best thing you can do for her long term happiness is to walk away.  And if you actually do love her, you'll do what is right for her happiness even if it mean heartache for you.
 

Even if you don't have another child ever again... "you have 2 children you adore". Count the blessings you "have" and don't let yourself focus so sharply right now on what you think you don't "also" have. My brother and sister-in-law have zero children and several miscarriages to show for their years of marriage. Probably would do back flips for years if they could have but just one child. 

The pattern I see is I guess the bizarro world.  The bizarro world grows and develops and encompasses all things.
Right becomes wrong, and wrong becomes right until everything is turned around, backward. 
And ultimately, Satan reigns.
dc

We're at a point where people are starting to ask us if we plan to have more kids. (We have two). I'd be happy to have more, and I think my husband would also like more. However, we also want to be in a different work day situation than we are in, as this is a huge obstacle for my husband. We both work full-time, different shifts, so my husband does a big share of the minute-to-minute childraising. And it's very hard on him. Myself and many others think he's a great dad (I often prefer him to be the disciplinarian as I think his temper fuse is better handled to small kids) but it's not really for him. He has stated before that he just couldn't handle another kid going the way we are going now. This isn't to say he hates the way things are going and doesn't love his time with the girls, just that he can't take a third kid. Our decision is that when we get to a point where I'm at home full-time.
His reasoning for no more kids at this time: He just can't do it. And I get it. (It's another reason why more traditional homes are easier that way).
So, what specifically is bothering your husband more than just feeling relieved? I don't think this should become a point of contention, but it could be part of the discussion.

I cannot relate at all to your husband's position: I always wanted a large, nay, a very large family. Twelve children would not have been too many for me. (I did, long before I met my Jacquie, decide that she would be the one who chose how many children we'd have — I reserved the right to influence her choice.)
She wanted five, I twelve or more. We have seven. But we did it "right": we had the oldest ones first. That is, when they grow a bit, they actually help work with their younger siblings. Two children are actually the hardest, but with three, they play with each other, and they sorta kinda band together against the outside world. Even today, our children are their own best friends, some twenty-five or thirty years later. Even those who live away from the others (one in Idaho, one in Texas, and one in Arizona) still have stronger-than-average feelings towards their brothers and sisters.
There is no way to force your husband to want more children. But I know that I'd be terribly sad and empty without those last two or three children.
In the past five decades, we have learned how to separate sex from marriage and marriage from children. That's depressing. People have lost the ability to love children just 'cuz they exist. Every child, the adage goes, brings his own loaf. I say that each child brings his own heart.
Raising children is hard work. It is fraught with heartache and problems of every kind. It is tiring, it is frustrating. But the compensations of love and joy and mutual support overweigh the obstacles and issues. I'm in my late 60s. Our sons call me about things around their houses that need fixin'. They ask about politics, religion, and economics. They tell me that they respect my knowledge and opinions beyond the world's 'wisest" and it just plain vindicates all the nights with fevers and vomiting. Our daughters call about recipes (sometimes even mine), and Sacrament meeting talks. They want to know how to tell if a child has an earache or toothache and what to do about it. We are grateful to have the experience to share, but even more that they trust us to know.
The short term is always harder than reality because the rough seas are immediate and drowning a harsh possibility. But beyond the horizon, the sea is calm and the harbor peaceful, the beach inviting and the palms cool by their shade.
Sorry that nothing I say will "work" on your husband. He's his own agent. If he changes his mind, it will be he who does so. But my experience is that children are the true joy of life, and those who have few will have less joy in the long run than those with more.
The lost needle, above, probably is closer to the reason than anything I'd imagine. But that's something you can judge better than we. There is only One Who can work on his mind. Ask Him to help. Use all your spiritual power to that end.
Lehi

I can't get any more spiritual than that.
I'm a man and I have no kids.
It's unfortunate that you are in this situation.
I think finding his reasons and then trying to compromise is the best course.  Maybe settle on 3.
As a child we were 3, one brother and one sister.  But we did, i think, miss a lot or group fun or whatever it was that we saw the big group families doing. 
I think your husband might think of the kids.  Only two results in a somewhat lonely childhood.  4 or more certainly will give them a lot more close relations which will, if in a good loving home, benefit them.
dc

Hi Jayfaye-
I think I will post my personal experience, and then include an additional post with some church guidance on the subject.  I am a man, so I'm on the opposite side of the coin. I don't know you or your husband, so my experience is personal and may have zero similarities to your situation. First, let me say that I'm sorry that you and your husband are experiencing a "difference" of opinion. For the moment it may feel like he sees black and you see white. That is not to say that at some future point you "both" can't see grey together. Is it him that needs to change or is it you? In reality it most likely is "both" of you that need to change some version of your views. Let me explain. 
I have felt this way before: "He doesn't feel capable of having more .... He cringes at the thought of more babies."
I grew up in a family of 6 children. I spent my life playing/doing stereotypical guy things: GIJoe, guns, snakes, forts, climbing trees, skateboards, etc. My 3 sisters in contrast spent a lot of time: playing house, Cabbage Patch kids, babysitting, playing dress up, Barbie, etc. I hate to admit it but I wasn't really groomed for my own kids in the future. My sisters on the other hand had "I have always, always wanted more than two." In contrast my sisters were groomed  more towards having children. 
Fast forward to me being married. Sure my wife and I in our young naive years talked in passing about "how many children do you want?". We both said around 5-6. What did we know, we never raised kids before? It was an easy answer at the time. 
After our 2nd child, I felt much like your husband, but the question is "why" did I feel like your husband. Do you know why your husband feels "incapable"? Do you know why he "cringes"? Do you know why he "does not enjoy small children"? Since I can't speak for your husband, let me share with you "why" I felt these ways:
1. TIRED: I was tired. I was tired all the time. Tired, tired and more tired again. I worked full time and "felt" like I came home only to relieve my tired wife so she could rest, but I never felt like I was getting rest. We don't do our best work as humans when we are tired. We can be quick to anger, quick to judge and often times become hostile towards whatever it is that is making us tired... in this case it was "small children". 
2. SELFISH: It "seemed" to me that I had lost my free time. All efforts were diverted to raising the kids: diapers, bath time, feeding, Dr. appt, missed classes at church, etc. Where was some time for "me"? I felt like I had lost it and again looked to blame the source of my perceived problem.
3. JEALOUS: I was no longer the attention of my wife. My wife's attention "felt" like it had all shifted to the babies, BUT what about me?? Our discussions were always about the "kids", but what about "us" and our marriage? Our date nights evaporated. Our sex life seemed spotty at best, we were both tired and she didn't feel sexy and not in the mood. My eternal companion felt like she had abandoned ship and went off with the kids. I felt only like a "bread winner" and not much more. She was off at play groups (support groups) for other young mothers... who did I have? Again, who was to blame for my marriage feeling distant?  Of course it was those small kids again, so I "thought".
4. DEPRESSION: being tired, selfish and jealous can only go on for so long before some version of "life kind of sucks" creeps in. 
So...
Did I want more kids? Um...Nope. My naive notion of 5-6 kids evaporated quickly. I wanted sleep, free time and my wife back more THAN I wanted yet another kid. The thought of more babies only = more tired, less free time, and less of a wife. 
Because you and your husband see black and white on this, you may need to step in and figure out the art of compromise. He wants 2, you want 4... perhaps you end up with 3 instead. My wife and I have 4 children, not 5-6, AND that is fine. Perhaps we might adopt in the future, but for now 4 is where we are at. I wish I could report that my wife and I really, truly discussed this in-depth during the time of 4 babies, but we didn't. It was only after the fact did we really come to terms on how to communicate clearly and identify root causes. You are in a unique position that you are seeking help "now". I would suggest speaking with your husband and getting to the very-very bottom of why he has made the choice that has. Don't settle for a surface answer, but dig until you clearly understand why. You may not like what he has to share, but at least you will really understand. In addition, once others have posted...invite your husband to read this thread with you. We are a neutral third party, and as such this thread my act as the catalyst to spark a more in-depth, less confrontation discussion. 
Next post will contain a more spiritual response vs. my imperfect human example. 

When you are young and in love, you think everything will be alright "love conquers all", except the harsh reality is that it doesn't (at least the infatuation/puppy-dog/can't stand to be without them type of love).
As time goes on and we get older our understanding of faith and our religion changes. If one is faithful, that meaning becomes deeper, more firm like the growing of a tiny oak into a majestic oak.  The core root of LDS belief is the purpose of life, which is that we were sent here to gain bodies, experience life and to become like our Heavenly Father. That becoming involves finding a spouse with which to spend eternity. Therefore the desire for the non-LDS spouse to become LDS will grow over time.
Consequently, as a marriage grows and time goes on, love takes  a completely different meaning. Marriages that last generally end up with the Husband and Wife becoming more and more alike, in thought and deed (and even in looks to an extent).  While it does happen, it is not typical that a happy marriage of 40+ years involves two people who are worlds apart in thought and deed. And this is normal- we are commanded to become One in a marriage.
Therefore, people from two different faiths entering into a marriage will eventually (long term) either grow together and adopt the same religious beliefs together, or grow apart and split. Men and women are already different enough! The more similar their backgrounds, socio-economic status, religious believes, political believes, the better chances they have at having a successful marriage. 

Any food storage you have should be consumed regularly.  And then storage replenished.
So you know how (and that you can) prepare it, so that you know you can stomach it and eat it, so you know how you function when you do consume it, and ... so it doesn't get too old to use.
dc

I think there is at least a grain of truth, and much for you to consider, in this short anecdote given by Elder Hales in his General Conference address last April on the Holy Ghost
As we receive the inspiration of the Holy Ghost for ourselves, it is wise to remember that we cannot receive revelation for others. I know of a young man who told a young woman, “I’ve had a dream that you are to be my wife.” The young woman pondered that statement and then responded, “When I have the same dream, I’ll come and talk to you.”
https://www.lds.org/general-conference/2016/04/the-holy-ghost?lang=eng
 
 

I can't understand why someone would think someone of a different faith is "the one".
Particularly different being LDS.
There is just so much to it.
It isn't like the Catholic Church, where you go to church on Sunday for one hour and that's it.
It is a full time deal.
I would like to remarry.  And the first qualification I look for is ... faithful LDS in good standing with recommend.
There is far more than enough difference, me being male, and she being female (2nd qualification) to give us all the "diversity" we might ever need.
All kinds of "mixed" marriages MIGHT work, and probably some do.  But I do believe it's less than half that do.  The general divorce rate is very high where they are not mixed.  Why lessen the odds?
I think you are barking up the wrong tree, and just don't know it.
Jane Doe and yjacket have set it out rather explicitly.
dc

What an excellent and easy to understand link.  But it goes beyond truth, it includes the idea that those special ones reading are indeed thinking "but I really am special!"
It may have a deeper infiltration into the LDS world, as I hear the word "Awesome!" far too much from a lot of the young ones.
(Awesome, another word for 'special')
dc
I'm no mind reader, but I can't help but think you are thinking of coming back into the church.
dc

Plants are like people in some ways...  The stronger, healthier, more vigorous they are the more physical stress they can handle (both plants and people)... But they can still be killed if the physical demands are to much (again both plants and people)
 
Exactly what I meant...  Good ideas bloated into fear mongering money grabs... (without doing the good part of the good idea)