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Hi all, as a lot of you know my very Catholic husband has agreed to read the Book of Mormon! He ordered one and it arrived the other day (its super pretty). He said if Joseph Smith was a prophet and the Book of Mormon is scripture then he will read the text that he dictated. I didn't really understand what he meant. Now that the 1830 edition of the Book of Mormon is here I understand. It is very different, the text is places is very different. The Book of Mormon used by the LDS Church today is not the same Book of Mormon Joseph Smith translated - and its not just spelling and grammar differences, I'm talking doctrinal differences in the text. So my question is, if the Book of Mormon is the most correct book ever written by Joseph Smith a true prophet of God then why isn't the original text that Joseph Smith dictated used by the LDS Church?
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You could choose a couple of things you want to do and alternate them, I exercise first thing in the morning and I love it, its a great way to start the day, maybe exercise 3 times a week and pick another activity for the other 2 days. Whatever you choose make sure you enjoy it
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Must be just your state, I'm in QLD and they are everywhere. They are terrible for you, hopefully QLD follows your states example. @Nick0123 I hope she at least wears 50+ while in the tanning bed? Maybe she could start wearing it in the tanning bed for you? Might be the best compromise for now. It's a terrible example for any children you might have. I don't think you are overreacting, hopefully she gives it up, or at least trades it in for spray tanning - maybe you could buy her a spray tanning set up as a present?
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So everyone can be part of that trinity, assuming they make it? Is that right?
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I understand the Kingdom of God just fine, and I firmly believe there is only one God (not infinite Gods as this thread is discussing) I also understand that the LDS church claims to be 'the only true and living church on the face of the earth', therefore, if this claim is true, then it would be speaking on earth for God, and if it is not true, then it does not speak for God. That is the claim I am investigating, that was the entire reason I looked at the LDS faith in the first place.
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I agree with this, it says 20 Peter, turning around, *saw the disciple whom Jesus loved following them; the one who also had leaned back on His bosom at the supper and said, “Lord, who is the one who betrays You?” 21 So Peter seeing him *said to Jesus, “Lord, and what about this man?” 22 Jesus *said to him, “If I want him to remain until I come, what is that to you? You follow Me!” 23 Therefore this saying went out among the brethren that that disciple would not die; yet Jesus did not say to him that he would not die, but only, “If I want him to remain until I come, what is that to you?” The way I read it, it clearly says Jesus did not say to him that he would not die, this passage is highlighting the fact that they misunderstood what Jesus meant and went around saying things that Jesus had not said. I don't understand how that is supposed to support the theory that John didn't die?
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Actually an investigator IS being asked to trust the LDS church, we are being asked to trust that the LDS church does in fact speak for God and that its claim to be the only true church on the face of the earth is in fact true. All Churches believe in God and want you to trust him. That is not the issue to an investigator. The issue is 'Is this the only true Church that speaks for God'
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No I mean more like, the Apostle John never died and still roams the earth, that sort of thing is not taught by missionaries and could be a deal breaker for a lot of people, I believe they should know this sort of thing before joining, and I don't want any surprises after changing my faith. I will continue to study but it would be very helpful if there was a definite list of official doctrine and beliefs. I will read the D&C, I guess that would be the right place to start? And I can't think of a Christian Church that doesn't teach God loves you and Jesus Christ is our saviour, that is defiantly not the issue I'm talking about at all.
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At least RCIA goes for almost year and not just a few weeks, and then there is catechism school on top of that as well if you wish to go.
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I think this is a very valid point, being able to trust the LDS church, which would be a lot easier if there was a more detailed study structure for new people with all LDS beliefs included in it, not just the basic missionary lessons.
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I do not think this is an ideal way to change ones life and enter a religion, it almost feels to me like the LDS church is hiding its beliefs from new prospective members. I think it's important to know exactly what it is you will be expected to believe in before you dedicate your life to believing it. It just sounds ridiculous to me. And I have been baptised and have the gift of the Holy Ghost, I also have an intellect and the thought of agreeing to something before you even know what it is - well that's not sounding very intelligent. What if you find out something in 3 years time that you can't possibly live with? If someone wanted to convert to my faith, they have to attend classes and study for a year to make sure they know what they are getting into and what is expected of them - nothing is hidden or saved for a later date when you have more faith or have received certain sacraments.
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I have to say I agree with this. I have not studied nearly as much as you have, but it seems the more questions I have, the more I don't get a direct answer that can be backed up either by scripture or by official doctrine. It's confusing, and not something I am used to or comfortable with.
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But praying to the God in Jesus' name is not the same thing as praying to Jesus as the OT prophets did. And if it was good enough for the prophets of the Old Testament then why not in today's time?
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So mormons do pray to Jesus then? I thought they didn't. But if LDS believe Jesus is Jehovah of the OT, the prophets of the OT prayed to Jehovah, which means they prayed to Jesus.
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Has anyone got any links for LDS teaching on Jesus is Jehovah? I'd really appreciate it @anatess2 @Jane_Doe
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Off topic so I apologise but you can please explain what you mean when you say Jesus Christ is Jehovah? I'm fairly new to this so forgive me if this is something well known in the LDS community.
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This is from the LDS.org talking about this very subject, 'The Importance of Celestial Marriage' its a long talk and I'm pouring over it but it says https://www.lds.org/ensign/1979/10/the-importance-of-celestial-marriage?lang=eng We may be angels, if we are righteous enough. Even unmarried, we may reach the celestial kingdom, but we will be ministering angels only. So I guess I'll be a servant in the Celestial Kingdom at best - at least I'll be there, that's what matters right?