Emmanuel Goldstein

I don't think there is anything to forgive her for. She did not do anything wrong if she did not know what the smudge was or the student did not clearly tell her what it was for. "It is for the start of Easter" is not the same as saying "it is a holy symbol of my religion."

https://www.standard.net/news/education/bountiful-teacher-apologizes-for-ash-wednesday-incident/article_c90e54fe-36a3-59cb-ae1e-fee379d39be8.html

The saying is actually, "Eating their cake and having it too." Just a little aside.

Let's eat Grandma. Let's eat, Grandma.

I can see how my comment can come across that way, but that was not the intent.

Sigh, I DON’T FREAKING CARE!

No, I am portraying how it is being perceived by the media and the social media minions. My irritation stems from people demanding that I provide proof other than my word that I read what I read. Nothing more. I have no vested interest in the story other than to point out how easy it is to demonize one teacher when she really did nothing wrong. Perhaps my way of saying it came across wrong and I apologize if it offended you. I was trying to be ironic, it looks like I failed.

I just don't think it is necessary and frankly I do not have the time to go searching for the story I read on a subject that is as insignificant as this.

I fail to see how it is my responsibility to prove what I read just because the link does not exist any longer or I cannot find it any more. This was simply some Uber-Catholic grandmother overreacting to get attention as a "suppressed minority" in evil Mormon Utah, nothing more. I don't see why it is even still being reported. The Teacher, who has devoted years to teaching kids, something that some parents won't even do, will now lose her job because she made a kid wash off his face because she thought he was dirty. Put yourself in her place. It would be like a teacher having a Muslim kid get stitches because he was bleeding after having his head cut as part of Ashura. This is truly a tempest in a teapot and I believe the teacher, not the poor victims family. I am sure they will have a film made before you know it.

https://www.standard.net/news/education/bountiful-teacher-apologizes-for-ash-wednesday-incident/article_c90e54fe-36a3-59cb-ae1e-fee379d39be8.html https://video.foxnews.com/v/6012992760001/#sp=show-clips I guess it comes down to whether we believe the teacher or the boy's grandmother, as she seems to be the one behind the media push against the teacher. I tend to trust people that are not allowing an agenda to be more important than the truth.

I will see if I can find it again, it has been a few weeks now.

No, the kid has now said she told him to wipe it off and he did. She them asked what it was and he explained what it was. She then asked if there was a way to reapply it. The media and family messed up the timeline of events and this led to social media branding her as Satan incarnate. It was just honest ignorance. I did not know about the ashes on the forehead until I was 40 years old, so I can see how this is an honest mistake.

https://whatscookingamerica.net/Q-A/AlcoholEvap.htm

Yeah, I told them not to expect me to eat any of it.

https://whatscookingamerica.net/Q-A/AlcoholEvap.htm

One of my kids thinks that is alright to put coffee in baked items. I feel it is against the word of wisdom, but my wife thinks it is ok. I have spent my entire 47 years avoiding coffee, tea and alcohol. Any thoughts?

Local news finally did some actual journalism.

Now we find out that the kid and especially his grandmother conflated the issue. The teacher had him clean it off before the kid told her what it was. She did nothing wrong, but as is usual the media and so called victims ignored the truth and blew it out of proportion.

I would not be surprised to find out that the Lord does not want it shared because it could affect our ability to use our agency.

Bednar is one of the best men I have ever met. I got to attend one of his final "Teachings of the Living Prophets" class at BYU-Idaho before his call to the apostleship. Nothing more eye opening than having him grade my paper on the fall of adam and eve. He basically said, "Go back, and try to get it right this time." I did end up with a B in the class, so I guess he kind of liked it. lol

Did you know that the original saying was "They want to eat their cake and have it too." Makes more sense in a way.

I highly doubt that faithful members would treat such things lightly. Could it be because they do not have physical manifestations, but it is all through confirmation by the Holy Ghost?

Why don't Apostles share stories about divine visitations the way Joseph and others did in the early days?

I think sin can lead to risky behavior such as drinking, so I would say the the answer is a resounding and emphatic, maybe?

Uchtdorf and Bednar would survive. Besides, Rome has very good security services with the Vatican there.