ephedra

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    ephedra reacted to unixknight in Same-Sex Issues   
    Correct.  
    Doesn't mean you don't address it.
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    ephedra reacted to pwrfrk in Same-Sex Issues   
    So, this is what you guys do while you're at work.  Hmmm.
    Oh, I remember when I was in my 20's, was dating this young woman, also LDS, and I was at the time active and had been paying tithing & fast offering and Missionary Fund and (blah blah blah), and I got in trouble for kissing her.  Nothing long, not french, not anything, just a simple kiss.  Couldn't take sacrament or give prayer at church for 6 months.  I went inactive instead.
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    ephedra got a reaction from MrShorty in Same-Sex Issues   
    I am not too sure there are any rules against this. It is said we are to obey the law of chastity. Is kissing violating that? Probably not. I have never heard of a straight up kiss requiring a confession to the bishop. As for the same sex/ gay thing. Probably the same rule applies. Have not heard any different. As soon as you leave first base as in hetero relationships then I guess confession is in order. Go ask. You may have a whole new problem on your hands esp if your parents don't know so there's that too. I imagine most bishops will tell your parents if you are a minor.
    You may want to approach your parents first if you are a minor. Growing up in a home with bishop and on up level priesthood, I can tell you my father grew rather tired of people lined up to confess stuff that didn't need to. It is an education issue. Im thinking no need but others may think yes go see him bases on the same sex aspect. No one really went there.
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    ephedra got a reaction from Anddenex in Name of the Church   
    if you are going to respond, quit whining
     
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    ephedra reacted to JohnsonJones in Top 6 Greatest LDS Athletes   
    I'm not sure if this is what Ephedra means, but I think what some may mean when they say Dunn did worse than some local bishop, even if the Bishop's crime was worse, was in the way it portrays the organization.
    An example would be in the US if a Chief of Police ran a prostitution ring, while at the same time using his position as Chief of Police (or similar position where he could do so) to get rid of other prostitution rings that were competitors.  That is bad.  It is REALLY bad.
    However, from an international viewpoint, it will probably have little impact.  On the otherhand, If you have a junior Congresswoman say that we should let any and every individual who wants to come into the US and give them welfare, full medical coverage (which not even US citizens get) and be able to carry concealed weapons, a LOT more news agencies are going to notice.  She has not done a crime, but she makes a bigger impact simply because of her position vs. the other individual.
    The individual who is lower on the totem pole obviously did a much worse crime, but the Congresswoman is the one that can cause far more damage to international relations than the smaller ranked individual.
    In that way, it could be seen that though the Bishop obviously participated in a much worse and terrible crime, his impact on how others see the church is probably going to be less than a General Authority who some feel told some tall tales and was 'retired early' due to that and perhaps some other difficulties.
     
    PS: Wasn't this thread supposed to be about the Greatest LDS Athletes?  I think that was a far more entertaining subject.
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    ephedra reacted to MarginOfError in Paying Tithing As A Married Couple   
    I'm actually going to defend this statement.  During tithing settlement, if a member declares they are a full tithe payer, the bishop, technically, is supposed to record their response.  In other words, the bishop isn't supposed to challenge that declaration*.
    This doesn't hold true at temple recommend interview time.  At that point, I will agree that the bishop should not be challenging the exact declaration of tithing status, but the heart an motivations of the member paying the tithing.  If the member has come up with some formula to minimize their tithes paid for selfish reasons, then it is pretty clear that they aren't even living the Law of Tithing, which is a lesser form of the Law of Consecration. The bishop has every right to refuse the temple recommend for that cause.  If the member feels the bishop is overstepping their bounds or acting unfairly, an appeal to the stake president is allowed.
     
    * Normally...but he can
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    ephedra reacted to Suzie in Top 6 Greatest LDS Athletes   
    Paul Dunn didn't exaggerate his stories, he lied about them. He was also involved in quite a few fraudulent business activities. His actions are inexcusable. Having said that, as a sister in Christ I feel bad for him, his family and for all the people that were hurt. it's really tragic.
    General Authorities are human and as such, we should also try our best to extend our compassion. Not because he was a GA but because he was our brother.