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Thank you for a great post - I will forever be greatful for the Bishop that spent nearly an hour with me doing a TR interview, he went through each question and asked about MY understanding of it, when I hesitated over the are you worthy to enter the Temple he sent me away to pray about it and not to come back until I knew and had a strong testimony of YES I AM WORTHY, knowing I can hold my head up high when I answer that question makes a huge difference to me when I enter the temple
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I held a limited use recommend every year - your personal worthiness is as important to perform baptism by proxy as it is to do any other work. Don't cheapen the Temple by thinking anything else if you are worthy to enter the Temple and can answer that question with a resounding yes and head held high the standards of worthiness are no less. I am certainly teaching my children not to defile to the Temple - I was shocked when i went the number of Youth that did not value their recommend as it was not the real thing - but it is.
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Would you, could you? Multiple wives and husbands.....
Elgama replied to theoriginalavatar's topic in LDS Gospel Discussion
I agree I think multiple households would make it more difficult and also for me would feel more like he was having an affair than we were building a family bit different in the 1800s I do think the way it was done will have to change, but I still kinda like the idea. It doesn't shock me as long as it involves adults all of whom are fine with the idea. Also like the idea of having King Size bed to myself every other night lol -
Ask the EQ president who your HT's are and go round and visit em with a plate of cookies. I find reverse VT and HT is best way to get people motivated, make friends with them and help it be less scary. After all the purpose of HT is to strengthen the body of the church by making us closer as Sisters and Brothers, if my real brother hadn't managed to come round and see me, I'd find away to help him or go round there
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Would you, could you? Multiple wives and husbands.....
Elgama replied to theoriginalavatar's topic in LDS Gospel Discussion
I'm not that old lol - 33, think in someways it would have been ideal for us, but doubt my hubby does -
Would you, could you? Multiple wives and husbands.....
Elgama replied to theoriginalavatar's topic in LDS Gospel Discussion
LOL will definitly be the pa of El and Ga cept think he is still Gabelpa. Me other one is a heretic -
Just wondered is questioning another persons recommend status sustaining your Bishop;)?
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Would you, could you? Multiple wives and husbands.....
Elgama replied to theoriginalavatar's topic in LDS Gospel Discussion
wonder if my husband will respond to this lol...................... -
Would you, could you? Multiple wives and husbands.....
Elgama replied to theoriginalavatar's topic in LDS Gospel Discussion
I don't know to be honest part of me likes having hubby all to myself but part of me recognises how much more practical it would be in bringing up children etc, right now I don't get sick days, and the company of another wife would actually be nice, think also would make huge difference in terms of childcare etc But I couldn't do it like they used to a wife in every home for me it would have to be one family. I already have a second husband we are going on a date tonight lol just kidding my best friend from before I was married is gay and I keep getting him and my husband mixed up names wise, so he became my 'other' husband early on in our marriage, my hubby has another wife as well he was dating her and snuck in whilst she was on her mission. Now second husbands with the current economic situation would also be useful, would allow Mum to stay at home and still have 2 incomes. Again I don't see the benefit of the one in every home idea -
I don't know if they didn't do their best to listen or I would have handled things differently to her parents or done a better job. What I do know is she feels unjustly dealt with and not listened too - therefore communication has broken down, some of that will be in her listening ability I am sure, but as many have pointed out she is the child, her parents are responsible for her not the other way round. Personally i feel the idea of removing the plug would have been better (thanks for that suggestion lol) and I think personally I would have felt uncomfortable removing it - its like my Mum reading my journals, she's not a bad parent she wanted to know something, but I felt invaded, humiliated, powerless, and bet thats how Lizzy feels about an item she worked/saved hard for - which is why she is probably digging her heels in about the dishes and now behaving like a toddler, personally I'd have done something like refused to cook/prepare meals for her until she had done her own and my dish duty turn, that way she still has some power over the situation. My view on the thread literally changed last night, reading Knights post and listening to my husband being a good parent but the situation he was in could have been handled better, not sure i would have handled it any better, but few years back I was struck by how many of children of the prophets described how their parents did things with expectation, and a friend then gave me the How to Talk so Kids Will Listen, How to Listen so Kids Will Talk book, husband and I have been working through it, we weren't bad parents before, but now I do pay more attention to what I say and how, and realised how much we programme our children, and how careful I need to be. Last night was a back pedal lol I do think Lizzy should deal with it with good grace but also think Knight is right, her parents listened to her with the best of their ability, but we do know she feels ignored and rejected. Like my daughter last night went to bed feeling unjustly dealt with, a bit of patience, her parent being a bit less tired, she would have gone to bed knowing her actions were wrong but that her parents love her and respect her. After all in families repsect should go both ways. However I am also British and a 15 year old here is older than American's seem to be, I don't know anyone in my area or growing up that would have wondered how to discipline a 19 year old, maybe winge and work out house rules, but wouldn't be taking away things etc, have seen American posts on the subjects - by 15 we are making decisions that affect our adult life profoundly, which subjects we study etc
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Actually Knight kind of agree with you, I have been thinking about this thread tonight as a result of an interaction with my 6 year old, had her parents listened they may have picked up the value placed on the item, not saying her parents are evil, or wrong or that she was right, but ultimately they are the adults in the situation and its upto us as parents to pay attention and act like adults towards our children. I bought a book how to Talk so Kids Will Listen, How to Listen so Kids Will Talk and I didn't realise until we skated backwards tonight lol how far forward the advice in the book had taken us, tonight we were like a bunch of kids squabbling again. I am often impressed when we hear children of General Authorities talk, often they say they behaved because that was what was shown and expected.
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Hi I'm Kerry Shirts and Here to Bore You LOL!
Elgama replied to KerryShirts's topic in Introduce Yourself
I used to enjoy your website many years ago - nice to meet you in person so to speak -Charley -
Hi we are in the UK where are you right now?
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31 Condemn me not because of mine aimperfection, neither my father, because of his imperfection, neither them who have written before him; but rather give thanks unto God that he hath made manifest unto you our imperfections, that ye may learn to be more wise than we have been. Mormon 9:31 comes to mind the respsonsibility is also on the listener to take it as intended
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Everybody is at a different stage in their understanding of the Temple Recommend interview questions, if for you doing your home teaching is part of sustaining your local leaders and you don't do it say no, if a Bishop gets a prompting that you can't have a recommend because you are ready to gain that understanding fair enough I just know when I started answering those questions at 16 the understanding of them is completely different at 33. I have had BP unjustly refuse me a recommend however as I see it on his head be it, I know I am worthy and so does the Lord and ultimately that is the most important question on the interview. Are You Worthy to go, my standards of worthiness for myself are far higher than when I first answered that question. And daresay they will be higher again in another 15 years. To you that is clearly a question you need to answer - to someone else it may not be yet, also you never truly know why someone is not managing things, maybe he suffers from depression or exhaustion, he may secretly be doing service projects
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to be honest thats exactly how I would read it - something produced for Larry King rather than General Conference. ERight now polygamy is out
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Joseph, Brigham, President Taylor, President . . .
Elgama replied to Elphaba's topic in LDS Gospel Discussion
I think possibly a social change not sure how it was in the US but both Joseph Smith and Brigham Young are pre the Victorian Era, Joseph Smith was born 1805 and Brigham Young 1801, things became more formal in society here during that time also by the time we get to John Taylor (for me its Wilford Woodruff who I first think of as President Woodruff) - the church was bigger not everyone knew the prophet personally, and they were established in one spot. However find I tend to refer to the current prophet as President Monson - then previous ones by their names. Even Gordon B Hinckley Joseph Smith I do tend to think of as Brother Joseph and thats something I would love to see return to the church, one of my Wards I lived in used Sister Charlotte instead of my surname, I much prefer being Sister Charlotte to Sister Smith, it feels more Sisterly Sorry know this is a ramble but know what I am trying to say -
Norway is a little remote but not quite a dessert island lol:p
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Also remember its your wife's calling she may have been prompted to share it in her lesson because sharing it could have an uplifting and edifying effect on someone in her class. I think as long as she is presenting it as maybe the Lord having a sense of humour calling her to the position as now she can't skip it lol or how she overcame it herself not seeing the problem in it. Its nice to have people who have no problem sharing they are not perfect, but perfectly human. Was it a couple of conferences ago President Monson shared how he was the worst behaved child in a primary class? I know it gave me a lot of hope for my kids lol
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I have a different perspective I grew up in a family like Mahone - My Gran lived in the same town and so did her sisters I saw all my Great Aunts and Uncles and cousins on a regular basis and my Gran many days of the week, I grew up surrounded by my family history and I can tell stories and recognise all those people in he sepia photos - my husband can just about recognise one of his Grandmothers. Because of that I feel like I know ancestors that were born in the 1830s. However older generation died off, divorce devestated what was once a strong family and I hate the fact my kids don't have that
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Mormons believe in doing what is best for their children most go to school but a fair number of Latter Day Saints also Home Educate. I Home Educate my children as its what is best for them to be honest them proselytizing was the last thing on my mind, I believe they will receive a better home life and better education as a result. We are given stewardship over our children and we are also given gut instinct which comes from Heavenly Father as how best to raise em
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Its actually fairly easy or at least in my experience had freaky one yesterday with my camera and my husband;s camera turning themselves on and off (my husband's camera didn't even have a battery in it), and my top boxes for my wardrobe kept trying to shut on me. In the end feeling freaked out asked for it to leave in the name of Jesus Christ Amen. Everything stopped. The Lord's name spoken with strength removes any evil. Think of when Joseph Smith was praying he just cried out to the Lord through the darkness and the darkness was replaced by light - the one thing and beauty of being a Latter Day Saint and why I know the priesthood is true and living is for us anything like this is accomplished merely by praying. Even the home blessing is simple no bells and whistles and accomplishes everything quietly and with reverence and no fuss
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You should have done your chores, personally I'd have removed it as part of the payment for treating me like a hotel and not sharing in the dishes. My family have finally got the message as Mum has refused to do dishes for 3 days kitchen stinks and no dishes to use.
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I am not as a female in that position lol BUTI know a man who was twice a District President, once a Stake President, served several times on Bishophrics amongst other church callings, who would have blessed an animal if asked - they didn't need to be for sustenance or labour although given his background could have been - his son blessed our dog after talking to him;) interestingly after he did that dog asked for a blessing on one occasion. At least one Branch President of 15 years service that went out at 2am to bless a dying cat, and one that blessed his washing machine (not sure he would recommend it lol he was terrified of his wife's reaction when she came back and found he had broken it - however blessing worked)
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did you offer her a blessing? or get one yourself or both?