Fiannan Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 (edited) Raging Against Self Defense: A Psychiatrist Examines The Anti-Gun Mentality, By Sarah Thompson, M.D.This is an excellent article originally printed at Jews For The Preservation of Firearms Ownership, Inc. .It explains what defense mechanisms are involved when a person wants to ban guns. Very good analysis. Edited October 29, 2008 by Fiannan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulsearcher Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 I see a strong difference between gun control and outlawing guns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemidakota Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 Great article.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiannan Posted October 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 Great article.... Pass it on!:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeuroTypical Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 What he was really saying wasThe reality is obvious, but the wronged wife is so threatened by her husband's infidelity that she is unable to accept it, and so denies its existence. Anti-gun people do the same thing.In the case of anti-gun people, reaction formation keeps any knowledge of their hatred for their fellow humans out of consciousness, while allowing them to feel superior to "violent gun owners".Also, it's important to remember that not all anti-gun beliefs are the result of defense mechanisms. Some people suffer from gun phobiaEither anti-gun people harbor more rage than others, or they're less able to cope with it appropriately.So let me get this straight: The only reason someone would be anti-gun is because they have some sort of psycological problem, which the evil anti-gun agenda overlords exploit to further their cause?If that's what it is saying, I have to say I don't really think it's a great article. More like a huge steaming pile of uncharitable, invalid, inflamitory crap.From where I'm standing, a segment of most any demographic, be they pro or anti gun, may exhibit these defense mechanisms, and other segments don't. This article needs quite a bit less categorical statements if it wants me to be impressed.If I saw myself as a part of the anti-gun crowd, I'd be insulted at this stupid article. Actually, now that I think about it, I'm insulted because it was produced by someone in my pro-gun camp. LM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiannan Posted October 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 Loudmouth_Mormon, psychology generally teaches us that there are underlying motives for extreme behavior. For instance, reaction formation totally explains why when you question a peace activist they often get violent in words or deeds. There are underlying emotional motives that are far removed from rational thought. Our entire economic structure of consumption and commercialism is based on this and it originates in theory from Edward Bernays who is basically the father of public relations and marketing. Look up his book called Propaganda online and you will find what he was talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeuroTypical Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 psychology generally teaches us that there are underlying motives for extreme behaviorTrue. But anti-gun opinions aren't "extreme behaviors". That's sort of the basis of my strong reaction. The author is basically saying "anyone who is anti-gun has something wrong with them", and that just ain't true.For instance, reaction formation totally explains why when you question a peace activist they often get violent in words or deeds.Very possibly true. But the article isn't using words like "often". It's full of peanut-buttered categorical statements that just plain don't belong.LM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiannan Posted October 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 Gun control advocates either don't trust you with a gun or don't trust themselves. I think it's the later with projection involved towards others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countrygirl66 Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 I grew up around guns and am scared of them and hate them. But I don't want anybody to tell me I can't have one if I choose. I think the anti gun is just that telling me I am not responsible to know what is best for me. By the way I am for strict background checks and safety. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moksha Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 Those gun controllers must be wusses, caring about all the accidental shootings. What are they, some sort of namby-pamby non-freudian bleeding hearts or something? Why do they want to pull our fingers off the detonator buttons or take away our howitzers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigitalShadow Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 (edited) I wonder if anyone has ever investigated the psychology of people who compensate for deep insecurities by trying to prove that anyone who disagrees with them is somehow irrational. Edit: Every viewpoint a person has is a complex combination of many factors; some people may be in fact for gun control for the reasons in the article, but to project that particular case on all people who have a similar opinion is rediculous. Yes, much of our behavior is influenced by complex emotional factors, but those factors are different from person to person and you can not extrapolate all that from a person's stance on one particular issue. Edited October 29, 2008 by DigitalShadow Tried to add something besides sarcasm to the discussion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kona0197 Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 Good luck taking my guns. It's bad enough the goverment tries and tries to take away my right to have them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elphaba Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 It explains what defense mechanisms are involved when a person wants to ban guns. Very good analysis.I wonder, what psychologic mechanisms motivate a person to post trite essays belittling people who don't like guns. Since you are so enamored of Freud, I'm sure you realize guns are phallic symbols. Yes?Elphaba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a-train Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Please, don't go ruining things with talk of phallic symbols. The Little Mermaid movie has been forever ruined for me because of mention of the genitalia in the golden castle.The next piece of change I get will purchase a .30-06.-a-train Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deseretgov Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 I own a Springfield .45 XD and I bought a little .38 for my wife to use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kona0197 Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 I'll b e getting a .40 cal handgun here pretty soon. Probably a Glock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiannan Posted October 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 I'll b e getting a .40 cal handgun here pretty soon. Probably a Glock. Buy your guns quick. Depending on the election next week your window of opportunity might close in the near future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemidakota Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 I don't believe that is so. NHR is a powerful lobby. Instead of Glock, how about a Desert Eagle 50.:) A real man's gun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemidakota Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Phallic symbol...that one had me laughiing this morning. Ugh no! Not even close to why we defend our nation, our land, and our family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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