Are we all meant to be LDS

[jolee65]

What are your feelings on the subject.

Are we all supposed to be at the same level of understnding or is there going to be followers of the Lord at a lesser understanding.

I have had friends tell me we werent ment to know all of that, No he wasnt ment to know all of that at this time .

[RickJ]

hmmmm... it makes me think of the 9th article of faith, in particular the last few words:

"...we believe that He will yet reveal many great and important things pertaining to the Kingdom of God."

No, we don't know all the truth at this time and I think once the millennium is brought forth and final judgment takes place we will not be LDS anymore. We will all be members of the Kingdom of God and the need for a defined religion will be gone as there will be only one. We having many truths that have been revealed to us but there are many many more yet to come.

My wife and I also tend to look on our Church as the most correct church on Earth (I know, some people will look down their noses at that). All others have some degree of truth in them but we have the restored truth with us. Members of other religions will eventually be converted to the Kingdom of God - not the LDS church per se.

Edited December 12, 2008 by RickJ

[applepansy]

You are posing more than one question.

Yes, We are all meant to be LDS, but that doesn't mean we all will be. I can't wait for the mellenium. The gospel will be taught freely and everyone will have their choice to join or not, without Satan's lies.

We learn line upon line and precept on precept. Unless you understand the first line/precept, its impossible to truly understand the 9th line/precept. The gospel is something that we build on as we learn and grow. So when someone says "we weren't meant to know" something that is what they are usually referring to. This concept applies to individuals as well as the church as a group. I believe this is why personal revelation and revelation from our prophet is so important.

I am very grateful to a Heavenly Father who still speaks to His children today.

applepansy

[BenRaines]

No we are not all meant to be LDS. The early saints of the Church of Christ were then day saints. Those who were baptized by John the Baptist were not Latter Day Saints.

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is the current organization of Christ's church here upon the earth. I believe that when Christ returns we will not longer be members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. We will be followers of Christ.

As for knowledge and understanding we will be at different levels of understand as there are people. I don't believe that anyone will have the same understanding of all things.

I would like to see people have the same understanding of just the basic things. Just the four principles and ordinances of the gospel would be a good start.

Ben Raines

[Guest ceeboo]

Just the four principles and ordinances of the gospel would be a good start.

Ben Raines

Good morning Mr. Ben :)

What are the 4 ??

Thanks in advance for the answer.

Peace

Ceeboo

[jolee65]

yes, I do believe we will all be during the second coming followers of Christ and not referred to as LDS , but the Book of Mormon will be known to all and that will be a great day , I even have to keep my thoughts constrained from thinking 'I told you so" because thats not Christ like.

[skylercollins]

Good morning Mr. Ben :)

What are the 4 ??

Thanks in advance for the answer.

Peace

Ceeboo

Faith in Christ

Repentance

Baptism

Gift of the Holy Ghost

[skylercollins]

yes, I do believe we will all be during the second coming followers of Christ and not referred to as LDS , but the Book of Mormon will be known to all and that will be a great day , I even have to keep my thoughts constrained from thinking 'I told you so" because thats not Christ like.

Something tells me that Christ's message when he comes again will be darn close to "I told you so" .

[Hemidakota]

What are your feelings on the subject.

Are we all supposed to be at the same level of understnding or is there going to be followers of the Lord at a lesser understanding.

I have had friends tell me we werent ment to know all of that, No he wasnt ment to know all of that at this time .

No....we are all meant to be Celestial beings or walking in the same shoes the Savior latches.

[lilered]

What are your feelings on the subject.

Are we all supposed to be at the same level of understnding or is there going to be followers of the Lord at a lesser understanding.

I have had friends tell me we werent ment to know all of that, No he wasnt ment to know all of that at this time .

As Christians and followers of Christ we are all on a journey towards perfection. Therefore, we are all at different locations on our journey towards that goal. It is a process for all of us of learning line upon line, precept upon precept given here a little, there a little and then being obediant. As we become more like Christ, still another precept is given, etc.

Further to make a point: Let's review the First Article of Faith. “We believe all that God has revealed, all that He does now reveal, and we believe that He will yet reveal many great and important things pertaining to the Kingdom of God” (A of F 1:9).

As he continues to reveal this things, some will understand, others will not, and still others will hear but not believe.

[HiJolly]

I think it's logically absurd to think that everyone should be LDS.

I agree with Ben and Hemi. I think the LDS (Mormon) church can help almost anyone to learn more truths than they could otherwise -- but that's not everyone, for a myriad of reasons.

HiJolly

[skylercollins]

I think it's logically absurd to think that everyone should be LDS.

Isn't that like saying "it's logically absurd to think that everyone should eat healthy"?

[jolee65]

Something tells me that Christ's message when he comes again will be darn close to "I told you so" .

LOL,.............well then I wont feel so bad.......

[bytor2112]

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is the Lord’s kingdom once again established on the earth, preparatory to the second coming of the Messiah.

Every one will kneel and confess that Jesus is the Christ.....whether in this life or the next and the work will continue.

[jolee65]

Amen.

[pam]

Good morning Mr. Ben :)

What are the 4 ??

Thanks in advance for the answer.

Peace

Ceeboo

Ceeboo here is our complete statement on the 4 principles of the gospel.

We believe that the first principles and ordinances of the Gospel are: first, Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; second, Repentance; third, Baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; fourth, Laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost.

[applepansy]

I need to clarify. . . Yes we'll all be LDS in the sense that the restored gospel is the the only true gospel of Jesus Christ and if we accept the gospel and Christ as our savior then we are all believing the same things.

However, we wll have our agency . . .not everyone will choose to follow Christ, even during the mellenium.

applepansy

[Wingnut]

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is the Lord’s kingdom once again established on the earth, preparatory to the second coming of the Messiah.

Every one will kneel and confess that Jesus is the Christ.....whether in this life or the next and the work will continue.

I need to clarify. . . Yes we'll all be LDS in the sense that the restored gospel is the the only true gospel of Jesus Christ and if we accept the gospel and Christ as our savior then we are all believing the same things.

However, we wll have our agency . . .not everyone will choose to follow Christ, even during the mellenium.

applepansy

I think it's generally accepted among Christians (or perhaps this is just LDS?) that when Christ returns again, the wicked will die and the righteous will live with Him (something like that). I'm going on that premise.

I fully believe that there will be plenty of LDS people who do not qualify as "the righteous," just as I believe that there will be many who are not LDS who do not qualify as "the wicked." Do I believe that eventually everyone will be converted to the LDS faith? Yes, but it may take the better part of the Millennium.

[Misshalfway]

I think you are hitting the nail on the head, apple. I really think at the end of the day it is ALL about agency, not simply what church you belonged to. One can follow Christ without a clear knowledge of him as they live the principles of happiness and truth. Some athiests my follow Christ and "know" Him through their choices and offerings to humanity.

It really isn't so much about the LDS church when it comes to exhaltation. What it is about is the "Church of the Firstborn" or those who really "get it" when it comes to the HOW we chose to live our lives in our varied circumstances and if we recognized and embraced truth when and if it came to us. The ordinances will all be taken care of.

[RickJ]

At the 2nd Coming of Christ all the righteous will be caught up to meet him.

My sweet heart and I have read a number of books written by Church General Authorities on the subject and these are a few of the things we have found in our studies:

* ANYONE that can abide a Terrestrial existence (LDS or not) will survive the 2nd coming and live through the millennium. My mother is a devout Catholic and has lived her entire life in accordance with her understanding of her religion - why should she be denied the chance to see him come again or live a millennial existence.

* All religions will exist during the millennium, but as it draws closer to and end then all people will be converted to the Church of the First Born. I think that many many people will be surprised to see the Saviour enter our chapels and temples but I think many LDS members will be even more surprised to see him enter many other religions buildings to minister to them as well.

* During the millennium all people of the earth will have the opportunity to hear the message and bend their knee and confess that Jesus is The Christ.

* At the end of the Millennium, when Satan is loosed again, there will be many of us who will again side with him in the final struggle even after living a 1000 years in the living presence of the Saviour.

If you can try to get a book called "Behold I Come Quickly" and ... another book whose names escapes me right now, and I can't find it in our library. I'll find it and post it here.

[Hemidakota]

I don't know I would use the term "to be caught up", when the telestial world is finished, they will be the only ones left behind after all of those who can not abide by the Terrestrial Laws are removed.

[RickJ]

1st Thessalonians 4:16-17 uses the exact term "shall be caught up" when talking about all those that will be alive and remain on the planet at the time that the Saviour returns.

[jadams_4040]

What are your feelings on the subject.

Are we all supposed to be at the same level of understnding or is there going to be followers of the Lord at a lesser understanding.

I have had friends tell me we werent ment to know all of that, No he wasnt ment to know all of that at this time .

It isnt the "L.D.S church as it may; but the gospel ordinances with the true priesthood. And his church will bear his name.:) So depending on how one looks at your question as to wheather or not we should all be morman or not; I;E.. we need the preisthood to perform ordinances, and the only place we have that true authority is in this church, along with the Holy temple. In the hearafter spirit world everyone needs to be authortively baptized, that is a commandment to enter into the kingdom of God. So yes we will all need to have the Holy preisthood to baptise,ordain,seal.

[Wingnut]

* All religions will exist during the millennium, but as it draws closer to and end then all people will be converted to the Church of the First Born. I think that many many people will be surprised to see the Saviour enter our chapels and temples but I think many LDS members will be even more surprised to see him enter many other religions buildings to minister to them as well.

I had a Sunday School teacher once who told us that when he was on his mission, a lot of times they got people to come to church with them by agreeing to go to their church (I'll visit yours if you visit mine). He often contributed when the collection plate was passed around (even though he was already a full-tithe payer back home). He said that his logic was "I figure we're going to need their church buildings in the Millennium, so I might as well help with the upkeep now."

He was quite a character.

* At the end of the Millennium, when Satan is loosed again, there will be many of us who will again side with him in the final struggle even after living a 1000 years in the living presence of the Saviour.

Sad, but I think this is probably quite true.

[RickJ]

Wingnut - I love the sound of your Sunday School Teacher, he has the same sense of humour as I do. He didn't come from Australia by any chance :-)