endowed member, premarital sex

[her-username]

My brother recently went through the temple and took out his endowments. However tonight he told me that a few days ago, he had sex with his girlfriend (who is also LDS). He asked me what was going to happen to him, like if he would get disfellowshipped or excommunicated.

Does anybody have any information about this? We are very worried about him.

Thanks!!

[Palerider]

My brother recently went through the temple and took out his endowments. However tonight he told me that a few days ago, he had sex with his girlfriend (who is also LDS). He asked me what was going to happen to him, like if he would get disfellowshipped or excommunicated.

Does anybody have any information about this? We are very worried about him.

Thanks!!

that will be up to his Bishop what happens to him....since he confessed to you...now he needs to humble himself and seek out his Bishop.

[skippy740]

Part of the consideration would be the ongoing relationship with the girlfriend.

[Gwen]

i would imagine, though i've never been a bishop and don't know for sure lol, that what the consequences are would be partly based on was this a first time or did he go to the temple having lied.

on another note, i understand being worried about your brother but why are you worried... are you worried about the life choices he's making or are you more worried about him having some kind of disciplinary action? keep in mind that the action taken is for his benefit, even if it's excommunication.

[Hemidakota]

My brother recently went through the temple and took out his endowments. However tonight he told me that a few days ago, he had sex with his girlfriend (who is also LDS). He asked me what was going to happen to him, like if he would get disfellowshipped or excommunicated.

Does anybody have any information about this? We are very worried about him.

Thanks!!

Beside what is already given, not all are dis-fellowship or even excommunicated based on this type of sin. This is left in the hands of the Savior Himself to make the decision on what to do and is given to the authoritative priesthood leaders to pass this judgment to him.

His own initial admission of parting this sin with the Savior and then to the priesthood leadership, Stake Presidency, must be done in great sorrow and humility. His fate is not with men of the church but with the Savior.

There is always hope for the Savior to forgive him and remove the stain of sin. It is now up to him...

Edited August 12, 2009 by Hemidakota

[bytebear]

I think at the very least, they will have to wait a year if they decide on a temple wedding. He will probably have to abstain from temple worship for a while, and probably from the sacrament as well. I agree that since they are both LDS they might want to both talk to the bishop about it either together or separately depending n the level of their relationship.

[lilered]

It does seem to me that your brother may not have fully understand the committments and covenants he agreed to in the Temple and the repentance process may help in that regard.

[aspenmgy]

...I have to say it.

RECEIVED the endowment. "Take out" is for food.

Sorry.

:)

[ladykemma2]

happened in my ward. the bishop just had them get married that week (he gave them til friday to get married) and they went to the temple to get sealed a year later.

[hordak]

Depends on the leadership. I know a priest who was excommunicated for living with his girlfriend a few months before they got married.

I have also seen a life long temple married elder get disfellowshipped for having an affair.

Which given the 2 situations, i would say the adultery was worse.

Of course in the first her father was the bishop and hated the fact his daughter was with said priest so he had an axe to grind. It backfired and instead of leaving the guy his daughter left the church instead.

Point is there is no mandatory or minimum punishments for x sin (that i know of or have seen)and it will depend on the "judge"

[Guest missingsomething]

...I have to say it.

RECEIVED the endowment. "Take out" is for food.

Sorry.

:)

Ok since it doesnt have a laugh...

[Carl62]

Depends on the leadership. I know a priest who was excommunicated for living with his girlfriend a few months before they got married.

Of course...her father was the bishop and hated the fact his daughter was with said priest so he had an axe to grind.

So if this is the kind of biased judgement that we're recieving from our leaders in our repentance process, then how can we say that this is truly inspired by God, since God wouldn't judge in such a way?

[lilered]

So if this is the kind of biased judgement that we're recieving from our leaders in our repentance process, then how can we say that this is truly inspired by God, since God wouldn't judge in such a way?

First, we do not know all the particuliars in this case, nor do we have the benefit of the logic behind the Bishops decision.

Second, it seems to me to be a bit unfair to paint all of the churchs leaders with such a broad brush, using this one case as the example. This may be the exception.

[Carl62]

Second, it seems to me to be a bit unfair to paint all of the churchs leaders with such a broad brush, using this one case as the example. This may be the exception.

I did not mean to imply that all church leaders have this kind of biasy in their decision making, but when I'm putting my entire repentance process for that moment in the hands of a mortal human being who says he has prayed over this, then I would expect it to be no less than a perfect judgement and not a judgement merely based on whether or not a bishop was having a bad day that day. While I agree, this may be more of the exception, I would like to know that, if and when the day would come that I would need to repent of something of a somewhat serious nature, that I would not be the #2 on some bishops bad day list. Even one 'oops' is one too many when it comes from people who are pronouncing judgements on others in connection with the Savior's church. I guess I just take it a liitle more seriously than others.

[Just_A_Guy]

I think we tend to get a skewed idea about Church discipline. People who go through it and are satisfied with it don't generally write internet posts about what a great experience they have; and certain Mormon "intellectuals" aren't interested in compiling those types of stories in their penny dreadfuls chronicling LDS abuses of power.

My odds of getting a fair deal through the LDS discipline process are a heckuvalot better than are my odds of getting into the Celestial Kingdom while concealing my sins. That's good enough for me.