The Biggest Secret Society of Them All

[pam]

Seeing how he has 18 laughs and 1 thanks..and some of those people former Bishops and Counselors..would they have laughed if they felt the same way?

[Guest Utahrulzz]

Pam,

Are you suggesting if a former Bishop mocks God, it's ok?

The Temple is sacred and so are the traditions and standards that go along with it. The Temple Recommend interview is not a place for light mindedness and laughter!

[talisyn]

If we cant laugh at ourselves, believe me everyone else will. Yes the temple is sacred and not good to mock but can we laugh at ourselves?

[Guest Utahrulzz]

Laughing at yourself quietly is one thing, mocking the traditions of our holy Temple is quite another!

[Grandmakabipbip]

Joseph Smith was a conspiracy theorist. shame on him

D&C 89: 4 Behold, verily, thus saith the Lord unto you: In consequence of evils and designs which do and will exist in the hearts of conspiring men in the last days, I have warned you, and forewarn you, by giving unto you this word of wisdom by revelation—

Hey Pam and Snow... and all you can start stoning Joseph Smith's validity any time now...

[pam]

How does that make Joseph Smith a conspiracy theorist. If I'm reading it correctly it says..thus saith the Lord unto you:

Are you saying God is a conspiracy theorist?

[pam]

Pam,

Are you suggesting if a former Bishop mocks God, it's ok?

The Temple is sacred and so are the traditions and standards that go along with it. The Temple Recommend interview is not a place for light mindedness and laughter!

Oh please. Don't twist my words.

[Guest Utahrulzz]

I'm not twisting your words, I'm asking what your belief is. You seem to think it's ok to laugh at the Temple Recommend interview because someone who posts here and claims to be a Bishop laughed along with it. I'm here to tell you Sister, it's not alright. We made promises in the Temple and we should live up to those. AVOID LOUD LAUGHTER!!!

Thank You.

[pam]

So 18 people are wrong and you are right. And your opinion is the correct one to where you want to correct me. Thank you so much for enlightening me.

[lilered]

Definition of Conspiracy Theorists:

1. Initiated on the basis of limited, partial or circumstantial evidence;

Conceived in reaction to media reports and images, as opposed to, for example, thorough knowledge of the relevant forensic evidence.

2. Addresses an event or process that has broad historical or emotional impact;

Seeks to interpret a phenomenon which has near-universal interest and emotional significance, a story that may thus be of some compelling interest to a wide audience.

3. Reduces morally complex social phenomena to simple, immoral actions;

Impersonal, institutional processes, especially errors and oversights, interpreted as malign, consciously intended and designed by immoral individuals.

4. Personifies complex social phenomena as powerful individual conspirators;

Related to (3) but distinct from it, deduces the existence of powerful individual conspirators from the 'impossibility' that a chain of events lacked direction by a person.

5. Allots superhuman talents or resources to conspirators;

May require conspirators to possess unique discipline, unrepentant resolve, advanced or unknown technology, uncommon psychological insight, historical foresight, unlimited resources, etc.

6. Key steps in argument rely on inductive, not deductive reasoning;

Inductive steps are mistaken to bear as much confidence as deductive ones.

Appeals to 'common sense';

Common sense steps substitute for the more robust, academically respectable methodologies available for investigating sociological and scientific phenomena.

7. Exhibits well-established logical and methodological fallacies;

Formal and informal logical fallacies are readily identifiable among the key steps of the argument.

8. Is produced and circulated by 'outsiders', often anonymous, and generally lacking peer review;

Story originates with a person who lacks any insider contact or knowledge, and enjoys popularity among persons who lack critical (especially technical) knowledge.

9. Is upheld by persons with demonstrably false conceptions of relevant science;

At least some of the story's believers believe it on the basis of a mistaken grasp of elementary scientific facts.

10. Enjoys zero credibility in expert communities;

Academics and professionals tend to ignore the story, treating it as too frivolous to invest their time and risk their personal authority in disproving.

11. Rebuttals provided by experts are ignored or accommodated through elaborate new twists in the narrative;

When experts do respond to the story with critical new evidence, the conspiracy is elaborated (sometimes to a spectacular degree) to discount the new evidence, often incorporating the rebuttal as a part of the conspiracy

[MrsAri]

Regarding conspiracies in modern times...

"In God We Trust" Church Leader Emphasizes on Sept. 11 - LDS Newsroom

[Guest Utahrulzz]

So 18 people are wrong and you are right. And your opinion is the correct one to where you want to correct me. Thank you so much for enlightening me.

I'm simply pointing out the Temple Recommend interview is not something to mock. I'm sorry you find it ok to mock since 18 other people laughed about it. You're telling me since you have followed the crowd who mocks you are right. Right is right Sister, if you can't understand so be it. Tell you're Bishop how funny the Temple Recommend interview is and see if he agrees.

Thank You.

[pam]

Actually I have..when he home taught me. We were jokingly talking about how people interpret the questions when asked. The subject came up when I was discussing with him about temple interview questions.

I agree that the questions in a temple interview should be answered honestly and sincerely. But I don't think it is so rigid that during an interview there can't be a little humor as well.

[ploomf]

Palerider,

Now that the cat's out of the bag, should we tell them that Mitt was only a distraction? Now we will be able to have Pres Boyd K Packer run for president in 2012 and take over the whole place?

Heck why wait till 2012? We have our very own angry mob. Lets get pale over there, we could have him in under a week.

[Guest Utahrulzz]

Actually I have..when he home taught me. We were jokingly talking about how people interpret the questions when asked. The subject came up when I was discussing with him about temple interview questions.

I agree that the questions in a temple interview should be answered honestly and sincerely. But I don't think it is so rigid that during an interview there can't be a little humor as well.

Sister, there is a difference between "a little humor" and adding questions to an interview that was inspired and given to Bishops and Stake Presidents from the Bretheren. Those added questions found here as an attempt of humor are inappropriate.

Thank You.

Edited September 14, 2009 by Utahrulzz

[pam]

In your opinion..and quit calling me sister.

[Guest Utahrulzz]

No need to be rude Miss, I'm simply calling you by an appropriate title to show you the proper respect. I don't know you and feel uncomfortable addressing you in a different manner. Sister is a term of respect in our faith as you well know. Sorry you found it offensive.

Thank You.

[MrsAri]

I'd much rather be addressed as sister than some of the other stuffs I've been called.

[pam]

I'd much rather be addressed as sister than some of the other stuffs I've been called.

Okay now that I would have to agree with.

[MrsAri]

Okay now that I would have to agree with.

See, now that wasn't so bad, right?

[pam]

Don't get used to it. haha

[Moksha]

-Do you associate with any nutbar conspiracy theory groups?

Talk about stumbling blocks. Perhaps parsing that question will help.

[MrsAri]

Don't get used to it. haha

Well, that's not a very welcoming approach now, is it?

[ADoyle90815]

[Grandmakabipbip]

How does that make Joseph Smith a conspiracy theorist. If I'm reading it correctly it says..thus saith the Lord unto you:

Are you saying God is a conspiracy theorist?

LOL-- do you really want to ask that question? LOL

D&C 1: 38

38 What I the Lord have spoken, I have spoken, and I excuse not myself; and though the heavens and the earth pass away, my word shall not pass away, but shall all be fulfilled, whether by mine own voice or by the voice of my servants, it is the same.